Keizer Ghidorah how was he Born?

[Keizer Ghidorah]

How was the most powerful of godzilla's foes born my guess is that he was a normal ghidrah that absorbed star energies rather than planetary energy yeah it's a little wacked but it's possible:crazy: !

[EternalMothra]

KG, please try not to double post.;)

Anyway, I think Keizer Ghidorah was most likely created by the Xilians, or is a monster they found and captured like Gigan possibly.

[Keizer Ghidorah]

Do you think keizer ghidorah could be a ghidorah with keizer powers?

[Borozilla]

I would say that after being thrashed by Godzilla, Monster X tried to gain an advantage by mutating into Godzilla's greatest foe.

[biochemitra]

Well, there are several possibilities. He may have been a clone of the original King Ghidorah, whether the original KG showed up on Earth or not. He may be an Xilian modification of a regular King Ghidorah, a keizer of a different sort, deformed by the process of twisting his genome.
It's also possible that Monster X is the larval stage of any Ghidorah and Keizer Ghid is simply a genetic mutant or an "emporer" in the same manner as a rat emporer, simply being the biggest and baddest Ghidorah born.

[EternalMothra]

Well, there are several possibilities. He may have been a clone of the original King Ghidorah, whether the original KG showed up on Earth or not. He may be an Xilian modification of a regular King Ghidorah, a keizer of a different sort, deformed by the process of twisting his genome.
It's also possible that Monster X is the larval stage of any Ghidorah and Keizer Ghid is simply a genetic mutant or an "emporer" in the same manner as a rat emporer, simply being the biggest and baddest Ghidorah born.

Well, I'm sure it was a genetically enhanced version of King Ghidorah. That is if King Ghidorah is in the GFW universe, if it is linked w/ Monster Zero.

[Ultimate goji]

Prehaps he was just there and then captured and controlled like king ghidorah. Or the xillans mutated him or something like that.

[GodzillaMan]

I think Keizer Ghidorah's (user) theory could be possible. I also think he could be a King Ghidorah with keizer powers causing him to mutate. But on some fansites, it says keizers are a mix between xilien and human DNA, and I know that Keizer Ghidorah has nothing in common with humans. But perhaps Keizer Ghidorah is a fusion of King Ghidorah, Grand Ghidorah, and Desghidorah DNA. Because haven't you noticed that Keizer Ghidorah looks alot like Desghidorah mixed with King Ghidorah and Grand Ghidorah?

[Clevanator]

There was clearly a visual parallel drawn in the film between Ozaki and the Controller's preceding battle, and Godzilla's fight with Monster X.

So therefore did "Monster X" gain its Keizer energies from the Controller upon his death, in much the same way that Godzilla was amped by Ozaki's Keizer powers? The creature did transform into its final "Keizer" stage almost immediately after the Controller's demise

[SuperXAsh]

how was he born? Well the daddy Ghidorah meets up with the mommy Ghidorah and... :p

or maybe Kitamura demanded "Make me a Ghidorah that somehow looks less real than a costume used almost 40 years ago!!! STAT!!!"

ok ok... I'll be serious...

I think it's pretty obvious, by the fact that Keizer had two forms, that he was an artificial creation of some sort. Undoutedly created as the big gun to use if all else failed, (specially their big "hit Earth with a meteor" ploy) which it did... hilariously so. So they wheeled this guy out as a last measure.

Maybe Monster X was the containment form, or possibly a means to better control it. OR like it's obvious inspiration (DBZ) this was Ghidorah fighting at 1/2 strength to amuse himself or the Xiliens before Gokuzilla proved much more powerful than they had previously believed (despite the fact that he laid waste to every other monster up till then, AND stopped a frikkin' meteor for all practical purposes). Which makes them look like big arrogant dorks if that's true.

[King Caesar Salad]

And just like DBZ, it ended with "Oh noes! Gokuzilla is getting his butt kicked! We must give him our energy so he can wiiiiiiiiiin!!!"

[Zardac the Great]

Monster X is the Larval form of Ghidorans, which in the Final Wars universe, consists of exactly one half-baked Xilien's experiment.

Or because the script said so.

[GodzillaMan]

Monster X is the Larval form of Ghidorans, which in the Final Wars universe, consists of exactly one half-baked Xilien's experiment.

Or because the script said so.

If Monster X is the larval form of ALL Ghidorans, then why is Keizer Ghidorah so different from all the other Ghidorahs?

[Zardac the Great]

If Monster X is the larval form of ALL Ghidorans, then why is Keizer Ghidorah so different from all the other Ghidorahs?


And I quote:

...Ghidorans, which in the Final Wars universe, consists of exactly one half-baked Xilien's experiment.

In this universe, there apparently IS only one Ghidorah, thus what is true for one Ghidoran is true for all Ghidorans.

[GodzillaMan]

And I quote:



In this universe, there apparently IS only one Ghidorah, thus what is true for one Ghidoran is true for all Ghidorans.

So what are you saying? Keizer Ghidorah is a mutant?

[Zardac the Great]

Er... who said that?

What I was saying- as a joke, mind you- was that Monster X was the larval form of Keizer Ghidorah.

A frog is not a mutant tadpole, and neither is the tadpole a mutant. The frog is merely the adult version of the tadpole. The larva, if you will.

I was saying that Keizer Ghidorah is the grown-up version of Monster X.

[GodzillaMan]

Er... who said that?

What I was saying- as a joke, mind you- was that Monster X was the larval form of Keizer Ghidorah.

A frog is not a mutant tadpole, and neither is the tadpole a mutant. The frog is merely the adult version of the tadpole. The larva, if you will.

I was saying that Keizer Ghidorah is the grown-up version of Monster X.

I'm pretty sure I know what a tadpole is, a larva. But why did Keizer Ghidorah look so different from the other Ghidorahs if you say there is only one Ghidorah?

[Zardac the Great]

I think I understand the problem here.

Like most of the Millenium series, Final Wars stands alone. The only movie it may officially follow is G54.

For Final Wars, the Showa movies never happened. The Heisei movies never happened. The rest of the Millenium movies never happened.

In Final Wars, there has been no other Ghidorahs.

In Final Wars, the only Ghidorah that has ever existed is Keizer Ghidorah.

So, in Final Wars, there are no other Ghidorahs to compare it to.

Just as how, in GMK, there is only one Ghidorah that exists in all the universe, and it's a supernatural creature that defends Japan.

[GodzillaMan]

I think I understand the problem here.

Like most of the Millenium series, Final Wars stands alone. The only movie it may officially follow is G54.

For Final Wars, the Showa movies never happened. The Heisei movies never happened. The rest of the Millenium movies never happened.

In Final Wars, there has been no other Ghidorahs.

In Final Wars, the only Ghidorah that has ever existed is Keizer Ghidorah.

So, in Final Wars, there are no other Ghidorahs to compare it to.

Just as how, in GMK, there is only one Ghidorah that exists in all the universe, and it's a supernatural creature that defends Japan.

Dude, Keizer didn't protect Japan! He turned it to a pile of rubble in a few seconds!

[SuperXAsh]

GodzillaMan, you're totally missing the point. e_e

He's talking about all the Ghidorahs in all the different Godzilla timelines/movies.

In GMK (as in the movie "Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-out Attack" or something to that extent), Ghidorah WAS a hero, more or less. Which is in stark contrast to the other Ghidorahs over the years.

And I doubt Monster X is the "larval form" for ALL Ghidorahs. It was probably just a way for Kitamura to get Toho to sign off on a new monster if he made it the "first form" of an established character.

Because we saw the "first form" of the 90's Ghidorah, (as in the movie "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah") it was those cute little dorats that the Futurians left on that soon-to-be-nuked island.

[GodzillaMan]

GodzillaMan, you're totally missing the point. e_e

He's talking about all the Ghidorahs in all the different Godzilla timelines/movies.

In GMK (as in the movie "Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-out Attack" or something to that extent), Ghidorah WAS a hero, more or less. Which is in stark contrast to the other Ghidorahs over the years.

And I doubt Monster X is the "larval form" for ALL Ghidorahs. It was probably just a way for Kitamura to get Toho to sign off on a new monster if he made it the "first form" of an established character.

Because we saw the "first form" of the 90's Ghidorah, (as in the movie "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah") it was those cute little dorats that the Futurians left on that soon-to-be-nuked island.

Sorry, I just have a little problem understanding things sometimes. It makes me think the truth is flipped.

[SuperXAsh]

Sorry, I just have a little problem understanding things sometimes. It makes me think the truth is flipped.

perfectly fine dude, was just making sure you understood. ;)

[GodzillaMan]

perfectly fine dude, was just making sure you understood. ;)

Unfortunatly, thats happened in school. Yeah, I think that im doing the math process right, but im not. Theres then a test and then BAM, Bad grade! :cursing:

[Zardac the Great]

And I doubt Monster X is the "larval form" for ALL Ghidorahs.


Ah! All Ghidorans in the Final Wars universe. Of which there is only one specimen.:darklord:

[Marczilla]

I find all of your theories farfetched. Cyborg. Hands down. Metamorphosis would explain alot, but one heads into three would mean his shoulder heads would have brains, which would be underdeveloped and hinder X's performance. Would you believe I'm only 14?

[IceDragon2]

I think that Keizer Ghidorah was most likely a bio-engineered organic weapon that the Xilians made. It would explain a lot of things like why he has two forms (the second being stronger than the first with a different fighting style), why he was the last monster the Xilians sent against Godzilla (saving the best for last), why the Xilians were so confident that Monster X is capable of defeating Godzilla without the need to transform and also why X and Gigan work together so well (both were created by the same alien race).