The 50 Greatest Videogames of All Time?

[kritaya]

This is a list from a forthcoming book about the 50 greatest videogames ever. I agree with some, but then others just make me shake my head in disbelief. EyeToy? Guitar Hero? WTF?

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Asteroids
Bangai-O
Battlefield 1942
Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars
Call of Duty 2
Command & Conquer
Dance Dance Revolution
Dead or Alive 4
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Elite
EyeToy: Play
Final Fantasy VII
F-Zero GX
GoldenEye 007
Grand Theft Auto III
Gran Turismo 4
Guitar Hero
Half-Life
Halo: Combat Evolved
Ico
Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Jet Set Radio Future
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Lumines
Madden NFL 07
Mario Kart DS
Metal Gear Solid
OutRun
Pac-Man
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
Pong
Pro Evolution Soccer 5
Resident Evil 4
Rez
Ridge Racer
Sid Meier's Civilization II
The Sims
Soul Calibur II
Space Invaders
Street Fighter II
Super Mario 64
Super Monkey Ball
Tetris
Tomb Raider
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Virtua Tennis
Wario Ware Inc.: Minigame Mania
World of Warcraft

[Orga777]

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Asteroids
Bangai-O
Battlefield 1942


Ok. That seems normal. Never heard of Bangai-O before though.

Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars
Call of Duty 2
Command & Conquer
Dance Dance Revolution
Dead or Alive 4


Ok, DOA should not be on the list. There are more deserving games that are not even on here. Where is Kingdom Hearts?

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Elite
EyeToy: Play
Final Fantasy VII
F-Zero GX
GoldenEye 007

All fine here. Only iffy one is that Eye Toy game.

Grand Theft Auto III
Gran Turismo 4
Guitar Hero
Half-Life
Halo: Combat Evolved

Meh. All good here. Surprised Half-Life 2 isn't on here. It is a better game.

Ico
Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Jet Set Radio Future
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Lumines
Madden NFL 07


Seriously, there should NEVER be any sports games on the list.

Mario Kart DS
Metal Gear Solid
OutRun
Pac-Man
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
Pong


Wait... so you are telling me that Ruby/Sapphire made the list but Blue/Red didn't? Were these guys smoking something they shouldn't have? Eww. Pong really should be here in the list though.

Pro Evolution Soccer 5
Resident Evil 4
Rez
Ridge Racer
Sid Meier's Civilization II
The Sims
Soul Calibur II


Fine. This is decent. But a soccer game?


Space Invaders
Street Fighter II
Super Mario 64
Super Monkey Ball
Tetris
Tomb Raider
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Virtua Tennis
Wario Ware Inc.: Minigame Mania
World of Warcraft


Nothing on here really surprises me.

Anyway, I really am not too fond of this list. There are really good games missing from this list that are considered the best out there among critics and fans alike. Really, No Kingdom Hearts. No Half-Life 2. Didn't see a Metriod game in there either. Shocking to say the least. They definitly can do better then this.

[Seer235]

I shall now prove, without a doubt, that this list is wrong.

The only Legend of Zelda game is Ocarina of Time (where is Link to the Past?)
There are no NES Mario games on there.
There are no Metroid or Sonic games on there.

Therefore, this list cannot possibly contain the top 50 videogames of all time. Many of those are only on the list because they are recent games and currently popular (most readily apparent of those are Ruby/Sapphire and Madden 07). Although I like that they included the original Command and Conquer.

And Orga, they listed them in alphabetical order, not by ranking.

[rodanguirus]

Yeah, this list defintely has some problems. They seem to have completely ignored the mid-80s through mid-90s, which is simply unacceptable on a "best games of all time" list. The NES, Genesis, and Super NES aren't represented at all.

[Seer235]

They seem to have completely ignored the mid-80s through mid-90s, which is simply unacceptable on a "best games of all time" list. The NES, Genesis, and Super NES aren't represented at all.

^Which, coincidentally, happens to be the source of the greatest videogames of all time.

And for reference, here is a list of release dates and systems for those 50 games:

2005--DS
2005--DS
1979--Arcade
2001--Dreamcast
2002--CPU
1996/2002--PSX/GBA
2005--PC/X-box 360
1995--PC
1998--Arcade
2005--X-box 360
2006--X-box 360
1984--PC
2003--PS2
1997--PSX
2003--Gamecube
1997--N64
2001--PS2
2005--PS2
2005--PS2
1998--PC
2001--X-box
2001--PS2
2001--PS2
2002--X-box
1998--N64
2005--PSP
2006 (AUGUST)--X-box 360
2005--DS
1998--PSX
1986--Arcade
1979--Arcade
2003--GBA
1972--Arcade
2005--PS2
2005--Gamecube
2002--PS2/Dreamcast
1993--Arcade
1996--PC
2000--PC
2003--X-box/PS2/Gamecube
1978--Arcade
1991--lotsa systems
2001--Gamecube
1985--Everything
1996--PSX/PC
2001--Gamecube/PS2
1999--Arcade/Dreamcast
2003--GBA
2004--PC


10 games from 2005. 2 games from 2006. 18 games from 2000-04. That makes 30 games out of 50 from a 6 1/2 year period. The last 6 1/2 years.

Frankly, anything from 2003 on (and just before that is still pushing it) doesn't deserve to be on that list. Especially not games from 2005 and 2006. They just haven't proven they can last.

[Orga777]

=And Orga, they listed them in alphabetical order, not by ranking.

Doh! :blush: See what happens when you first wake up in the morning and go on the computer. Well... That makes things better then. But it still doesn't mean that some of those games even deserve to be on the list. There are a lot of games missing that should be on there that aren't.


Therefore, this list cannot possibly contain the top 50 videogames of all time. Many of those are only on the list because they are recent games and currently popular (most readily apparent of those are Ruby/Sapphire and Madden 07).

If that was the case I am even more surprised that Kingdom Hearts isn't on the list at all. That has already solidified itself as on of the most popular and critically acclaimed game series and only two games have been released. You see, this is where fans should vote for the best video games. The list would be more practical I would think.

[MirrenDono]

^ Then it just becomes a popularity contest. See IGN's latest list.


Originally posted by Orga777
Ok, DOA should not be on the list. There are more deserving games that are not even on here. Where is Kingdom Hearts?

Thankfully not on there, and I mean any of them. CoM was blah, and the PS2 iterations are just smash smash smash smash smash smash with a few RPG elements thrown in and a ridiculous mix of universes.


And F-Zero GX stunk badly and shouldn't be on the list at all.

You don't deserve to talk anymore.

[Orga777]

Thankfully not on there, and I mean any of them. CoM was blah, and the PS2 iterations are just smash smash smash smash smash smash with a few RPG elements thrown in and a ridiculous mix of universes.

Meh. That is your opinion. Chain of Memories was worse then blah. It was 'ARG! Stupid Card battle system!' which really ruined the story that was going on in there. And hey, you can say KH games are button mashers, but I have a strange feeling that there are a few button mashers on the list that are not even CLOSE to Kingdom Hearts in game play.

You don't deserve to talk anymore.

Compared to the F-Zero game from the N64 (forget the name, been a while) GX was mediocre at best.

[MirrenDono]

Originally posted by Orga777
Meh. That is your opinion. Chain of Memories was worse then blah. It was 'ARG! Stupid Card battle system!' which really ruined the story that was going on in there. And hey, you can say KH games are button mashers, but I have a strange feeling that there are a few button mashers on the list that are not even CLOSE to Kingdom Hearts in game play.

Which exactly why this list is not to be trusted ;)

DO4? Please, how about a fighter that actually has decent hit detection?


Compared to the F-Zero game from the N64 (forget the name, been a while) GX was mediocre at best.

It's X, and unless you're turned off by the insane difficulty, I can't imagine why you'd say it's mediocre. It has, arguably, the most exciting gameplay of any racer to date.

[Orga777]

Which exactly why this list is not to be trusted ;)

Agreed.:laugh: But no dissing Kingdom Hearts. Too great of a series. :p

DO4? Please, how about a fighter that actually has decent hit detection?

Surprised Mortal Kombat is not up there. Either one or two though. It kinda went backwards from there...

It's X, and unless you're turned off by the insane difficulty, I can't imagine why you'd say it's mediocre. It has, arguably, the most exciting gameplay of any racer to date.

Yea. X! That was the one. I used to play that game forever..... As for GX, I definitly don't agree. Personally the Burnout series or the Need for Speed Series (I guess Project Gotham as well) are much better racing games. But hey, GT4 is up there and that is probably the best racing game ever.

[godofPH]

Wha...what?! Ruby and Sapphire are the only Pokemon games that made the list? Well, fine, but Red/Blue, Gold/Silver/Crystal, and Fire Red/Leaf Green are much more superior to Ruby and Sapphire. Hell, even Pokemon Emerald (which was just Pokemon Crystal for the advance generation), was loads more fun than Ruby and Sapphire.

[MirrenDono]

Originally posted by Orga777
Agreed.:laugh: But no dissing Kingdom Hearts. Too great of a series. :p

Maybe when I'm in a good mood.


Surprised Mortal Kombat is not up there. Either one or two though. It kinda went backwards from there...

Well, to an extent. Sure, none of the newer MK games are up there among the ranks of games like Halo, Metroid, DMC, Metal Gear or Zelda, they're all pretty darn good.

Honestly, I can't believe they ignored Tekken, especially 3 and 5. Either that, or Virtua Fighter 4 should've made it.


Yea. X! That was the one. I used to play that game forever..... As for GX, I definitly don't agree. Personally the Burnout series or the Need for Speed Series (I guess Project Gotham as well) are much better racing games. But hey, GT4 is up there and that is probably the best racing game ever.

Any specific reason? Or is just that you're not down with futuristic racers?

[Orga777]

Maybe when I'm in a good mood.

:p

Well, to an extent. Sure, none of the newer MK games are up there among the ranks of games like Halo, Metroid, DMC, Metal Gear or Zelda, they're all pretty darn good.

True, but there aren't any Metriod games on the list. There is also an absents of Castlevainia which is also very surprising. And no Splinter Cell either which is another title that is critically acclaimed. The more I look at the list the least I like it...

Any specific reason? Or is just that you're not down with futuristic racers?

Personally I am not a huge fan of racing games in general. But some are worse then others... GX was not one of my favorites. I would take F-Zero X over GX any day. That is just me though. I thought GX was a step down from previous games.

[kritaya]

DO4? Please, how about a fighter that actually has decent hit detection?

Could you elaborate? I'll be getting a 360 for Xmas and I was looking forward to DOA4. I heard it was difficult, but never anything about bad hit detection.

[MirrenDono]

It's not bad, oh no, that's not what I was hoping to imply (though it probably seemed that way). It's one of the 360's best games thus far, and a great game all around, but it's definitely not of the "Fifty best games ever" calibur. If you have a 360 now, I'd suggest getting it.

The hit detection isn't awful, but it's a bit disappointing. Every so often you'll find that the game doesn't quite register every last hit to exact point even when you land it. It's probably due to the fact that it's one of the earliest titles and had to really work with brand new console specs. Again, nothing absolutely terrible, but it's keep it from matching other fighters like the Tekkens or Virtua Fighters.

[kritaya]

Ah, okay. I get it now. Do you do Live? I heard there was an update for DOA4 that tweaked the gameplay. I don't know if it was possible to correct anything such as you mentioned, but maybe it did. New copies of DOA4 are supposed to have that update built in.