GMK Godzilla vs GFW Kumonga, GFW Kamacuras and Megaguirus

[TitanGojira]

Area: The same part of Mt. Fuji that Godzilla fought Rodan, Anguirus and King Caesar in Final Wars.

Can the insect trio inflict enough damage on GMK Godzilla to win, or does he crush them like... well, bugs?

[Hybrid Gojira]

Godzilla is overwhelmed. Despite having enough firepower to put down all three monsters, He'd have a hard enough time dealing with Megaguirus, and Kammy is lightning fast as well. Kumonga can stand back and web him, although the spider is probably the easiest target to vaporize from afar. I don't really see this fight being close.

[Orga777]

Godzilla is overwhelmed. Despite having enough firepower to put down all three monsters, He'd have a hard enough time dealing with Megaguirus, and Kammy is lightning fast as well. Kumonga can stand back and web him, although the spider is probably the easiest target to vaporize from afar. I don't really see this fight being close.

I don't know Hybrid. You are underestimating GMK Goji's overall fortitude. Kamacuras has NO way to actually hurt GMK Godzilla. Megaguirus is the biggest overall threat here due to her stinger, but, with GMK Goji's hide, it won't exactly be easy to penatrate. This can be a close fight just because there are a lot of things going on around Goji that will distract him and give him trouble in the early goings of the match. The more the fight goes on, the more he gets pissed. GMK Godzilla gains skill the longer the fight goes on and starts to read moves his opponents make ahead of time.

Kumonga's jumps are not exactly fast, Goji can frag him easily with a beam after a couple webbings. Kamacuras could knock Goji over for a bit, but eventually, he will be hit with either a beam, or a crushing blow. Megaguirus on the other hand is not always moving warp speed, and if she fights like she did against GXM Godzilla, a beam will eventually toast her ***.

The fight can be very close, but Goji's overhelming power and fortitude I think push him over the edge to practically an all hth kaiju batallion.

[SpaceHunterM]

It literally comes down to whether you feel GMK goji has the unlimited stamina of something driven by the undead. If he does then the bugs can't really land a kill shot, if he doesn't then they'll tire him out before he can catch Kammy and Megs.

[Seer235]

You never want to get in an endurance match with Godzilla, regardless of version. The bigger question for me is whether any of the insects (ie, Megaguirus) can inflict serious damage on Godzilla. And I'm not so sure that's the case.

[Hybrid Gojira]

I don't know Hybrid. You are underestimating GMK Goji's overall fortitude.

I admit this is true. I certainly didn't consider some aspects of Godzilla's ability, namely his crazily armored hide.

Despite Baragon being outmatched by Godzilla, he was strong enough to bite into G's arm and hang on for several seconds, all the while being tossed around like a rag doll. That's impressive; his bite was so strong it held his body weight as Godzilla tossed him around, yet it left no damage. Later, we see Ghidorah bite Godzilla, leaving no damage. The only time visible damage is see is when the spirit ball explodes, and when the missiles drills through him from the inside.

However, Megaguirus has a giant stinger. While Godzilla won't be easily jabbed, he also likes melee, giving the 3 monsters time to attack him. Kumonga's webbing is also very strong, supporting Kumonga's weight as Godzilla swung him around, and both Kamacarus and Megaguirus are incredibly fast, giving them a shot to win.

The fight can be very close,

Agreed. I'd probably abstain, because Godzilla doesn't utilize his ray early in combat which gives the monster trio time to work against him. No doubt the ray would frag all three, but Godzilla enjoys melee, therefore they have a better shot to win. Fighting Mothra who is fast is one thing; 2 monsters coming from multiple directions is another; then you have to deal with webbing on top of it. Yes, Godzilla's dorsal spines could melt it away, but only some of it.

[Orga777]

Agreed. I'd probably abstain, because Godzilla doesn't utilize his ray early in combat which gives the monster trio time to work against him. No doubt the ray would frag all three, but Godzilla enjoys melee, therefore they have a better shot to win. Fighting Mothra who is fast is one thing; 2 monsters coming from multiple directions is another; then you have to deal with webbing on top of it. Yes, Godzilla's dorsal spines could melt it away, but only some of it.

Remember, when pressed against multiple enemies attacking at once, the beam comes into play more often. This is shown three times against military personel with his continual beam sweeps. Also, against flying opponents, the beam is also used more often. Just ask Mothra. Both Megs and Kam fly, and are just begging to be pegged by such a shot. The only one here that I can see damaging GMK Goji is Megaguirus. The other two are nothing but annoying obstacles really.

[Zardac the Great]

I'd have to agree with you here, Orga, except in one aspect.

The mantis didn't fly around. He camoflauged himself and flew directly at Godzilla at very high speed. The entire flight took less time than the Dark Lord uses to charge his breath.

I think that the first time, Kamacuras will suprise Godzilla here, but do no real damage. The second time he tries (unless he's stupid enough to stay and melee Godzilla in which case he'll be ripped apart), he'll be getting a taste of what Baragon got when he threw himself at Goji.

[Hybrid Gojira]

The entire flight took less time than the Dark Lord uses to charge his breath.

I think that the first time, Kamacuras will suprise Godzilla here, but do no real damage. The second time he tries (unless he's stupid enough to stay and melee Godzilla in which case he'll be ripped apart), he'll be getting a taste of what Baragon got when he threw himself at Goji.

Baragon leaped at Godzilla; Kamacarus is much faster than that. Granted, Godzilla did swat Mothra out of the sky but she wasn't flying in as fast as Kammy, either. Godzilla has great speed, but is he GFW fast?

Still on the fence.

@Orga: The beam might be used more often, but using the beam more often does not mean Godzilla is hitting Kammy or Megs outright. Kumonga I'd give you because he's slow, but Godzilla never dealt with 2 extremely fast opponents who want to get up close and fight, and there is still the chance Kumona webs him in the chaos.

[Zardac the Great]

Baragon leaped at Godzilla; Kamacarus is much faster than that. Granted, Godzilla did swat Mothra out of the sky but she wasn't flying in as fast as Kammy, either. Godzilla has great speed, but is he GFW fast?




Definitely not the first time. After that he may (I think will) get a feel for exactly what Kamacuras can do.

Whether he can do that while being assaulted by other fast bugs is something else entirely. I have no idea.

[Orga777]

@Orga: The beam might be used more often, but using the beam more often does not mean Godzilla is hitting Kammy or Megs outright. Kumonga I'd give you because he's slow, but Godzilla never dealt with 2 extremely fast opponents who want to get up close and fight, and there is still the chance Kumona webs him in the chaos.

He doesn't have to be as fast as GFW Godzilla. Foe one reason, Megaguirus is not always going super-fast. If she goes head on against GMK Goji like she did against GXM Goji, there will be pain... and a lot of it. And since Kamacuras has nothing at all to hurt GMK Godzilla with, it will only take one mistake by Kam to be overwhelmed and slaughtered.

[Tomzilla]

I'm not really sure about Megaguirus's stinger piercing GMK Godzilla for the win here. Yes, it pierced GxM Godzilla with ease; however, did that Godzilla withstand anything semi-impressive? Seriously. We later see Godzilla crunching Megaguirus's stinger. If it could pierce something as sturdy as Godzilla's hide, it'd have to be sturdy, too. (Ever tried biting apart a knife or a needle?)

So I'm not convinced. Megaguirus will try to ram her stinger into Godzilla. Guess what will happen? It'll hit and either bounce off or shatter. This Godzilla's flesh is very thick. Now if Megaguirus did pierce Godzilla? He'll eventually explode, right? No, not really. Megaguirus siphons energy. Godzilla blew up because he couldn't control it. His energy buildup was out of control. So if Megaguirus is absorbing energy, she'd be doing Godzilla a big favor. And the moment he breaks free? Well, he doesn't have to worry about his energy blowing him up anytime soon. He might even get off a beam or two before experiencing some problems.

Good luck in slicing deep enough. Ghidorah's Meteor Fireball didn't get the job done. It took a drill fired internally to do it. And even then, it was only because there was already a wound.

Of course, it'd be a lot harder for Godzilla to hit Megaguirus with his atomic breath than Kamacuras. Unlike Kamacuras, Megaguirus actually has some dodging beam feats under her belt. Albeit not very good ones (boy did GxM Godzilla have bad aim). I'd say GMK Mothra had better dodging feats.

So the odds are GMK Godzilla will score a hit. On both of 'em. The moment that happens, the insects die.

Kumonga actually helps. Those web nets will keep Godzilla distracted. Of course, the moment Godzilla acknowledges the spider's existence, he'll eradicate it from existence.

It'd be a long fight, one Godzilla eventually wins.

[Burkion]

Yeah. The bugs simply do NOT have a heavy hitter on their team-and you need a heavy hitter to take this (and most) Godzilla down.

[Hybrid Gojira]

Yeah. The bugs simply do NOT have a heavy hitter on their team-and you need a heavy hitter to take this (and most) Godzilla down.

Megaguirus drained GXM Godzilla's energy; i.e. the area where the beam is produced. Assuming that she does jab Kanekozilla, wouldn't that mean he starts exploding the next time he uses said beam? I think the speed used by Megs and Kammy is being underestimated here. Godzilla's fast, but not THAT fast, and he likes to toy with his foes, which gives them a legit shot to win.

In example, look at Godzilla's fight with Baragon. He stands around alot, and really he doesn't go on the offensive until late in the battle; he mainly reacts to what baragon does. What happens if he toys with Kumonga, and then Kammy and Megs attack>?

[Burkion]

...well Kammy isn't going to be doing anything but run distraction.

We have no evidence of any skill Kammy has in combat, outside speed and hiding.

And as pointed out, its very...dubious that Megs is going to stab THIS Godzilla.

While alot of the Godzillas are dough boy in their making, don't let its beer belly fool you.

This one has abs made of rock.

Megs needs to get it in one shot

Unless she can hit his eyes, that's not going to happen and she's going to get slaughtered.

[Orga777]

Megaguirus drained GXM Godzilla's energy; i.e. the area where the beam is produced. Assuming that she does jab Kanekozilla, wouldn't that mean he starts exploding the next time he uses said beam? I think the speed used by Megs and Kammy is being underestimated here. Godzilla's fast, but not THAT fast, and he likes to toy with his foes, which gives them a legit shot to win.

I don't think anybody gets what was happening in GMK at all... because if you did know, you would know that is not what happened. First, Megaguirus will be stinging in the torso area. Just like she did every single time against GXM Godzilla (who has NO skin durability like GMK Godzilla does.) That will just result in damage in an area that probably won't efefct Godzilla blowing up at all. Actually, it HELPS Godzilla big time since he cannot fire his beam while being drained. You look in the movie you can plainly see that the flesh under the black hide healed itself (which is why he blew up.) Since Goji cannot immediately fire his beam, it will heal over, preventing any excess beam to explode outward. Actually, since it will not be high enough on his body, I don't think it even MATTERS. Unless Megs does something completely out of character and stabs in the neck or shoulder area.

Also, Kamacuras will do nothing to this Godzilla. At all.

In example, look at Godzilla's fight with Baragon. He stands around alot, and really he doesn't go on the offensive until late in the battle; he mainly reacts to what baragon does. What happens if he toys with Kumonga, and then Kammy and Megs attack>?

The issue with that? The longer the fight goes, the less Goji messes around and the more he wants everything dead. Kumonga, Kamacuras, and Megaguirus will get an early advantage, then Goji starts picking them off one by one since they lack the ability to seriously damage him.