Kiyru vs Gforce moguera

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF7F00'>Kiryu's Absolute Zero Cannon has been disabled. Kiryu has his other normal powers as seen in G X MG.


ARENA: Manitoba, Canda


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MONSTER STATS:

Mechagodzilla - 120 meters

Moguera - 120 meters


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Who will win??

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[spydrmanjr]

MOGUERA seems to have the superior firepower with the spiral grenades and chest ray along with the separation, too. Kiryu has missiles which never miss and can even attack from around buildings (GMM, same missiles, different backpack). Several beams and a maser gun in its mouth.

I'm leaning toward MOGUERA as it has the superior firepower and more of it.

[PyrasTerran]

Nah, Kiryu for me. MOGUERA doesn't have the actual hand-to-hand combat capabilities of Kiryu, which gives Kiryu the plus.

[Husnock]

Quote[/b] (PyrasTerran @ Mar. 29 2004,20:47)]Nah, Kiryu for me. MOGUERA doesn't have the actual hand-to-hand combat capabilities of Kiryu, which gives Kiryu the plus.
A good point. &nbsp;Kiryuu's also fast enough to back away if necessary and use the never-miss homing missiles to their full dangerous effect, and then draw in for more hand-to-hand after MOGERA's distoriented from the missile strikes.

[The Great MM]

Never miss homing missiles? Perhaps someone missed that scene where the jet evoided them? But anyway...what would they do. Kiryu is light weight, MOGERA is heavy weight. Plus, remember, there JUST missiles, nothing more. MOGERA has dozens of beams plus that chest beam and spiral missiles. A few good hits from those in the right spots will bring Kiryu down.

[Husnock]

Quote[/b] (Monster Master @ Mar. 29 2004,22:55)]Never miss homing missiles? Perhaps someone missed that scene where the jet evoided them?
Not quite what I meant. &nbsp;MOGERA, you see, isn't quite as fast or small as that jet. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[The Great MM]

True, but I proved they can miss http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Husnock]

Quote[/b] (Monster Master @ Mar. 29 2004,23:00)]True, but I proved they can miss http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
True, but I meant they can't miss MOGERA. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Solar_Behemoth]

Quote[/b] (Husnock @ Mar. 29 2004,22:53)]A good point. *Kiryuu's also fast enough to back away if necessary and use the never-miss homing missiles to their full dangerous effect, and then draw in for more hand-to-hand after MOGERA's distoriented from the missile strikes.
<font color='#FF7F00'>Did you forget about Moguera's trends/wheels on the soles of his feet? They allow M to move at great speeds forward or backward, so actually, Moguera has some good speed to avoid KIryu's attacks as well.



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[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF7F00'>Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Moguera's powerful hand missles (the ones that blew up SG's shoulder crystals) follow their targets just like Kiryu's?

If those hand missles are strong enough to blow SG's source of power up, a task Godzilla could not do with his beam, then Moguera has a good chance of winning.

[Husnock]

Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ Mar. 29 2004,23:52)]Quote[/b] (Husnock @ Mar. 29 2004,22:53)]A good point. *Kiryuu's also fast enough to back away if necessary and use the never-miss homing missiles to their full dangerous effect, and then draw in for more hand-to-hand after MOGERA's distoriented from the missile strikes.
Did you forget about Moguera's trends/wheels on the soles of his feet? They allow M to move at great speeds forward or backward, so actually, Moguera has some good speed to avoid KIryu's attacks as well.
That form of movement isn't really what I'd call &quot;fast&quot; or &quot;maneuverable,&quot; though...

Quote[/b] ]Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Moguera's powerful hand missles (the ones that blew up SG's shoulder crystals) follow their targets just like Kiryu's?

If those hand missles are strong enough to blow SG's source of power up, a task Godzilla could not do with his beam, then Moguera has a good chance of winning.
I'm really not sure if they could follow Kiryuu that well, they might not be quite as good at following their targets as Kiryuu's missiles. &nbsp;After all, the only times they were used, the target (SpaceGodzilla) was right in front of them, and they didn't seem to move that fast either.

However, if MOGERA lands a hit with those bad boys, the match will suddenly shift in his favor...

[PyrasTerran]

Quote[/b] ]Did you forget about Moguera's trends/wheels on the soles of his feet? They allow M to move at great speeds forward or backward, so actually, Moguera has some good speed to avoid KIryu's attacks as well.

Backward or forward. Wow. Problem is, Kiryu can walk faster than MOGUERA can roll about, and he can strafe, leap, duck, etc. etc., is simply much more maneuverable. MOGUERA, as effective as he is at shattering crystals, is slow, because he never had to be fast against sloths like SG and Goji.

Quote[/b] ]Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Moguera's powerful hand missles (the ones that blew up SG's shoulder crystals) follow their targets just like Kiryu's?

If those hand missles are strong enough to blow SG's source of power up, a task Godzilla could not do with his beam, then Moguera has a good chance of winning.

They were flying in straight lines, even while SG was moving about. I doubt they are homing, or have enough maneuverability for it. Goji couldn't hit SG's weakspots because SG kept putting up the shied, yes? MOGUERA's missiles got him when he was distracted.

[mechagodzilla3]

<font color='#FF0000'>Im not sure who would win this one. What do you guys think?
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[Black16]

Ka-Frozen!

[Ebirah]

<font color='#FF0000'>now why would the gforce want to battle their wepons against each other unless kiryu went crazy? anyway kiryu destroys moguera

[Husnock]

This has been done before. &nbsp;And Kiryuu wins.

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF7F00'>I already made this topic.

Accept the last time I disabled the Absolute Zero Cannon.

With the AZC, Moguera is dead.

[kent]

Kiryu if the AZC is used.

[Melkor]

Kiryu has the Absolute Zero cannon and mind-boggling agility for a mech, MOGUERA has fat hips. I think it's safe to say that MOGUERA isn't coming out of this one alive.



Peace,



Melkor



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[biohazard85]

Well, if M.O.G.E.R.A splits in half, they could have a chance at defeating Kiryu. Since, how could Kiryu fire the ABZ, if Land Mogera is tunneling underneath him? Or how could the ABZ hit a never stopping target, like the Star Falcon?

And if the M.O.G.E.R.A crew is smart and stays out of the way of the ABZ for at least an hour and a half, Kiryu's power level will be too low to even be able to fire the ABZ, giving M.O.G.E.R.A a fair chance.

Now, on to M.O.G.E.R.A's weapons. The Spiral Grenade Missiles are nothing to take lightly, I am sure that they would cause some sever damage to Kiryu's armor and electrical systems. The Plasma Maser Cannon, as I see it, has the same force as the Plasma Grenade, since in the only time that it did hit Godzilla, it completely floored him. Also, the Plasma Maser Cannon is a weapon that be continued fired, just imagine how Kiryu would stand up against a blast that never stops? *I am sure Kiryu could avoid these attacks with jumping or just strafing, but it can't keep that up forever and will in time be hit, by one or both.

Aside from the ABZ, Kiryu really didn't seem to have anything that seems to carry a lot of force with it. The dual maser cannons wouldn't do anything to M.O.G.E.R.A's armor, since it survived much more brutal attacks, like SpaceGodzilla's Corona Beam. The heat seeking missiles may be able to do some damage, but nothing that M.O.G.E.R.A can’t take. Other than that, all that Kiryu has is his HTH. Now, this is where it gets tricky, Kiryu could out do M.O.G.E.R.A with its HTH, but that would be a large task on its part, because it would take so much to get through M.O.G.E.R.A's armor to do any fatal damage. And if MechaGodzilla is in close range, M.O.G.E.R.A can always fight back with its screw crusher or even its massive cone hands.

I just feel that Kiryu doesn't have anything to defeat M.O.G.E.R.A with, but the ABZ, than again there are ways around that deadly weapon.