Kiryu-Godzilla

[spydrmanjr]

This occurred to me just now: While researching what absolute zero was and how it worked, I came across that Kiryu Godzilla had taken a hit to his chest and lived (obstructed by water or not). Now, if you want to know how cold absolute zero is, here you go: 0° Kelvin=-237° Celsius=-459° Farenheit. At this temperature all activity stops, except for quantum. Therefore, everything would have to collapse upon itself because there would be no atoms moving to support its structure. Therefore, the AZC earns its resepective title: The Atom Smasher.

Now because of this title, wouldn't Godzilla have ceased to exist (obstructed by water or not)? I mean, not to have been turned into literal pile of ice, wouldn't Godzilla still need regeneration to live through it? If you saw the wound inflicted it was several, several several, meters deep into his flesh, and he seemingly walked away unfazed.

With this in mind, I believe Kiryu-godzilla has some frightening regereration capabilities that might put Hesei Godzilla to shame.

I'm sorry, because I remember a few months back this was discussed. I hope this isn't a repeat, and note I have only seen pictures of the final scenes and this scene in general, not the movie in its entirety. So maybe by March 23, I may or may not add to my theory.

Tear away.

[Gothmog]

<font color='#FF0000'>Kiryu Goji is one tough piece of hardware, no doubt about it.
Not just his apparent inability to get his atoms ripped, his beam also plowed through Kiryu like a Sidewinder missile through a wet paper bag.
You said that you haven`t seen the movie.
Well, the scene plays out like this:
Kiryu grabs Godzilla while charging up the AZC, flying though the city, heading for the harbour. They crash into the water and the water rises up into the air only to be frozen into a huge icicle. The icicle shatters into millions of pieces and Godzilla rises through the water, roaring(the orar does sound a bit like if he is hurt and tired). With semi-closed eyes and a gaping hole in his chest he turns around and walks down into the ocean.
He really must have some ungodly regeneration to even survive that. I heard that freeze wounds are apparently very hard to heal, as the cells around the wound have died from the cold. For Godzilla to have healed that up to a scar must`ve taken real cell regeneration.
Please correct me if I`m wrong.

[spydrmanjr]

Normally when your tissue freezes, gangreene sets in. Therefore, the tissue must be cut off because of infection and lack of blood supply. With Kiryu-Godzilla, this was completely different. He left with a slightly bleeding wound, several meters deep into his chest, and came back a year later with just some scar tissue.

With a Godzilla, or anything that has regeneration, there must be blood which gets to the damaged area to regenerate. Now, from pictures I have gathered from that final scene and other scenes in the movie, the AZC cannon plows through the object and ice expands all around. Godzilla never froze even around the wound--I think, I must see the movie--therefore, again from what I have seen and gathered, that his heat ray had hindered the effects of the AZC cannon on freezing him, but did not do so enough to stop it from destroying a part of him, literally.

If the chest wound was a direct hit, even if his beam negated the effect slightly, wouldn't--because even at a higher temperature than AZ--Godzilla's flesh be frostbitten? We can assume that it was and gangreene probably set in because of the lack of blood to the tissue. Godzilla regenerated from all that. Scary.

I wonder how well he may fare against other kaiju with regeneration like that.

[Daikaijuking]

I just bought and watched GXMG. I releized that the first time they fought Kiryu was able to ake Godzilla retreat. Well here's why I think he retreated. First of all, Kiryu is another Godzilla godzilla took a good long look at him because hey there's another one of his kind. According to what paleontologists say, dinosaurs of the same species feared one another, the carnavores i mean. So since Godzillawas a dinosaur he was probably a carnivore. They feared one uanother about food, and territory. I'm thinking thatsince Kiryu was a larger older, more powerful Godzilla the other feared him and ran off after Kiryu had attacked him.

[kent]

We know that Kiryu was an older Godzilla, but how could Godzilla have known that? Kiryu didn't roar until after it went bazerk and Godzilla had gone into the sea. Maybe since Kiryu had fired several weapons, Godzilla wasn't in the mood to take on his foe at the time. Maybe he was exhausted or something.

[Mr. Bagan]

Maybe Kiryu metalic armour just reflected to much light in Godzilla's eyes.

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[baragon2005]

Quote[/b] (kent @ Mar. 24 2004,00:15)]We know that Kiryu was an older Godzilla, but how could Godzilla have known that? Kiryu didn't roar until after it went bazerk and Godzilla had gone into the sea. Maybe since Kiryu had fired several weapons, Godzilla wasn't in the mood to take on his foe at the time. Maybe he was exhausted or something.
He could sense the bones used to make Kiryu. That's why he attacked Japan in GMMG.








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[Algren-San]

It probably had too do with the fact that Godzilla hadn't fought anything like Kiryu previously so he left in order to figure out how to beat it instead of fighting an unknown enemy.

[Algren-San]

The water is still a factor here as if AZ were to come in contact it would freeze the water instead of directly hitting Godzilla as this would make AZ no longer AZ because it would change the temperature of the weapon therefore decreasing its overall power allowing Godzilla to escape alive, however the atoms around that area had to have been destroyed because Godzilla was not able to regenerate it back only form scar tissue.

[kent]

I got another question: Since the AZC was pretty much right up against Godzilla's body, wouldn't some of the energy from the cannon backfire into Kiryu? Or/and would it have severly damaged Kiryu being that close? It should have. Kiryu lost its right arm, but I felt it should have lost part of its chest as well, like Godzilla.

[SandwormPhish]

It's a directional weapon like a beam. &nbsp;Since it obviously didn't do anything to Kiryu's chest it's pretty safe to conclude it doesn't backlash. &nbsp;As for the effect on Godzilla, it appears that the managed to take the brunt of the weapon so he just got that hole in his chest instead of doing a T-1000 impression.

[baragon2005]

Quote[/b] (kent @ Mar. 25 2004,22:52)]I got another question: Since the AZC was pretty much right up against Godzilla's body, wouldn't some of the energy from the cannon backfire into Kiryu? Or/and would it have severly damaged Kiryu being that close? It should have. Kiryu lost its right arm, but I felt it should have lost part of its chest as well, like Godzilla.
His chest was damaged. Look at the scene where he rises from the water.








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[spydrmanjr]

I'm sure of it now. Godzilla's heat ray negated some of the AZB, as his face was impared by the chest and the right arm, but it did not negate the area where it hit his chest. Once it hit his chest, Kiryu must have let go, allowing Godzilla to fire his beam once more before the cannon had actually killed him.

[Daikaijuking]

but then he fought those maser tanks and he never saw those before.

[SandwormPhish]

Quote[/b] (baragon2003 @ Mar. 26 2004,06:52)]Quote[/b] (kent @ Mar. 25 2004,22:52)]I got another question: Since the AZC was pretty much right up against Godzilla's body, wouldn't some of the energy from the cannon backfire into Kiryu? Or/and would it have severly damaged Kiryu being that close? It should have. Kiryu lost its right arm, but I felt it should have lost part of its chest as well, like Godzilla.
His chest was damaged. Look at the scene where he rises from the water.








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IIRC the damage to Kiryu's chest looked rather like burn damage.

[spydrmanjr]

Yes, it was blown off by Godzilla's beam. The two monsters fired their attacks one after another, Godzilla's only a millisecond after since if he had fired his beam an actual second later he'd be dead.

[Alien-G]

Well you must remember, Godzilla had never been in a fight with other things around his size, at least not in this movie, so this was completely different to him, so he decided to retreat.

[Cyndi]

If the chest wound was a direct hit, even if his beam negated the effect slightly, wouldn't--because even at a higher temperature than AZ--Godzilla's flesh be frostbitten? We can assume that it was and gangreene probably set in because of the lack of blood to the tissue. Godzilla regenerated from all that. Scary.

It's possible that the tissue in the wound itself died and sloughed off, thus allowing him to heal. The temperature of the AZC probably flash-froze the blood vessels so he wouldn't gush blood.

Then again this also further enforces my theory that Godzilla developed extremely thick muscles under his tough hide to protect his organs, because that wound looks like a lot of meat, but no organs or bones show at all. Don't forget that Godzilla is BUFF.

[Gorjirus]

^Or it could just be that he has thick muscles, being that huge.

[Cyndi]

Yeah. Like I said - buff. He could win a Mr. Universe contest :D

[Gorjirus]

Except Space Godzilla's pecs seems a little more impressive.

[Cyndi]

SpaceGodzilla is what happens when Godzilla goes on steroids :D

[Zardac the Great]

On the note of whether Godzilla knew Kiryu was a Godzilla, I think that this is probable, because he is a dinosaur, and would have been able to smell his father's bones inside.

Also, he bears some sort of ESP (blech) connection with Kiryu. Whenever Kiryu is turned on, Godzilla comes. Remember Tokyo SOS? As soon as they turned Kiryu on, Godzilla woke up.