View Full Version : The reason I bash the Right: Bush as Prez-for-Life?
Kaiser Kronos
August 20th, 2007, 05:08 PM
Well, boys, time to get out the ol' Whack-a-Lunatic! Here's a google cache of a deleted article by some yahoo who thinks that Democracy is bad, and that America should hail Georgicus Caesar! The sad thing is, that Bush isn't even a *good* choice for Prez-for-Life. Why can't we get a *good* crazy President, as opposed to Bush?
Feast your eyes on the monstrosity: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cnnnSRimWmcJ:www.familysecuritymatt ers.org/index.php%3Fid%3D1208571+%22president+for+life+bus h%22+site:familysecuritymatters.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a
If you fellas want to know how I turned from die-hard Bush supporter into kneejerk liberal, the above is why.
*facepalm*
Raptor
August 20th, 2007, 06:09 PM
Thank Godzilla for term limits!
Saruman
August 20th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world?
That's easy, just give him a seek and find book, he won't know what to do and it will confuse him for years. :laugh:
Gorjirus
August 20th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Meanwhile, Chaviz actually is trying to become President for Life.
Goji Son
August 20th, 2007, 11:42 PM
Their are extremist on every side, they exaggerate, attack others and make mountains out of mole hills about such a silly things like politics and religion. Never admitting that without the other half they would have no purpose and vice versa.
So Kronos, basically you should be thanking this guy for giving you a purpose to be passionate about something.
Jet Jaguar
August 21st, 2007, 12:33 AM
Y'know, at one time they thought about extending Clinton's terms so he could have done a third
SuperXAsh
August 21st, 2007, 02:20 AM
I don't think anyone, after FDR, will ever get to have more than Two Terms. We just live in a completely different world than the one FDR reigned supreme for four terms, AND DIED, in.
A much different society, different press, and whatnot.
I just don't think anyone can really do it. FDR could barely do it, and it tooks it's toll on him. He was also mostly preoccupied with the War during his last two terms, and the media was mostly on HIS side during it all. Not to mention that Hollywood during this time wasn't dominated by the kinds of celebrities, directors, etc. we see today. Hell most of Hollywood WENT to war. Could you say that about the stars of today? George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg, and Sean Penn actually having to FIGHT for their country? :sly: That'll be the day.
So yeah... I don't think it can happen in this day and age. Neither Clinton OR Bush would be able to do it. People may talk about it, but it will most likely NEVER happen.
ALSO, even I'M disturbed by this Looney's assertion that ANY President needs to be in office for life. But I still fail to see how something crazy like this somehow speaks for every conservative on the Right. O.o
Seriously, I doubt this person even speaks for 1% of the Right. *shrugs* Oh well. :sarcasm:
Kaiser Kronos
August 21st, 2007, 07:17 AM
To Goji Son: Yes, extremist-snarking is fun. Yes, I did make a mountain out of a molehill.
To Jet Jaguar: Really? I don't remember that part of Clinton's term.
To SuperXAsh: Most stars, yes. John Wayne? No. Guess who the Right of today idolizes? :p However, I do admit that this person speaks for a small portion of the Right. But why do these buffoons even make the news?
Gorjirus
August 21st, 2007, 08:55 AM
To SuperXAsh: Most stars, yes. John Wayne? No. Guess who the Right of today idolizes? However, I do admit that this person speaks for a small portion of the Right. But why do these buffoons even make the news?
I think you over exaggerate the whole "Right loves John Wayne" thing. I'm right, and I've never even watched a John Wayne movie all the way through.
But as to why they make the news, we live in the internet age KK. Everything makes the news.
Jet Jaguar
August 21st, 2007, 09:00 AM
yeah, towards the end of Clinton's last term, it was bandied about that he could try for a third.
Obviously, it didn't happen.
Dr. Strangelove
August 21st, 2007, 09:10 AM
yeah, towards the end of Clinton's last term, it was bandied about that he could try for a third.
Obviously, it didn't happen.
But alas, the good canidates are thrown out and we elect utter garbage...
Raptor
August 21st, 2007, 12:20 PM
Let's do a little analyis, especially if the link above doesn't work for you. Be advised that you will find a lot of bias and agendas in these articles but they can be good for a laugh:
June 14 2005 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/140605presidentforlife.htm)
Cliff Schecter (http://cliffschecter.blogspot.com/2007/08/group-that-wants-bush-to-be-president.html), a week ago. It's a blog, one of those things ANYONE can have. His link to the original article doesn't work either but he made CONSPIRACY PLANET...
Commentary (http://www.earthside.com/earthside/2007/08/bush-president-.html) on this latest "hot button"
Now then: KK is saying he used to support Bush but after reading the suspect material, he no longer does. Care to explain WHY? Is it Bush's fault, that proposed amendment, the mis-named Family Security bunch or what? The title of this topic is rather misleading, just like putting the entire Right in one corral. ;)
If one wants to REALLY over-react, blame the Internet for hating Bush. :laugh:
When I flipped the query into the NEWS search for Dogpile, nothing came up but I figured as much.
Frankly, THIS (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/13938216/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news) is something about ANYONE would have a better chance of impacting than getting caught up in about the equivalent of yet ANOTHER conspiracy theory.
SuperXAsh
August 21st, 2007, 01:19 PM
KK & Gor: Yeah, and the Duke really regretted not being able to join the War and help fight for his country, supposedly it haunted him for a long time. But he was still firmly behind his country. Not to mention Hollywood was making PRO-US movies during this time. Again, something you'd NEVER see or hear from today's batch of bloated egos, and wannabe socialists.
Also: I'm getting tired of everything needing a conspiracy theory behind it. I really am. Specially some of the more infamous conspiracy theories. But... I'm not going to get into this. :sly:
Solar_Behemoth
August 22nd, 2007, 06:18 PM
"The page cannot be displayed"
So did that ridiculously long link have any significance besides the opinion of a single person confirming that Democrats and Republicans both have their share of pure idiots?
Because I already knew that.
Kaiser Kronos
August 22nd, 2007, 07:05 PM
Since the link was deleted, here is the actual article preserved word-for-word.
Exclusive: Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy
Philip Atkinson
Author: Philip Atkinson
Source: The Family Security Foundation, Inc.
Date: August 3, 2007
While democratic government is better than dictatorships and theocracies, it has its pitfalls. FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson describes some of the difficulties facing President Bush today.
Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy
By Philip Atkinson
President George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn in for a second term on January 20, 2005 after being chosen by the majority of citizens in America to be president.
Yet in 2007 he is generally despised, with many citizens of Western civilization expressing contempt for his person and his policies, sentiments which now abound on the Internet. This rage at President Bush is an inevitable result of the system of government demanded by the people, which is Democracy.
The inadequacy of Democracy, rule by the majority, is undeniable – for it demands adopting ideas because they are popular, rather than because they are wise. This means that any man chosen to act as an agent of the people is placed in an invidious position: if he commits folly because it is popular, then he will be held responsible for the inevitable result. If he refuses to commit folly, then he will be detested by most citizens because he is frustrating their demands.
When faced with the possible threat that the Iraqis might be amassing terrible weapons that could be used to slay millions of citizens of Western Civilization, President Bush took the only action prudence demanded and the electorate allowed: he conquered Iraq with an army.
This dangerous and expensive act did destroy the Iraqi regime, but left an American army without any clear purpose in a hostile country and subject to attack. If the Army merely returns to its home, then the threat it ended would simply return.
The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead. Then there would be little risk or expense and no American army would be left exposed. But if he did this, his cowardly electorate would have instantly ended his term of office, if not his freedom or his life.
The simple truth that modern weapons now mean a nation must practice genocide or commit suicide. Israel provides the perfect example. If the Israelis do not raze Iran, the Iranians will fulfill their boast and wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Yet Israel is not popular, and so is denied permission to defend itself. In the same vein, President Bush cannot do what is necessary for the survival of Americans. He cannot use the nation's powerful weapons. All he can do is try and discover a result that will be popular with Americans.
As there appears to be no sensible result of the invasion of Iraq that will be popular with his countrymen other than retreat, President Bush is reviled; he has become another victim of Democracy.
By elevating popular fancy over truth, Democracy is clearly an enemy of not just truth, but duty and justice, which makes it the worst form of government. President Bush must overcome not just the situation in Iraq, but democratic government.
However, President Bush has a valuable historical example that he could choose to follow.
When the ancient Roman general Julius Caesar was struggling to conquer ancient Gaul, he not only had to defeat the Gauls, but he also had to defeat his political enemies in Rome who would destroy him the moment his tenure as consul (president) ended.
Caesar pacified Gaul by mass slaughter; he then used his successful army to crush all political opposition at home and establish himself as permanent ruler of ancient Rome. This brilliant action not only ended the personal threat to Caesar, but ended the civil chaos that was threatening anarchy in ancient Rome – thus marking the start of the ancient Roman Empire that gave peace and prosperity to the known world.
If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American enemies.
He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court.
President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.
This post is merely to humor Solar_Behemoth, of course.
Hawanja
September 18th, 2007, 02:02 AM
There are so many examples of total bullshlt in the above post it's not even funny.
Don't worry Kronos, I know you didn't write it.
Morgoth
September 18th, 2007, 04:40 AM
Clone Vlad III, make him a naturalized citizen and then appoint him despot for life.
Seriously, why pick bones over this bit of stupidity when your happy little leftist swine are litterally filling entire websites with their crackpot drivel? Hey, how about we talk about St Al and his crusade against evil greenhouse gasses while galavanting across the globe in his oh-so-fuel efficient private jet from the 1970's? Or maybe that ambulance-chasing scum John Edwards and his 'two Americas'? At $1200 for a hair-cut, that takes some huge balls to bring that up. Yeah Johnny, you can really relate to the working slob.
On the other side of the fence, we have that corrupt piece of **** George W Bush and his crusade against terrorism (just don't block stuff that puts money in the pockets of his backers like, say, selling ports to Dubai or maybe closing a certain border region before any more Islamic terrorists slip in with the illegal immigrants and then have their names legally changed to 'Pedro Sanchez' just incase anybody didn't get the memo and might really be looking for them). How about one of my senators, that walking pile of garbage John McCain and his 'they're only doing jobs Americans won't do' speeches, while carefully avoiding the rest of the sentence 'Americans won't do for slave wages and in unsafe conditions.' Hell, if they were paying $10 an hour to pick lettuce you honestly think there aren't Americans who wouldn't want the job. Get that down to $3 an hour and I think you see why they have to exploit people not in the system.
Honestly, the only reason I side with the so-called right so much is because their corruption is counter-balanced by the equal corruption of the Democrats who make a habit of calling their enemies exactly what they themselves are. Plus the whole 'touchy feely, peace love and no consequences for criminals' crap that has completely hijacked that party. This country needs an enema. Once every lawyer in the land has been bludgeoned to death and fed to the ****ing pigs, its time to start on politicians.
**** Vlad, somebody go round up some of Franco's DNA. A Generalissimo is so much better than a president any day of the week, especially when it comes to shooting commies.
Kaiser Kronos
September 18th, 2007, 07:28 AM
Yes, well, the Right of America is hardly what I'd consider effective, or even downright competent. If we had a Right-wing worth speaking of, I'd gladly support it. I have little patience for the spineless, whining Democrats who think they are some sort of opposition party. I believe the Democrats are not worth their salt, and given enough rope to hang themselves, they'll go "Ok, then. Should I use the Armani or the Gucci noose?"
As for the Republicans....
It would seem they also can't get their act in shape, and no candidate running for either major party will get my vote. Hell, let's have Bush as Prez-for-Life! It would serve this idiot nation right.
The reason I no longer support Bush started with Rita, moved on into his bungling of Katrina recovery, then continued on until some idiot smacks the body politic by telling us we deserve the jolly old soul in the White House for life! Bush has bungled everything since 2003, so I'm gonna be very interested in how the '08 election unfolds. Very interested.
Morgoth
September 18th, 2007, 08:20 AM
Sadly, I can't see how Katrina can be laid at Bush's doorstep. Bungling Iraq, bungling killing bunt Laden, sleezing his way around real border control - especially after 9/11, totally ****ing up our relationship with Russia these are all things that moron can take creidt for. Katrina rests on the shoulders of that jacked-up idiot Nagin and his equally stupid governor. Never forget that. If I'm sitting up in Washington and the people in charge of Louisiana and New Orleans don't seem especially worried about a hurricane, I'm not going to sweat it either. What I'd have done after, of course, is taken the pair of them out and had them shot. I'd also have thrown out that scrap of **** we call a Constitution and sent the military in the day after the storm when it was obvious the locals couldn't cope. Don't let the Bush bashing let those two retards skirt responsibility for that crap. Plenty of other things that he deserves to be villified for, laying Katrina on his shoulders is playing into the Al Sharpton brand of willful ignorance.
Dr. Strangelove
September 18th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Bush doesn't deserve the hate for Katrina or Rita. FEMA does. The most incompetant organization KNOWN TO MAN, and then there's the Red Cross...who's almost as effective!
>_<
Hang and shoot every lawyer, politician, and lobbyist. And then, we select our government officals the way they should be: We vote for them, and then they play a game of Russian Roulette. The manly-man kind too, not this one-bullet bullshit. 6 Shot revolver, 5 loaded. If they survive, they're qualified to run the ******* country.
Gorjirus
September 18th, 2007, 11:21 AM
That wouldn't make them qualified. Just lucky.
Luck doesn't work that well.
Dr. Strangelove
September 18th, 2007, 11:26 AM
That wouldn't make them qualified. Just lucky.
Luck doesn't work that well.
Yeah, but our odds increase for getting a decent guy, instead of totally relying on this dumb-as-**** population to vote for someone...
Gorjirus
September 18th, 2007, 12:13 PM
Yeah, but our odds increase for getting a decent guy, instead of totally relying on this dumb-as-**** population to vote for someone...
Umm... no they don't.
Lucky =/= decent.
Your odds decrease for getting a decent guy with your method.
Zeptron
September 18th, 2007, 01:19 PM
I'd also have thrown out that scrap of **** we call a Constitution.
I always thought that would be your 1st act as dictator-for-life. ;)
"Haven't you ever heard of the healing power of laughter?"
Morgoth
September 18th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Yes, it would. First bowel movement and a certain scrap of centuries-old inanity concocted by a bunch of tax-evading slave-owning drunkards would be flushed. Replace it with the Malleus Malfecorum. Or maybe just the Gospel of Clint: 'If you dood it you get a whuppin'
godofPH
September 18th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Or maybe just the Gospel of Clint: 'If you dood it you get a whuppin'
Ironically, I have no problem with that one, mostly because that's been the rules my parents set on me growing up...
Morgoth
September 19th, 2007, 03:02 AM
Okay, your Venom animation is officially creeping me out. Somebody get him a bib.
Gorjirus
September 19th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Ironically, I have no problem with that one, mostly because that's been the rules my parents set on me growing up...
Worked didn't it?
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