Meltdown Goji, Destoroyah & MOGUERA vs. FW Goji, GKG & Death Ghidorah

[GMK12]

Scaled appropriately.
All powers and weaknesses.
Battlefield: Romanian countryside.


FIGHT!!!

[yargh]

What temperature is Meltdown Goji? That factors a lot.

[Hybrid Gojira]

I see two scenarios unfolding:

1) Meltdown Goji blows up and eveyrthing dies.
2) Team FInal Goji owns the other team.

[yargh]

Team FInal Goji owns the other team.

How? Meltdown Godzilla can hold off FW Goji for quite a while, as long as the "can't meltdown, just keep getting higher [temperature wise]" stuff going, he presents a major obstacle. True, Meltdown Goji's beam isn't anywhere near as powerful as the two massive explosions that Final Goji took, but the beam is a lot more focused. Since Monster X's beams can stall and hurt Godzilla, Meltdown's beam should at least do the same.

GKG would lose to Destroyah, as the Oxygen-destroyer beam doesn't seem to be like other beams that GKG could repel. Also, what would GKG do in return? His beams wouldn't damage the overgrown crustacean too badly: after eating multiple red rays, Destroyah poofed, turned into aggregates, broke down, and reappeared in its final form, seemingly unharmed, all in the span of two minutes. GKG also likes getting up close, putting him at risk of the laser horn. The barrier doesn't work up close, since the Elias were able to bypass it. I envision a double or possibly triple head loss.

MOGUERA would beat DG. DG stands around and does nothing while being shot at, a major disadvantage against the powerful and accurate beams of Moguera, which doesn't hesistate in using them near constantly. DG doesn't dodge, meaning the spiral grenade missiles would inflict a world of hurt. Even when DG retaliates, he has horrible aim (missing a Mothra flying head on at him). If his weapons hit, MOGUERA, who demonstrated incredible structural durability, will be able to take them and keep attacking.

If anybody brings up the "DG was never defeated! The Elias had to seal him away!" card, DG was still knocked out. He wasn't moving and wasn't about to get up. Just because he wasn't killed doesn't mean Leo handed his twin-tailed reptilian butt to him. Leo would have still kicked the bejeezus out of DG 10 times out of 10.

[yargh]

But the former trio would still have difficulty beating GFW Goji. Meltdown Goji and Destroyah might be able to take him though, along with a slightly damaged Moguera.

[Hybrid Gojira]

How?

First off, Mogs is absolutely toast. If he doesn't get blow up in one GFW Goji shot, the combined beam spammyness of the three monsters is going to go through that thing like "crap through a goose." Furthermore, GKG and DG beam spam so much that not even Des could hold up long enough to do enough damage to win.

And Meltdown Goji, as much as it pains me, would lose in every aspect to FInal Goji. His beam is absurdly powerful and he's a better fighter, more mobile and (probably) physically stronger.

[yargh]

If he doesn't get blow up in one GFW Goji shot

Examining the performance of GFW Goji's beam on Ebirah, Hedorah, and the building, and considering the fact that they weigh less than Mecha-Penguin, then Moguera can probably take two beam shots before entering the scrap heap.

Also, that's what Meltdown Goji is there for. I'll defend him later on.

the combined beam spammyness of the three monsters

What are you talking about? GFW Goji doesn't like using his beam. He prefers to wade through an enemy assault and pound the living snot out of his enemies until they are but a quivering pile of flesh on the ground.

DG has absolutely horrendous aim, as stated in my previous post.

GKG does like to beam-spam. You might say "since the corona beam and GKG's beams are the same in power (stock footage), MOGUERA will be affected the same way!"

Wrong. GKG's beams do not penetrate and explode like the corona beam. That factor of "burrow in THEN explode" made the corona beam more damaging to Moguera. Mind you, they'll scorch and burn the outer haul of the mech, but it will take many, many salvos to achieve the kind of effect Spacegodzilla's beam did.

And if you want to bring up Moguera's durability, just do so and I'll answer it gladly.

Furthermore, GKG and DG beam spam so much that not even Des could hold up long enough to do enough damage to win

First off, DG has horrible aim. Even if his attacks hit, they aren't that powerful. GKG's beams would certainly hurt more, but without super-intense heat (say a meltdown) or super-cold, it won't die.

And besides, Destroyah turns into a cloud of micro-oxygen, reforms into dozens of small aggregates, poofs (for lack of a better word) again, and reappears in its final form. All in the span of 3 or 4 minutes. GKG and DG can't do enough damage to put Destroyah down for good.

And I've addressed in my previous post how Destroyah can (and probably will) beat GKG.

And Meltdown Goji, as much as it pains me, would lose in every aspect to FInal Goji. His beam is absurdly powerful and he's a better fighter, more mobile and (probably) physically stronger.

True. Doesn't mean he would lose in a fight. I'll just recap my previous post, since I don't want to retype that whole portion of it.

Meltdown Godzilla can hold off FW Goji for quite a while, as long as the "can't meltdown, just keep getting higher [temperature wise]" stuff going, he presents a major obstacle. True, Meltdown Goji's beam isn't anywhere near as powerful as the two massive explosions that Final Goji took, but the beam is a lot more focused. Since Monster X's beams can stall and hurt Godzilla, Meltdown's beam should at least do the same.


In addition, Meltdown's regeneration is so absurd, the only way GFW Goji could win is by knocking out Meltdown Goji with his beam or making him pass out from the pain.

NOTE: Most of the above statements regarding Meltdown Goji were made in the "Burning Godzilla vs. FW Goji" thread by Anguirus55. Sorry for paraphrasing them.

[Orga777]

Examining the performance of GFW Goji's beam on Ebirah, Hedorah, and the building, and considering the fact that they weigh less than Mecha-Penguin, then Moguera can probably take two beam shots before entering the scrap heap.

Sorry buddy, MOG only weighs 40,000 tons more than Ebirah and Hedorah put together NOT counting the building which is probably around 40,000 tons itself. That is not scaled mind you. How about the fact that MOG was NEVER hit with a beam of this magnatude before? All those Corona Beams don't have the force or destructive power of GFW Goji's ray. Even the Spiral Ray is pathetic compared to it.


What are you talking about? GFW Goji doesn't like using his beam. He prefers to wade through an enemy assault and pound the living snot out of his enemies until they are but a quivering pile of flesh on the ground.


He used it on Gigan twice, GINO twice, once on the Antarctic Base, once againt Kamacuras, twice on Ebirah/Hedorah, once on the Asteroid, a couple times against MX, one more time agasint Kaiser pre Kaiser energy, and a few times against Gotengo. I am probably missing some too. In any case, he may not use the beam as much as Heisei Goji, but he does use it a lot. And a lot here means instant death.

Wrong. GKG's beams do not penetrate and explode like the corona beam. That factor of "burrow in THEN explode" made the corona beam more damaging to Moguera. Mind you, they'll scorch and burn the outer haul of the mech, but it will take many, many salvos to achieve the kind of effect Spacegodzilla's beam did.

It won't take long for GKG to match the damage Space Godzilla did on MOG. He spams more beams than Space Godzilla could ever dream of. And in a much faster sucession.

First off, DG has horrible aim. Even if his attacks hit, they aren't that powerful. GKG's beams would certainly hurt more, but without super-intense heat (say a meltdown) or super-cold, it won't die.

DG's weaponry is pretty powerful actually.

And besides, Destroyah turns into a cloud of micro-oxygen, reforms into dozens of small aggregates, poofs (for lack of a better word) again, and reappears in its final form. All in the span of 3 or 4 minutes. GKG and DG can't do enough damage to put Destroyah down for good.

Yes he does. But he also ran tried to run away at the end of his fight with Goji due to damage. GFW Goji can mimic that easily.

And I've addressed in my previous post how Destroyah can (and probably will) beat GKG.

I will agree to this. Des has about five different ways to kill GKG.

In addition, Meltdown's regeneration is so absurd, the only way GFW Goji could win is by knocking out Meltdown Goji with his beam or making him pass out from the pain.

Or blow him to peices which is a more realistic out come when it involves GFW Goji's beam.

[Hybrid Gojira]

Examining the performance of GFW Goji's beam on Ebirah, Hedorah, and the building, and considering the fact that they weigh less than Mecha-Penguin, then Moguera can probably take two beam shots before entering the scrap heap.

See Orga's post.

Also, that's what Meltdown Goji is there for. I'll defend him later on.

What? As another target?

[/quote]What are you talking about? GFW Goji doesn't like using his beam. He prefers to wade through an enemy assault and pound the living snot out of his enemies until they are but a quivering pile of flesh on the ground.[/quote]

You're completely missing the point - his beam will instakill most monsters. MOgs is absolutely toast. He;s going to get roasted.

DG has absolutely horrendous aim, as stated in my previous post.

He's also fighting 3 of the biggest, slowest monsters of all time. It's not like he's Legion, and his aim isn't THAT bad.


Wrong. GKG's beams do not penetrate and explode like the corona beam. That factor of "burrow in THEN explode" made the corona beam more damaging to Moguera. Mind you, they'll scorch and burn the outer haul of the mech, but it will take many, many salvos to achieve the kind of effect Spacegodzilla's beam did.

Uh, did I ever claim anything like that?

No, and to be frank it's not going to matter. Godzilla's beam thrashed everything he shot (menus MX or KG). There's no way Mogs would survive. GKG? Well he thrashed Mothra, who would go toe-to-toe with alot of monsters.

And if you want to bring up Moguera's durability, just do so and I'll answer it gladly.

UberBeam> Mogs. Any day.

And besides, Destroyah turns into a cloud of micro-oxygen, reforms into dozens of small aggregates, poofs (for lack of a better word) again, and reappears in its final form. All in the span of 3 or 4 minutes. GKG and DG can't do enough damage to put Destroyah down for good.

The combined beams are too much for Des. Godzilla could beat him alone.

And I've addressed in my previous post how Destroyah can (and probably will) beat GKG.

One on one? Maybe. They problem is it's going to be 2 on 3 early on because Mog's durability is less than the other monsters. Meaning GKG wouldn't take Des on alone. He won't have to.

In addition, Meltdown's regeneration is so absurd, the only way GFW Goji could win is by knocking out Meltdown Goji with his beam or making him pass out from the pain.

And that's a problem how exactly? It's not.