G.I. Joe and Inhumanoids, the same continuity?

[Mecha74]

Yeah I know it sounds crazy but there is a reason I am suggesting this. You see in both series the character of 'Hector Romerez' and his television show '20 Questions' appears. We know that both cartoons were produced by the same company also.

Thoughts?

[Morgoth]

Interesting notion. That means the thing beneath Destro's Scottish castle might have been a fifth Inhumanoid.

The next question is: why didn't Megatron try and cut a deal with Metlar. I'm sure a magnetic monster would have been of great benefit against the autobots.

Y'see, G I Joe and Transformers are in the same continuity. Cobra Commander appears in one of the very last Transformers episodes.

[Mecha74]

^Whoa!:O I never knew that! Did old chrome dome appear in one of the last post Transformers the movie episodes or what, and was it just a cameo or did his character play an important role? I have 'The Transformers' on DVD up until the movie, but haven't picked up the post movie episodes yet.

Hmmm... Transformers/G.I. Joe/Inhumanoids? Sounds like a cool crossover idea to me. It would seem though that Metlar would run roughshod all over everyone, seeing how unless Magnakor shows up he's pretty much unstoppable. Granted I would love to see that theory tested against either Megatron's or Galvatron's arm cannons.:darklord:

*Off topic*

Incidentally, is the 'Transformers/G.I.Joe crossover comics a good read? Just curious.

[Morgoth]

It was one of the post movie episodes. Some terrorists are trying to do something with energon, as I recall, and run afoul of the Autobots. Through the episode, the terrorists get advice from a lisping guy in long coat and fedora called 'the Snake'. At the end of the episode, the Snake is watching as the defeated terrorists are rounded up and carted off to jail. He remarks that terrorists were made of stronger stuff in his day. We get a good look at him, seeing the chrome face-mask as he cackles 'Cooobraaa!'

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Another two things that put the Inhumanoids in the same universe is one I noticed while watching Part 5 of "The Evil That Lies Within". When Blackthorne Shore is brought to the Earth Corps by Senator Masterrson and General Kragg, he's transported in a Joe Tomahawk chopper. Then in the episodes Primal Passions and The Masterson Team, a new team member is introduced, Army pilot Brad Armbruster, whose patrol is taken down by Sslither right after the Master Inhumanoid is released by Blackthorne. Armbruster as a result of the crash, his body ends up riddled with jet wreckage, ,and his doctors tell him he'll never walk again. The Earth Corps help him out of this jam by providing him with a an exo-suit equiped with a jetpack which enables him to walk and fly again. Brad Armbruster, for those of you who don't know, is the real name of the G.I. Joe Sky Striker pilot, Ace. Which even further cements the two properties' connection.

[Morgoth]

It has been so long since I saw those episodes. Damn them for not putting the last 4 episodes on DVD!

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Found this sweet piece of artwork by Tim Seeley(HACK/slash, Exiles) , featuring the Undead Horror, D-COMPOSE, about to do in Earth Corps. :helpme:
Thought you guys might like.:inlove:http://coltnoble.deviantart.com/art/Inhumanoids-for-CEREAL-GEEK-101512721

Also upon further searching the Deviant Art site, a whole mess of INHUMANOIDS artwork. :darklord:http://browse.deviantart.com/?gh=&section=&q=iNHUMANOIDS

[SuperXAsh]

I'm just left wondering which time period of the continuity the Inhumanoids fit into. The main events of G.I. JOE are hinted to have occurred at some point before or during the original Pre-Movie Transformers series, depending on which continuity you follow (comic or cartoon). So where do the Inhumanoids fit into this? The human characters seemed to have some pretty advanced technology, think they might be somewhere between TF 1st Series and Post-Movie Series? Because humanity seemed to have advanced quite a bit by the time of the Transformers movie, well beyond the technological capacity of what is shown during Inhumanoids or GI JOE.

Shame they never capitalized on this concept and had a big-*** crossover between the Transformers, G.I. Joes AND the Inhumanoids.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Always looking for stuff on the Evil That Lies Within I found this rather neato fan-custom made figures of Metlar, Tendril, and D-Compose.
http://el-macho-muchacho.deviantart.com/art/Inhumanoids-Group-Shot-129650251
(http://el-macho-muchacho-deviantart.com/art/Inhumanoids-Group-Shot-129650251)

[Morgoth]

Those are simply awesome! Great find.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Two interesting finds this week on the Inhumanoids. First an interview with show's writer, Flint Dille, on his involvement with the animated series.(http://inhumanoids.deviantart.com/ )

The other. To go along with the hellacool :darklord::thumbs: Inhumanoid custom figures I found. Here's some neat-o customs of the bane of Metlar and Co. existences, the EARTH CORPS. Courtesy of the talented customizers at Bos Koes Toys.
http://www.boskoestoys.com/Globalfigurenews.html

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

And last but not least. A custom figure of the Redwoods' leader, REDLIN, by Hammer of the Gods. The same bloke who created those three sweet updates to the Inhumanoids.:thumbs:http://figurerealm.com/viewcustomfigure.php?FID=21075

[Mecha74]

Ha! Knew they were connected! Our suspicions have been confirmed.

Awesome links, thanks THE ONE AND ONLY.:cool:

[Darth Reaper]

Imagine if the denizens of Cobra-La worshipped Metlar and the gang as gods. Or, you could do the reverse and have Cobra-La's people play the part that the Mahar play in Clint's Inhumanoids redos. Say that they're responsible for the Inhumanoids and that it was actually Metlar who forced them into hiding.

And, I wish they'd do a new, more adult-oriented, INHUMANOIDS series, and create new action figures to go along with it.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

I wouldn't go there with Cobra-La. Although I'm also a big fan of the denizens of that long lost empire from G.I. JOE:THE MOVIE , Mr. Werner, is not. You'll sooner see him singing the praises of the genius of filmmaker Stephen Sommers than ever liking them.

[Morgoth]

Well, to be blunt, Cobra-la was a very poorly conceived and even worsely executed idea. Almost as bad as the way Action Force did away with the Red Shadows and made their leader into Cobra Commander.

[Cam Eleon]

Also, for anyone who cares (and I'm ashamed to admit I know this), Hector Ramirez also appeared in JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS, so pretty much every Hasbro/Sunbow cartoon was interconnected.

I'm surprised we never got more of a team up between series as well, but it probably would have been one logistical headache to pull off. About the best you could hope for these days is to pester the GI Joe Collector's Club to make a Hector or a Sabre Jet Ace as a special figure for one of their yearly conventions...

[Mecha74]

Also, for anyone who cares (and I'm ashamed to admit I know this), Hector Ramirez also appeared in JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS, so pretty much every Hasbro/Sunbow cartoon was interconnected.

I wanna know how in the Hell anyone had time to stage a concert or go to one when every 5 minutes the planet itself is getting ****ed in the @$$ by either the Decepticons, Cobra or the Inhumanoids?:laugh:

May as well just live in Japan during the Showa era of kaiju, might actually be safer by comparrisson.:laugh:

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

In my perusing the World Wide Web for imaages of the Evil That Lies Within for a post on another forum, I found this hellacool image. As the fans of this line of figures already know. It only lasted one series and a year.:angry: But there were concepts for the following year's worth of stuff. Even some packaging was made for the trade shows that year. Here's the photo for the actual card to Blackthorne Shore's ally, and resident mad geneticist, Dr. Herman Manglar, a.k.a. Nightcrawler.:skull:
http://actionfiguresca.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Cartoons&thread=130&page=2

[Morgoth]

Did you notice that Nightcrawler's file card states he's from... Springfield, MA! And the Cobra connection continues...

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Damn...dumb@$$ that I am I did not catch that one. Keen observation skills there sir.

[Morgoth]

It makes me wonder how Mangler ended up in jail. Maybe he was one of Cobra's scientists captured by the G. I. Joe team in one of their operations? Could he have been the mind behind such doomsday weapons as the MASS Device or Weather Dominator?

[Mecha74]

Are all of these characters still housed under one company/banner today?

Reason I ask is that a huge crossover comic seems allot more likely with all the crazy crossovers that are going on today in books as it is.

I'd sure as Hell buy it!

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

With both the TRANSFORMERS and G.I.JOE books both being published by IDW(http://idwpublishing.com/), I wouldn't think it would be that big a stretch for the company to get the rights,and give the Inhumanoids a second chance. Heck, I've always been pestering the boards featuring any news about the Robots In Disguise if there was any chance of bringing Metalr and company a guest shot in the books to drum up interest. I know if Hasbro would come out with an updated line of figures, I'd buy them in a heartbeat. There is a dedicated group of fans from what I've read. It seems foolish not to resurrect the line.

On the subject of Nighcrawler, at least in his human guise, Dr. Herman Mangler(a bit of a nod to the infamous Nazi Angel of Death, Josef Mengela), I never thought he was connected to COBRA in anyway. Watching my DVDs of the show it struck me that there were a few gaps in the storylines. Like between the episodes Cult of Darkness and Negative Polarities . In the Cult episode, Nightcrawler and Blackthorne Shore ,were working together to develop a serum that could cure D-Compose of his vulnerbility to sunlight. Although the Cult was broken up by Earth Corps, and the partners in crime were captured. They had tought to have succeded in developing the sunlight cure for D-Compose, and the Unliving Horror consumed it at the end of the episode. But then it seemed to skip an episode to Negative Polarity, where D-Compose crashes the trial of Blackthorne and Nightcrawler, screaming the formula was a failure. I thought there was an episode between the two until I snagged the DVD, where a sunproof D-Compose fought Earth Corps, only to find the serum that saved him from Whiteburn, was only a temp fix. Thus having him go after Shore and Manglar for the screw up.

Likewise, looking back, I figured there was a lost story featuring Dr. Herman Manglar, before his imprisionment in the Glades with Blackthorne Shore. My thoughts between the introductory mini-series, and Cypherroid, with Earth Corps having to be called in to deal with Manglar's insidious creations. It seemed that the wicked Doctor knew Sandra Shore quite well personally in the Cult episode, and Ms. Shore likewise reconized who Nightcralwer was on sight. Leaving me to guess the two, along with Earth Corps had an encounter before.

[Morgoth]

You're right. I wonder if there is a missing episode of this series.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Scroll down when you hit the following link to take a gander at two drawings of two of the Inhumanoids scheduled for the second series that never came:(, Ssslither and the Gagoyle.
http://actionfiguresca.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Cartoons&action=display&thread=277
And the a very rare shot for the prototype to the Ssslither figure from Richard Marcej's book, My Artwork & Designs At Hasbro(1983-89).
http://www.baboonbooks.com/Comics_Books/Hasbro%20Art%20Book/HAS_preview.htm
Which by the way, features a color shot of Ssslither on the cover.

[Morgoth]

Damn that Ssslither figure looks cool! And the artwork for both of them looks awesome. However, I notice he mentions three new 'big' figures? I wonder who the third big guy was going to be? I'm drawing a complete blank on any other Inhumanoid-sized characters from Season 2 (excepting the Statue of Liberty), unless maybe they were going to do the evil version of Magnacore?

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

I was thinking that a D-Composed Sandra Shore might've been the third Inhumanoid sized figure. Since ,she felt the Undead Horror's touch on two occasions in the series it would seem to be the top choice for a canidate. Although, maybe there were plans to add on beyond the Gagoyle , Sandra, or Ssslither ? Who knows ? Although the evil version of Crygen and Pyre from Negative Polarities would also make an excellent canidate(s) now that you mention it.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Review of the classic animated series courtesy of the Angry Video Game Nerd. (http://www.spike.com/video-clips/slnduh/cinemassacre-inhumanoids)

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

An interesting article involving the ties between the Sunbow/Marvel/Hasbro series of the eighties, and crossover appearances in each other's shows. (http://www.tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=584) Such as D-Compose's cameo on Jem.:confused:

Another, from the Transformers Wiki .Net (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Inhumanoids) . In which mentions that the events of the Inhumanoids show are in fact canon. (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generation_1_cartoon_continuity) And the Evil That Lies Within, also had a part in the history of the alternate reality of the TRANSFORMERS: SHATTERED GLASS (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shattered_Glass_%franchise%29) Earth. In which Metlar, and his cohorts, had terrorized the Earth before the Transformers arrival to the planet.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

The Sixth Inhumanoid. (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hojoni)

[SuperXAsh]

He wasn't REALLY an inhumanoid, was just Hasbro's nod to Godzilla... and we're never really quite sure how serious that Almanac is taken in the continuity of things.

Could be he was, technically, an inhumanoid in the "Transformers: Animated" continuity... though we never see them, never hear of them, and so forth.

In a weird oddity, apparently even in the "Shattered Glass" (Mirror Universe) Transformers continuity, the Inhumanoids are seen as villains... in a world where the roles are typically reversed.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Some interesting comic artwork samples of the INHUMANOIDS (http://www.baboonbooks.com/portfolio/Comic_Art_Images/Inhumanoids%20/inhumanoids.html). Plus a pin-up of the twisted(mentally & physically) Dr. Nightcrawler.:skull: Who in the shot ,you can see sporting a mouth(so he can scream:nervous:), and a bionic hand.

[Morgoth]

Interesting about Honji, but, yeah, I can't say that evidence is enough to support another Inhumanoid. I also hate it when the Gagoyle is lumped in with them, since it seems to be an independent monster entirely, one that none of the Inhumanoids have encountered before.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

If you check out the beginning of the episode THE EVIL EYE, where Tendril was describing via shadow puppets to Metlar about Blackthorne and Dr. Nightcralwer releasing the Gagoyle. The Tyrant of the Core seemed already quite familiar with what the two had unleashed ,and were endeavoring to put under their control. And needless to say he wasn't happy.:angry: I'm taking a shot here on guessing the Redwoods only told part of the tale of Metlar overthrowing Ssslither to the Earth Corps. And the missing part of said story involved a purge by Metlar and those loyal to him, D-Compose and Tendrill, of those Inhumanoids still loyal to Ssslither. Either killing them, like the Gagoyle's previous incarnation sometime after it layed its brood, or imprisoning them like Metlar had done with the Serpent King.

[Morgoth]

It probably slipped under everyone's radar, but Shout Factory is releasing a complete series of 'Jem'. Now, while that isn't particularly exciting, it does mean somebody over there hasn't forgotten the old Super Sunday cartoons. And with the other contenders being Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines or Robotnix, I think Inhumanoids stands a good chance of finally getting a decent release. At least I'm seriously crossing my fingers.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

I just spotted the JEM DVD set last night at my local Wall*Mart. Saw that and thought, "Soon. Just be patient. And beware of the RED DUKE."

[Kaiju_Sensai]

Well they did release Transformers Headmasters so its pretty possible.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Hey Darth, while I was quick to dismiss your Cobra-La/Inhumanoid worship theory. Upon reviewing the episode ,The Masterson Team, I might have to reevaluate that assumption. In the course of the series, Blackthorne Shore, the guy responsible for releasing Tendrill, and helping Dr. Herman Mangler become the gruesome Nightcrawler. Had ended up making enemies out of everyone. So he released the Inhumanoid, Sslither, who had at onme time ruled over the Inhumanoids and human alike. Anywho fast forward after Sslither's return to the underground. He's riding around on two very large snake-like creatures in the same manner as a chariot. When seeing those two creatures, I couldn't help but think of the creatures created by Cobra-La's hypergenetic manipulation. I could actually see Sslither being worshipped by denizens of Cobra-La, and snake chariots offered to him by his worshippers as some kind of tributes. And before Sslither, before being mentioned by name, was talked about by Blackthorne as being worshipped by some Asian cultures. Also, in the serpentine Inhumanoid's story told by the Redwoods, also made sure the Inhumanoids under him contructed monuments in Sslither's honor. The pyrmids for example.

[Kaiju_Sensai]

Not certain if I can post this but I was looking around on a public domain DVD site and they have the complete series on DVD. I just ordered Megas XLR off there myself. Its not official but they guarantee the quality is good to exellent unless otherwise noted, only 25 bucks too. Just thought I'd give a heads up.

http://www.timesforgottendvd.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=279

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Interesting new find yesterday. During a search on the World Wide web I found this.http://pics.livejournal.com/icon_uk/pic/0069q9pa

The UNIT:E book was 2011 New York Comic Con exclusive offer from Hasbro featuring many of their properties. Old and new. Some familiar. Some not so. UNIT:E from what I gathered is basically a combination of Marvel's reality hopping mutant team the EXILES, blended in with the classic toyline Micronauts. During the course of the story, elaborated on here.>(http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81662&st=40 )
In the course of the team's introduction, we also meet Synergy, an advanced version of the holgraphic generating computer behind JEM & THE HOLOGRAMS. Who proceeds to show them the greater multiverse they're a part of. We art treated to images of G.I. JOE, TRANSFORMERS, CANDY-LAND, M.A.S.K. ,and one image shows what looks quite like D-Compose and Tendrill.
http://pics.livejournal.com/icon_uk/pic/0069r5dy
And one set of characters introduced, in a pin-up drawn by the one ,and only Art Adams, in the tradition of the Inhumanoids, comes the creatures of PRIMORDIA, good or evil, no one knows yet ? http://www.oafe.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/UnitE5.jpg
Quite a fearsome crew, eh ?:sly: Also it's nice to know the classics haven't been left behind and forgotten also.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

"What's On Joe Mind !" pod cast featuring in the first half ,INHUMANOIDS writer Flint Dille. While not much is discussed about the Evil That Lies Within, theres a bit about another Hasbro/Marvel/Sunbow obscure favorite, VISIONARIES, and a bit about how the connections of the Hasbro characters evolved.
http://whatsonjoemind.podbean.com/2012/03/23/episode-47-whats-on-joe-mind/

[SuperXAsh]

I'd love to see someone tackle the Inhumanoids again, because there's some fresh material there to really do some awesome stuff in today's world. Maybe get IDW's crews on it... or Dynamite Entertainment or something. Like how they've been doing with GI Joe, Transformers, and other properties over the last few years.

The Unit:E concept looks promising though. Would be neat to see that the characters of Primordia are the new line of defense against the Inhumanoids. And if Art Adams is doing the artwork, all the better.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

I had read awhile back that there was talk of adding to the IDW line by the higher ups of the publisher into obtaining a more obscure Hasbro property to the world of the Transformers(http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9652). These characters were rumored to appear sometime after the CHAOS story-arc in the Transformer book concluded. Haven't heard anything about it since reading the entry on the IDW boards sadly. But with the two Transformer books at the moment set on Cybertron and the depths of space in ROBOTS IN DISGUISE ,and MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE respectively. I doubt the Inhumanoids will be showing up in those books considering their spacey settings.

If the story about the adding another Hasbro peoperty is still true, the most likely canidates would be BATTLE BEASTS(http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Battle_Beasts) or ROBOTIX(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotix). The former already having a history with the Transformers in the old TF:HEADMASTERS cartoon. And the residents of Planet Beast have already put in some cameo appearances in THE DREAMWAVE SUMMER SPECIAL, and G.I. JOE Vs. THE TRANSFORMERS IV:BLACK HORIZON. So they'd be more likely to show up in either of the TF books.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Also, before that UNIT:E book showed up last year, the M.A.S.K. line was already a part of the G.I. JOE franchise with the release of a Matt Trakker figure as part of the Real American Hero's 25th Anniversary Line a few years back. Which, oce you think of it makes sense, seeing the M.A.S.K. team's nemesis was an organzation called V.E.N.O.M. Check out the review here.>http://yojoe.com/reviews/wave11/matttrakker.shtml

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Found this excellent resource on the INHUMANOIDS this week. A fellow fan set up a webpage on Facebook about Hasbro unearthing the Evil That Lies Within.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hasbro-should-unearth-the-the-Inhumanoids/392320197476004
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hasbro-should-unearth-the-Inhumanoids/392320197476004#!/media/set/?set=a.392672120774145.82094.392320197476004&type=3
The second link is to a part of the page with some clear images of the file cards of the released figures. Interesting to see how some are quite different from their animated incarnations. Especially the very mellow Auger.:sly:

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Storyboard from the opening mini-series, The Evil That Lies Within, where Metlar and his posse had just finished his raid on the Kamchatka Missle Base. Art courtesy of Steve Rice.
http://occprofstudies4artists.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/inhumanoids_01.jpg

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

http://www.figurerealm.com/userimages/customs/29000/28903-1.jpg
Some custom figures of the Earth Corps by a talented gent by the name of MetalAlchemest.
http://www.figurerealm.com/viewcustomfigure.php?FID=28903

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

On the customizing side of things. Found this last night while checking around for anything new on the Evil That Lies Within.> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g77CSOi7_tk)< A cool fan-made trailer that gives us an idear what in a just universe the audience could have in store if the INHUMANOIDS hit the big screen.