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Kaiser Kronos
April 16th, 2008, 03:47 PM
And it isn't like Republicrats. ;)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080416/sc_afp/scienceanthropologyneanderthalsoffbeat


Grunt work: Scientists make Neanderthals speak again

Wed Apr 16, 9:05 AM ET

After a nearly 30,000-year silence, Neanderthals are speaking once more, thanks to researchers who have modelled the hominids' larynx to replicate the possible sounds they would have made, New Scientist says.
The work, led by Robert McCarthy, an anthropologist at Florida Atlantic University at Boca Raton, is based on Neanderthal fossils found in France, the British journal said on its website on Wednesday.
The item includes an audio snippet in which a computer synthesiser replicates how a Neanderthal would say an "e" and compares this with the same sound as made by modern humans.
A study published last October in the journal Current Biology found that Neanderthals carried the only human gene that has so far been linked to language.
This implies Neanderthals had at least some of the genetic prerequisites for acquiring language.
Even so, experts question whether Neanderthals had the necessary biological gear, such as fine nerves connected to tongue muscles and lips, that would enable them do more than just grunt.
Their vocal tracts lacked the ability to make "quantal vowels" that underpin modern speech, and so oral communication would have been limited, McCarthy believes.
"They would have spoken a bit differently. They wouldn't have been able to produce these quantal vowels that form the basis of spoken language," he told New Scientist.
Squat and slope-browed, Neanderthals are our closest extinct ancestors.
They lived in parts of Europe, Central Asia and the Middle East for around 170,000 years, then died out mysteriously some 28,000 years ago or more.
Two main theories have emerged to explain their disappearance: either they were wiped out by Homo sapiens -- the new, smarter hominid on the block -- or they interbred with the newcomers, which implies that our genome today may have Neanderthal DNA.
New Scientist: Neanderthals speak out after 30,000 years (includes audio)




This is going to sound really nerdy, but Neanderthals were not human ancestors, they were a side branch we killed off by arriving through their range at a most fortituous time. :angry:

Guess you can't trust everything you read. :p

Goji Son
April 16th, 2008, 05:01 PM
This is going to sound really nerdy, but Neanderthals were not human ancestors, they were a side branch we killed off by arriving through their range at a most fortituous time. :angry:

Guess you can't trust everything you read. :p

Give the guy a break, it's not like he's a seasoned anthropologist. It's not like many are going to be reading this and thinking it's true anyways because the word "God" isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. ;).

Morgoth
April 19th, 2008, 11:02 PM
This is another example of bad science, just like all these stooges building entire animals from a few teeth. Gimme a break, there are limits to what you can learn from bones. What something sounded like is one. Just because something could make a particular noise does not mean it did. Too much hubris and arrogance, not enough humility and acceptance that some things are beyond man's ability to know.