The Matrix

[china]

<font color='#F52887'>I saw part 1 a while back and loved it. It was so original and one of the best scifi movies I have seen but I recently saw part 2 and really disliked it. It was so bad!!! The fights were boring becasue it was all fake looking CGI. Felt like watching an advanced screen saver. And that dance/sex scene was very very silly. I hope part 3 is better.

what are your opinions?

[Cole Deschain]

<font color='#0000FF'>My opinion? Seething hatred for the entire series, including the first one.

[Shadow]

<font color='#0000FF'>The Matrix was a great series that desevered great recognition. I loved every installment and I plan to buy the trilogy when I get a chance. most people did not like it because they couldn't &quot;understand&quot; it. If they would actually set down and watch the movies instead of critizing them, then maybe they would find some enjoyment in them. this movie was great for people with an avid imagination and I for one hope there is another sequel.

(On another note... the creators of The Matrix plan to continue the story in an online computer game: The Matrix online. The game will pick up where the third movie left off and it is supposed to have the biggest and most expansive gaming area ever. When the game is released, there is going to be a special board of people hired only to add more stuff and updates to the game.)

[Dark Warrior]

Quote[/b] (shadow @ April 15 2004,09:09)]The Matrix was a great series that desevered great recognition. I loved every installment and I plan to buy the trilogy when I get a chance. most people did not like it because they couldn't &quot;understand&quot; it. If they would actually set down and watch the movies instead of critizing them, then maybe they would find some enjoyment in them. this movie was great for people with an avid imagination and I for one hope there is another sequel.
I'm not meaning offense or anything here,but it really sickens me how many people who like the Matrix(not all of em,just some),use that excuse for people not liking it.It just seems to me that,well,they just can't accept people dislike the Matrix films.I,for one,know people who understand them but find them to be...not very good films.

And anyway,with that out of the way,I really enjoyed the first Matrix,great film.Then came the second...whihc put me off seeing the thrid one(still havent seen it).

Make of that what you will.

[Shadow]

<font color='#0000FF'>no offense taken. it's just that people like to complain about things they probably haven't seen. and i was just explaining this with a little rant. i hope no-one takes offense from post, i'm sorry if you do.

[Dante]

<font color='#FF0000'>I really liked the first one. &nbsp;It was original, fast paced, deep, and coooool.
I think the first one is the absolute best. &nbsp;It is one of my favorite movies. &nbsp;

The last two, well lets say they left something to be desired. &nbsp;They didn't really answer anything. &nbsp;The last two fall in my list of movies that should have never been made.

[Dark Warrior]

Quote[/b] (shadow @ April 15 2004,09:27)]no offense taken. it's just that people like to complain about things they probably haven't seen. and i was just explaining this with a little rant. i hope no-one takes offense from post, i'm sorry if you do.
Hey,none taken dude.Always good to see others opinions http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

[Cole Deschain]

<font color='#0000FF'>My big gripe was how deep the movies tried to be. When I want to be spoon-fed messianic philopophy, I'll read Dune. It's much better.

When I want to question reality, I'll read Fight Club. Or watch Dark City.

When i want to ponder free will, I've got plenty of grist for the mill inside my own head.

The Matrix series annoyed me because it had a very ham-handed approach to the philosophies involved and it still tried to pass itself off as &quot;deep.&quot;

[kent]

Quote[/b] ]The Matrix series annoyed me because it had a very ham-handed approach to the philosophies involved and it still tried to pass itself off as &quot;deep.&quot;

I agree. I think it tried too hard to get the points across while the majority of the people who saw it got the point of the whole Matrix scheme. While it is original, it spent way too much time trying to got deep into itself and to try and explain other possibilities within the Matrix. Which, to me, made it absolutely boring and confusing at times. While there were some pretty nice action scenes, there wasn't a lot of them, and most were short little spurts of action.
I found the first one to be VERY boring. But as I said, it's original, but you can tell that people who made these films were absoulte computer geeks and had nothing else better to do with their time than to come up with something as confusing and mind-boggling as The Matrix. Though the ending to The Matrix was nice when Neo went to go save Morpheus. The second one is slightly better but not much. Unfortunately, I bought the movie for some odd reason even though I didn't like the first one &nbsp;http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif &nbsp;So I wasted like fifteen bucks for a movie I most likely will never watch again. I have yet to see Revelations but am VERY RELUCTANT to see it. I'm hoping one of my friends has the DVD so I can borrow it from him and figure out if I want to buy it or not.
In the end, the films were original but went far into the Matrix universe than what they should have. I really wasn't impressed with the films and found them boring more or less.

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF0000'>The Matrix 1 was overrated.

The Matrix 2 was terrible.

The Matrix 3 sucked.

[Goji Son]

Enjoyed the first one. &nbsp;Second one was not so great so much so that I didn't bother seeing the third one. &nbsp;I tend to agree with Cole though, the philosophy is rather ham handed in some cases and treated with no subtlety in some cases. &nbsp;It wasn't really that deep at all and there are much better examples of philosophy intertwined into a interesting stories.

[china]

<font color='#F52887'>What do you guys mean by ham handed? Sorry, my english is still not the greatest and I don't know this term.....

[Cole Deschain]

<font color='#0000FF'>Obvious, too forced.

[Dark Warrior]

Quote[/b] (Cole Deschain @ April 15 2004,19:42)]Obvious, too forced.
Just like Keanu's acting? http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

(Tho I suppose its more wooden than anything,heh).

[china]

Quote[/b] (Cole Deschain @ April 15 2004,19:42)]Obvious, too forced.
<font color='#F52887'>Oh! But many Godzilla movies are obvious and forced. Look at GMK or Godzilla Vs. Smog Monster.

[RadoGoji]

<font color='#FF7F00'>I liked all three movies, but I still think the first one is the best. I thought that they should have left more space between the last two. The second one takes place some time after the first, and the third starts right where the second left off. The third focused too much on the &quot;real world&quot; IMO.

[Cole Deschain]

Quote[/b] (china @ April 15 2004,22:18)]Oh! But many Godzilla movies are obvious and forced. Look at GMK or Godzilla Vs. Smog Monster.
<font color='#0000FF'>But they don;t pretened to be intellectual sparring partners.
What was obvious and forced in the Matrix was the philosophy they were trying to cram down the audience's collective throat.


And anyway, I don't much care for either of those Goji movies, so... yeah.

[monsterslayers]

The Matrix - 2 and a half out of 4

The Matrix Reloded - 3 and a half out of 4

The Matrix Revolutions - 2 stars out of 4

It's my opinion

[china]

<font color='#F52887'>Well, personally I thought the first was very good and I would not change a thing about it. I did not think for a second that it was forced. This is the first tiem I've ever heard that brought up. I just think it's an original very interesting and entertaining movie. But I did end up watching part three and thought it was just as bad as the second. Really bad actually!!!

[SandwormPhish]

Quote[/b] ]I'm not meaning offense or anything here,but it really sickens me how many people who like the Matrix(not all of em,just some),use that excuse for people not liking it.It just seems to me that,well,they just can't accept people dislike the Matrix films.I,for one,know people who understand them but find them to be...not very good films.

On a side note I get that same excuse almost constantly whenever I make the mistake of mentioning I didn't like Neon Genesis Evangelion.

As for the Matrix films, they're a nice chunk of brainless entertainment (sorry, the whole humans for energy sources thing just doesn't fly).. IMHO they're actually far more enjoyable on DVD than in the theater since this way you can skip to all the good bits http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[THE RUNS]

<font color='#EE9A4D'>I love the Matrix through and through. I own the whole series it is great. &nbsp; http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Emperor Violenjiger]

I am a little confused about the ending... maybe I missed something, I don't know but... How does Neo killing Smith inside the Matrix end the war between man and machines in the real world?

[WitchKing667]

<font color='#000F22'>Well, Smith had essentially mutated into a super powerful virus and had completely taken over the Matrix and was ready to spread throughout the machine city. He had become a thorn in both sides, so Neo defeating Smith saved the machines as well as the humans.
What I'm still wondering is how he came back after being killed in the first film.

[WitchKing667]

<font color='#000F22'>The Matrix was fantastic and will always be a well deserved sci-fi classic. Reloaded was much weaker but still quite fun and Revolutions was probably a bit better than Reloaded but still disappointing in comparison to the original.
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My biggest issue with the film was that they killed off Trinity, I was prepared to see Morphius die, but I expected Neo and Trinity would both surivive.

Has anyone here seen the Animatrix? I really loved it, especially the Second Renaissance episodes. I honestly wish they'd make another Animatrix.

[SuperXAsh]

Well I loved the first one, mainly cause the previews didn't tell you squat about what you were about to see. They made it sound like he (Neo) was joining some super hero team or wizard cult... not a battle between man and machine and our life is just a computer made simulation.

The first one broke down barriers in special effects and expanded the genre of action to new heights. It's probably the best of the three cause it doesn't get into too much philosophical crap like the second one does. It was basically an action movie with a nice plot tacked on.

Reloaded was cool... but nowhere near as exciting as the first one. You were used to those kind of effects now (since a handful of movies had copied them since then) by the time it was released so nothing to truelly dazzle and wow you with (but the battle with the Smiths was awesome IMHO). So now it had to rely mainly on a confusing storyline.

Revolutions was cool, better than Reloaded IMHO. The battle for Zion, the final battle between Smith and Neo, great stuff. Awesome music, and it answers some of the confusing questions left over by Reloaded, though adds on almost even more. The battle for Zion was a great scene, truelly amazing effects that captivated you more than anything that the previous Reloaded could muster. You felt for the humans as they battled the machines.

Animatrix was awesome... though some of the stories were a little odd, but fun to watch nonetheless. Some of my favorite installments were Second Renassaince, Detective Story, Final Flight of the Osiris, Matriculated, and a few others (like the fuedal japan battle between the guy in the samurai armor and the chick).

overall not a BAD trilogy. Sure doesn't add up to the Lord of the Rings Trilogy in epic scale, but still a nice little cyber/techno action trilogy that is fun to watch.

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[Emperor Violenjiger]

I can't decide which was better, The Matrix or The Matrix Revolutions. Both were so............ awesome!

[Emperor Violenjiger]

Quote[/b] (WitchKing667 @ May 03 2004,18:20)]Well, Smith had essentially mutated into a super powerful virus and had completely taken over the Matrix and was ready to spread throughout the machine city. He had become a thorn in both sides, so Neo defeating Smith saved the machines as well as the humans.
What I'm still wondering is how he came back after being killed in the first film.
Who came back, Smith or Neo?

[WitchKing667]

Quote[/b] (Lord Khandejifer @ May 05 2004,14:07)]Quote[/b] (WitchKing667 @ May 03 2004,18:20)]
What I'm still wondering is how he came back after being killed in the first film.
Who came back, Smith or Neo?
<font color='#000F22'>Smith..

[Emperor Violenjiger]

Quote[/b] (WitchKing667 @ May 05 2004,14:14)]Quote[/b] (Lord Khandejifer @ May 05 2004,14:07)]Quote[/b] (WitchKing667 @ May 03 2004,18:20)]
What I'm still wondering is how he came back after being killed in the first film.
Who came back, Smith or Neo?
Smith..
Neo &quot;set him free.&quot; Or something like that.