07. Gigan (Showa) and Megalon vs. King Cobra (G: The Series)

[Battle Master]

Gigan (Showa) (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20922) and Megalon (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20918)
vs.
King Cobra (G: The Series) (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21132)
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Battlefield: Roostville (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20933)

[KaijuKing]

...crap. And Cobra could've done pretty well for himself, too. I'll have to watch his G:TS episode again to be sure, but I don't think he has much of a chance here. He had a hard time withstanding Zilla's atomic fire, as I recall, so a napalm blast or two from Megalon will likely put him down easily enough. Still, Cobra's fast enough that he could probably manage to blind and constrict Megalon before he got hit.

The real problem here is Gigan. Cobra can't constrict him without being shredded by the buzzsaw, and constriction is his only real means of killing an enemy. I suppose he could blind Gigan and try to just headbutt him to death, but Gigan's claws flailing around would probably nail him sooner or later. He'll most likely wind up like a worm on a fish hook.

So I'll watch the episode before making a final decision, but for now I'm leaning towards the Power Tool Twins on this one.

[Husnock]

I honestly can't make a decision right now that wouldn't be derived from raging bias against G:TS, so I'll come back when someone's brought up more points.

[Burkion]

The Idiot Duo pull off the win through fire power and TEAMWORK!

[SpaceHunterM]

Hardly one sided at all, King Cobra is leagues more intelligent than his opponents and will be fighting too blind idiots less than a minute into the battle. Hell I can promise that Megalon will end if blasting Gigan more than a few times before all is said and done and we all know that Gi doesn't like to stick around when the going gets tough. Being the chicken he is I can't imagine Gigan sticking around once he's been blinded and he hears Megalon being crushed to death near him. That would make anyone want to hide in a hole, not just the most famous coward in Kaiju history. Frankly... once they're blinded Megs and Gi have no way to remove the venom/glue from their eyes/optics and will not be able to fight at even 50 % their already unimpressive potential. Throw in Megs stupidity and Gigan's cowardice there is very little I can see them doing to come away victorious.


BTW anyone else getting sick of the GTS bias from people who never even watched an episode?

[Burkion]

Considering I've watched every episode, nope!

Cobra isn't going to be blidning Gigan. Megalon maybe.

But Gigan?

That eye isn't REAL. He's a cyborg for a reason.

Beyond that, how is Cobra going to finish them off?

They're not mathaletes, but they're *THUGS*.

[SpaceHunterM]

His eye isn't real? Seriously? You think he has some sort of hidden invisible eyes to show him what's going on? Some sort of miraculous sensors we have no way of knowing or any reason to believe he has? He has an eye and that is how he visibly knows where he is going trying to sell anyone that Gigan has another way of seeing is simply grasping at invisible straws.


Yeah Thugs... A pair that do really well when the odds aren't against them, but fall apart when they are at a disadvantage like, oh I don't know, BEING BLINDED!

Megalon is easily dealt with via constriction and in the one in five million chance that Gigan doesn't decide that this **** is too real for him and he splits then Cobra just needs to be Smart about slapping him around until he does. Hell I wouldn't even put constriction out of the equation considering how chaotic the fight is and how quickly King Cobra was able to CRUSH mecha fuzzball. Could he get cut up doing so? YES, but odds are Gigan isn't going to be able to realize what is happening and react fast enough to prevent his own destruction.

[Burkion]

I meant, due to its NON organic nature, Snakey here isn't going to be able to blind it.

[Hybrid Gojira]

My initial thoughts on this are that Cobra can win, but I think Megalon and Gigan probably will. Cobra has enough strength to crush either, but doing so against Gigan is just asking to be sawed.

Plus, Megalon's beams are pretty strong and his napalm stuff is just nasty. Combine that with Gigan's ability to fly and that these two clowns ACTUALLY work together, and I think Cobra loses.

[SpaceHunterM]

It still PHYSICALLY blocks the eye burk, then venom effect is just extra.


EDIT for Hyrbid: The problem is that Megs and Gi like to start of the fight on the ground and KC likes to Blind his opponents early. This combination of Tendencies doom Team Beavis and Buzzsaw.

[Zardac the Great]

I'm... agreeing with SpaceHunter?

I'm...I'm speechless.

But he's right.

I can only envision three ways for Team Bozo to win:

1) Cobra can try to constrict Gigan. Bad move.

2) It might be possible that the glue burns. This won't help either Megalon or Gigan (who, yes, will be blinded) see again, though.

c) If the fight goes on for too long, a Gyaos swarm appears. If, by some miraculous circumstance, Gigan is not glued to the ground when they show up, it is vaugely possible that they'll eat the snake first.

[SpaceHunterM]

I'm... agreeing with SpaceHunter?

I'm...I'm speechless.

But he's right.

I

Damnit...now I have to question my own argument... THANKS Z :angry:

[Orga777]

Lets look at it this way. If King Cobra constricts Gigan. Match over. If King Cobra constricts Megalon, match over because Gigan will come over and, thinking that Megalon is NOT getting crushed and is only holding his enemy down, will use his buzzsaw on him anyway. Resulting in... well... a match over.

Seriosuly, Gigan and Megalon are morons, but they have enough weaponry and physical force to just overmatch Cobra. If it was One on One, it would have been more interesting, but the teamwork is just going to push their mediocrity over the top in this match.

Winners: Showa Gigan and Megalon
Loser: King Cobra

[SpaceHunterM]

Ok Guys its time to take to actually LOOK at King Cobra instead of writing him off. He WILL blind Gigan and Megalon and there is NOTHING they can do about that. Orga could you, ya know, actually read some of my arguments before posting silly things like you usually do?


I mean COME ON! Megalon and Gigan are not wimps when combined into team idiot, but they are facing an opponent who can and will take away the most important asset you have while fighting at the very beginning of the match. Stop ignoring it and try to come up with an ACTUAL argument against it.

[Seer235]

Ok, I watched King Cobra's episode, and I'm actually rather impressed with him. When matched up against two opponents, he quickly blinded one then wrapped around the other. He's strong enough to either crush or bite through a mecha like Robo-Yeti, and is generally rather fast. Furthermore, it took a couple beams from GINO to actually wear him down enough for him to be taken down in hth, and GINO's beam is nothing to scoff at.

I could easily see King Cobra taking Megalon down by crushing and getting Gigan with a wicked neck bite.

I may actually be favoring King Cobra now.

[Orga777]

Ok, I watched King Cobra's episode, and I'm actually rather impressed with him. When matched up against two opponents, he quickly blinded one then wrapped around the other. He's strong enough to either crush or bite through a mecha like Robo-Yeti, and is generally rather fast. Furthermore, it took a couple beams from GINO to actually wear him down enough for him to be taken down in hth, and GINO's beam is nothing to scoff at.

I could easily see King Cobra taking Megalon down by crushing and getting Gigan with a wicked neck bite.

I may actually be favoring King Cobra now.

It has been forever since I have seen the series... It would be nice to get some clips for this....

[SpaceHunterM]

Here watch the whole ep

He does show up later in the series but I don't think they were scenes that had anything other than him being controlled by aliens or destroying their ships.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNS4dxHEmKc&feature=related

[Orga777]

Here watch the whole ep

He does show up later in the series but I don't think they were scenes that had anything other than him being controlled by aliens or destroying their ships.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNS4dxHEmKc&feature=related

Thanks for that. It took some skipping around... Too much for me to really care to do again, but I managed to see everything that mattered. While I am not entirely impressed by Robo-Yeti (who seems to be only be as durable as Showa MG at best), King Cobra had a decent showing. Toon GINO's beam usually ranges though, so I am not entirely sure how to rate how well Cobra can take weaponry, and he DID lose in a rather contrieved way at the end and was obviously effected by each beam that hit him.

But, it did help me out for this fight and it is still interesting. Mostly because Megalon and Gigan lack intellect. The problem though is Gigan's buzzsaw still though. Cobra doesn't ALWAYS crush his opponents when he wraps around them. He only did so once. If he tries that against Gigan, that saw will freaking slice into him rather handily. Even if blinded by the venom that doesn't work like venom... This is still a close match, but overall, I may still have to favor Gigan and Megalon. Only because the only real advantage Cobra has is the blinding venom. I don't see it being a good enough game winner here.

Leaning: Gigan and Megalon

[SpaceHunterM]

Orga do me a favor and get into a fight with someone stronger and faster than you then hit ourself in the head so you can't recognize a cat from a Giraffe and then put a blindfold on. Tell me how it goes.


I obviously can't hide my disbelief that people are underestimating how much Cobra's ability to blind his opponents can drastically alter a battle. Can someone explain what I'm missing here? Gigan's buzzsaw isn't so huge that it can cut Cobra is half if its activated and he's being constricted, it'll hurt yeah, but Cobra isn't Angilas and gonna aimlessly throw himself at the thing. He'll simply resort to biting which is also very effective for him.

[Tomzilla]

King Cobra blinds Megalon. Megalon suddenly becomes a competent creature despite no longer being able to see. Too bad he kills Gigan in the process, because he confused him with Cobra.


...That could totally happen. :look::p

Anyway, I'm leaning towards King Cobra. He dominated Toonzilla and Robo-Yeti simultaneously. Now Zilla and Robo-Yeti were evenly matched. One of them could take Gigan or Megalon in a fight. And the youtube uploads prove this. Who isn't impressed by the fighting skills both Zilla and Robo-Yeti showed?

Not that it mattered. King Cobra would immediately blind both opponents in the beginning of the match. And while Megalon's firepower is impressive, it isn't wrecking King Cobra anytime soon. Not if it took several shots from Zilla's thermonuclear breath to hurt him. So what happens then? Cobra uses his superior agility and speed to constrict Megalon. Cobra either pops Megalon like a cherry and/or tears into his neck with its jaws. As for Gigan? Yes, it'd be a bad idea to do this. Gigan's buzzsaw would hurt. So it could very well be the end of Cobra right then and there. It all depends if Cobra can bite into Gigan's neck in time or not. And since Gigan needs to activate said buzzsaw, I'm leaning towards Cobra succeeding here.

Winner: King Cobra

Losers: Megalon & Gigan

[KaijuKing]

I watched the episode, too. Yeah, I'd say Cobra has a small advantage here thanks to the blinding venom. He can constrict Megalon, then bite Gigan's neck. Either of them could still get in a lucky hit or two, but Cobra is probably fast enough to outmaneuver them.

Leaning towards King Cobra.

[Hybrid Gojira]

EDIT for Hyrbid: The problem is that Megs and Gi like to start of the fight on the ground and KC likes to Blind his opponents early. This combination of Tendencies doom Team Beavis and Buzzsaw.


I rewatched the link you posted (thanks btw - I'd seen it before but not for awhile). Cobra is a beast, but he still has a really, really tough draw.

He'll kill Megalon like a champ, but his attacks ALWAYS involve constricting his opponents. Guess what? Blinded or not, Gigan is a walking blade. He'll cut into Cobra, and that will make it really tough to do much else. Gigan doesn't need to see to use his saw.

Winner: Gigan and Megalon

[MirrenDono]

Tom got the big point here already; Cobra has handled two opponents at the same time before, and he came out on top. That was against two far more intelligent, powerful Kaiju that make Gigan and Megalon look like the chumps that they are.

If he was able to subdue Toonzilla and Robo Yeti, there's no reason why he can't do to the same to Gigan and Megalon. I'm siding with Cobra, hands down.

[The Great MM]

Seriously. You're all going to make me say it? Really? Well f'n fine.




COOOOOOOOBRAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pphHQVv6AgQ)

[Inferno Rodan]

Wow. I really love how everyone is now using the EXACT same argument I did when KC went up against Jiger and Megaguirus last time. And NO ONE bought it then. Lame.

Anyway, this'll be a tough match. Mainly because of Gigan. And even then it's more because of Gigan's body structure than his actual strength or fighting ability. Megalon's screwed.

I'm siding with King Cobra, barring Gigan getting lucky.

[Husnock]

TW anyone else getting sick of the GTS bias from people who never even watched an episode?

Oh, I've seen the show, ALL of it actually. I just hate it and the majority of the Kaiju in it.

[Angirus7899]

ok just saw the cartoon and one thing crosses my mind. how you people can sit there and say that king cobra wont blind gigan. gigan will be blinded then cobra constricts megalon to death and then will bite giga's head off while gigan cant see it. so the wonder idiots die and king cobra wins without breaking a sweat because lets face it the wonder idiots are just that IDIOTS!!!


Edge King Cobra

[Husnock]

bite giga's head off while gigan cant see it.

BITE Gigan's HEAD off?!? Are you Godzillakamper under a second account or something?

[SpaceHunterM]

Biting through his head certainly isn't and impossibility, hell I think its pretty much garuntee'd

[Tomzilla]

Wow. I really love how everyone is now using the EXACT same argument I did when KC went up against Jiger and Megaguirus last time. And NO ONE bought it then. Lame.

http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showpost.php?p=325676&postcount=19

Further proof you only read your own posts. ;)

[Inferno Rodan]

http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showpost.php?p=325676&postcount=19

Further proof you only read your own posts. ;)
Pardon me for not remembering every post in a thread from 9 months ago. Besides, the end vote was 12-5 in favor of Jiger and Megs. And 3 of the 5 that did vote for KC and Rodan were already leaning them from the start. Unless you weren't thinking along the same lines already and my post specifically swung your vote, I'd say my point about no one buying it pretty well stands.

[SpaceHunterM]

Edited for Forum peace



Hybrid GojirWRONG :p
I rewatched the link you posted (thanks btw - I'd seen it before but not for awhile). Cobra is a beast, but he still has a really, really tough draw.

He'll kill Megalon like a champ, but his attacks ALWAYS involve constricting his opponents. Guess what? Blinded or not, Gigan is a walking blade. He'll cut into Cobra, and that will make it really tough to do much else. Gigan doesn't need to see to use his saw.



There are alot of things that make me sigh in debates like these... Mostly its grasping at straws and frankly the idea that Gigan activating his saw when being constricted is an auto KO is just that. Cobra isn't just long, he's pretty beefy for a snake as well and has around the same girth of Toonzilla's main body. Now if Gigan was up against TZ I'm pretty sure that no one would claim that after being Buzzed once that Toonzilla would simply bleed out and die right?

Let's suppose Cobra is constricting Gigan (who will be even more scared and confused that usual having no sight) and Gigan activates his saw without any hesitation before Cobra can do any significant damage to him. That blade can't cut deep enough to put Cobra out of the match, he's a BIG snake and YES having a chunk of flesh cut off will hurt, but its not like he's gonna stay constricted at that point. He's gonna get the **** off of Gigan and attack a different way. Will he be hurt? Yes. Will he still have the advantage against a physically weaker and BLIND opponent? Yes. Is Hyrbid being the silly old git we know and love by believing otherwise? Yes. But hopefully you'll eventually come over the line and enjoy a hot meal of Cyborg oil and Cockroach truffle.

[Zardac the Great]

I'm still going for the snake, though he DOES have a "ninja" who dresses in WHITE screaming out his name during an attack, so there you go.

[Hybrid Gojira]

Edited for Forum peace

Peace? I declare Jihad!

Yes. But hopefully you'll eventually come over the line and enjoy a hot meal of Cyborg oil and Cockroach truffle.


Yep, you're right. Cobra is massive, and I didn't think about the fact that even if Gigan starts to saw him it isn't big enough to go through.

BUT

If Cobra crushes him, some of Gigan's multiple spikes can impale Cobra and do severe damage. I don't know a ton about snakes, but I do believe the have a spinal column. What happens if Gigan cuts through that?

Also, Cobra was essentially beaten with one beam from TOONGINO yes? He beams him in the face, tackles him, then when they both come up from the sea a few seconds later Cobra is either dead or knocked out in Toonzilla's mouth.

Megalon has enough firepower to hurt Cobra, and Gigan has tools to help. It is a close fight, but I'm on the fence again. You brought up some good points, so we'll see where it goes from here.

[Zardac the Great]

To be fair, that wasn't the first time Zilla beamed him in the face, and we don't see what happened under water.

[Tokyo VigilanteX]

Although, it's likely that Cobra can beat Megalon, I don't buy that he'll just beable to crush him and be done with it. Does anyone remember how much Megalon flails and jumps? How about trying to catch a flailing spastic twit without arms?

All it takes would be for Gigan to make even the slightest disabling blow before Gigan/Megalon begin plowing into Cobra. (Like what would happen with Jet Jaguar). Can Cobra recover and send them both fleeing and planless? Probably not.

[Zardac the Great]

Er...It's sort of hard to flail around with a giant snake hugging you.

[Tokyo VigilanteX]

My point is, it's hard to give a hug if the person you're molesting is flailing around screeching and spitting napalm.

What was Megalon's reaction to a panic scenario? drive his head into the ground. "Air Surf" swinging his big metal drill hands around, then dive underground.

[SpaceHunterM]

Ok I'm going to ignore Tokyo until he gets his eyes check or ACTUALLY watches the King Cobra Episode.


Peace? I declare Jihad!




The editing had nothing to do with our discussion actually, but if you want to blow yourself up I have no poblem :p



Yep, you're right. Cobra is massive, and I didn't think about the fact that even if Gigan starts to saw him it isn't big enough to go through.





Yes I am and I know :p

BUT


There's always a but


If Cobra crushes him, some of Gigan's multiple spikes can impale Cobra and do severe damage. I don't know a ton about snakes, but I do believe the have a spinal column. What happens if Gigan cuts through that?


What if Cobra see's the spikes on gigan and figures "Hey, maybe I'll just bite him once in the head and finish this." But seriously you exaggerate the number of spikes gigan has and however deadly they might be. As for Gigan somehow cutting Cobra's spine that is virtually impossible by the way Snakes, or KC at least, constricts its opponents. If you actually watch the fights again Cobra constricts bottom inward, far away from any potential spine damage. Also he didn't seem to be harmed by Toonzilla's far more impressive spine's when he constricted him so any of Gigan's smaller ones won't pose a threat.


Also, Cobra was essentially beaten with one beam from TOONGINO yes? He beams him in the face, tackles him, then when they both come up from the sea a few seconds later Cobra is either dead or knocked out in Toonzilla's mouth.
Wrong... Cobra was knocked out by Toonzilla underwater the three beams that hit his face beforehand hurt as they should have considering how beastly powerful they are, but Cobra was still hissing in anger looking relatively unharmed until he was tackled through the building and lost underwater. BTW please don't try and compare Megalon's beam to Toonzilla's...its insulting.


Megalon has enough firepower to hurt Cobra, and Gigan has tools to help. It is a close fight, but I'm on the fence again. You brought up some good points, so we'll see where it goes from here.

We're going backwards... though I'm happy I got your wrinkly old *** of the porch so much so that I'm hopeful I can actually get you into the car. Ignoring the inferiority of Megalon and Gigan to Robo Yeti and Toonzilla who KC would have been able to take out had it not been for human help. Megalon and Gigan do indeed have weapons that can harm Cobra. Will they be able to use them well enough to win? No, because they will charge in like the thugs they are get blinded, Panic, and DIE. Robo Yeti was COMPLETELY crushed to the point that his head popped off in under 5 seconds of constriction. The idea that two blinded thugs will be able to aid each other enough to avoid a similar fate is simply false.


-Loves and Kisses

SpaceHunterM

[KaijuKing]

I wouldn't be so quick to say that Cobra is too thick for Gigan to effectively saw into. We have to remember that the saw sliced through Showa Godzilla like butter, and his skin stood up to a hundred kinds of punishment over the years. Only two things I can think of ever made him bleed: Mechagodzilla's missile barrages, and Gigan's saw. And possibly one or two things I am forgetting.

Cobra, on the other hand, was easily kept at bay with a rifle. It was some sort of energy weapon, sure, but it was still a little hand-held gun. I sincerely doubt that it packed nearly as much punch as Ghidorah's beams, or Hedorah's, or any of the other beams that Showa Goji regularly withstood.

So my point is that Cobra does not appear to be all that resiliant. He took a few shots of Toonzilla's beam, but didn't that thing's power level fluctuate constantly? That may not be a very accurate way to judge his durability. I'd guess that the saw would annihilate him without much effort.

But as has been said, Cobra doesn't neccesarily need to constrict Gigan. A few well-placed bites would probably do the job. So I'm still thinking Cobra has the better odds here.

[SpaceHunterM]

KC wasn't kept at bay, he was just distracted from killing a few main characters. Besides That has nothing to do with the size of the saw vs. the massive girth of King Cobra. We all think it can cut him, it just isn't big enough to go deep enough to fatally wound Cobra. The fact is the saw blades just aren't that big.

[Tokyo VigilanteX]

We all think it can cut him, it just isn't big enough to go deep enough to fatally wound Cobra. The fact is the saw blades just aren't that big.
My position is likely an abstain, but I don't think you're considering the trauma of being hit by a buzzsaw. It's a cut that's being cut, that's being cut, that's being cut, in rapid succession. That's incredibly painful. It might not out right slice him in half (Which I think is absurd and would require Cobra being ****ing numb from the neck down), but it will HURT and he will be wary of attacking Gigan when he lets go.

[Hybrid Gojira]

The editing had nothing to do with our discussion actually, but if you want to blow yourself up I have no poblem :p

I know, I saw what was originally wrote and laughed.

Because you were right.

But still.

Jihad it is.

;)


What if Cobra see's the spikes on gigan and figures "Hey, maybe I'll just bite him once in the head and finish this." But seriously you exaggerate the number of spikes gigan has and however deadly they might be. As for Gigan somehow cutting Cobra's spine that is virtually impossible by the way Snakes, or KC at least, constricts its opponents. If you actually watch the fights again Cobra constricts bottom inward, far away from any potential spine damage. Also he didn't seem to be harmed by Toonzilla's far more impressive spine's when he constricted him so any of Gigan's smaller ones won't pose a threat.


Toonzilla's spines are as dull as butter knives.

I think.

If you have any info to the contrary, lemme see it.

Or.

Crap, why am I posting one sentence at a time now? I blame Burk for this!

But anyway.

It is a false assumption to say that because Toonzilla's spikes are sharp (which I don't think they are) and didn't cut Cobra that Gigan's suddenly won't. They will. They cut Ang and Godzilla just fine. IIRC, Anguirus charged at Gigan and Gigan turned on his saws. There goes the whole "Gigan won't use his saws" myth. Because he will. It's just a matter of how much damage they'll do.

Touche and on the spine, though. It won't be a factor unless Cobra is stupid.

Wrong... Cobra was knocked out by Toonzilla underwater the three beams that hit his face beforehand hurt as they should have considering how beastly powerful they are, but Cobra was still hissing in anger looking relatively unharmed until he was tackled through the building and lost underwater. BTW please don't try and compare Megalon's beam to Toonzilla's...its insulting.

Actually, Megalon's beam and his napalm are extrmely powerful.

And the fight that I saw with TZ and Cobra featured two beams. The rest of the other beams were in a different fight, yes? It went from night to day between the two fights.

No idea what happens underwater, except whatever it was took .02 seconds and wasn't good for Cobra.


The idea that two blinded thugs will be able to aid each other enough to avoid a similar fate is simply false.

How did Godzilla attack him if he was blind? I just watched the fight scenes. Was he using a sense of smell or some other ability I don't know about?

Because even while "blinded" Godzilla somehow followed him just fine.

[Inferno Rodan]

IIRC, Anguirus charged at Gigan and Gigan turned on his saws. There goes the whole "Gigan won't use his saws" myth. Because he will. It's just a matter of how much damage they'll do.
Gigan already had the saw activated long before Anguirus charged. He was standing between Ang and Godzilla, saw whirring, Ang trying to get around him before giving up and trying to go through him.

And unless King Cobra has a sudden Heisei Gamera-level bout of stupidity, he's not gonna try constricting Gigan while the saw is activated.

How did Godzilla attack him if he was blind? I just watched the fight scenes. Was he using a sense of smell or some other ability I don't know about?

Because even while "blinded" Godzilla somehow followed him just fine.
He was using both smell and hearing. He was shown sniffing the air when KC initially retreated before running off in the same direction, and in the second fight Nick made the comment that he was lashing out at sounds.

As for his durability, it should be noted that KC was one of the kaiju that survived the Tachyon Warships' blasts. Those things instantly killed a LOT of other monsters.

[Tomzilla]

Pardon me for not remembering every post in a thread from 9 months ago.

Consider yourself pardoned. ;)

After glancing over some of these posts, I'm wondering how many people voting are actually familiar with King Cobra and the G:TS kaiju.

[MirrenDono]

Not many, if you ask me.

[SuperXAsh]

Sticky goo to the eyes, while the two morons are trying to SEE again, Cobra sneaks up and bites them in the neck or coils around them, crushing them like an anaconda. And before you object, Gigan also seems to be VERY VERY picky with what he'll use his chest saw for... we only saw it like... twice in his debut movie. Never SAW it used again. EVER. Not even in the following movie when it'd probably be very useful on a giant robot.

So yeah... I'm pretty sure this trick will work on them regardless. Worked wonders on Zilla and Robo-Yeti, who was also robotic and made of metal, so I'm sure KC will be able to get at Gigan's neck.

[SpaceHunterM]

I know, I saw what was originally wrote and laughed.

Because you were right.

But still.

Jihad it is.

;)



You ain't the kwisatz haderach, but I appreciate the sentiment





It is a false assumption to say that because Toonzilla's spikes are sharp (which I don't think they are) and didn't cut Cobra that Gigan's suddenly won't. They will. They cut Ang and Godzilla just fine. IIRC, Anguirus charged at Gigan and Gigan turned on his saws. There goes the whole "Gigan won't use his saws" myth. Because he will. It's just a matter of how much damage they'll do.

Umm I thought you were talking about the small spines Gigan has on his back. Those never cut Goji or Ang... only the buzzsaw and getting stabbed in the head twenty times did that. We've already established that the saw isn't big enough to do fatal damage so I'm confused what you're going for.

Touche and on the spine, though. It won't be a factor unless Cobra is stupid.



Which he isn't... unlike his opponents :D

Actually, Megalon's beam and his napalm are extrmely powerful.


When compared to Toonzilla's breath? Hardly, and Megalon doesn't use them early enough for them to be a true factor.

And the fight that I saw with TZ and Cobra featured two beams. The rest of the other beams were in a different fight, yes? It went from night to day between the two fights.

No idea what happens underwater, except whatever it was took .02 seconds and wasn't good for Cobra.


The fight in the mountains and in Tokyo are practically the same fight imo considering the skirmish in the mountains ended with Cobra deciding that he wanted snacks and Toonzilla gave chase via scent. Even still he was was still able and eager to fight after the beams and was only knocked out (maybe he breathed is some water :O ) after being tackled through the bulding and whatever happened under water which ended with him in Zilla's jaws.



How did Godzilla attack him if he was blind? I just watched the fight scenes. Was he using a sense of smell or some other ability I don't know about?

Because even while "blinded" Godzilla somehow followed him just fine.


IR covered this already so I won't repeat it, but I hope you're gonna run out of straws to grasp at soon :p


Not many, if you ask me.
Even less before I started hounding people in each post >_>


Watch your cartoons people! Do it before TZ comes and shakes his head again making me feel bad for not arguing his side well enough. :(

[Angirus7899]

like i said before KC will squeeze megalon to death because lets face it megalon is pathetic without being controlled. gigan will be blinded and then i support the saw theory that it was used only twice and then he just stopped using it not to mention KC's hide is really thick and that saw doesnt look like an absolute kill shot to me. and to further say yes i still think he can bite gigan's head off he did it to robo yeti and gigan is part machine and the spikes on gigan's head will not be that big of a factor when KC bites down. so once again im going with KC killing the wonder idiots.

[Super Angillas]

Gigan doesn't need to cut KC in half. He just needs to cut enough to start shredding KC's guts, and then win as the snake lies on the ground writhing in agony and bleeding both internally and externally. The G the series Kaiju are not of the no sell conventional weapons varity. Their of the avoid or have a power that makes them hard to hit in the first place varity. KC is a fast basterd. But wrapping Gigan up is a perfect set up for bieng cut. KC has to react quickly. Now if he gets away relitivly uninjured, he won't make the same mistake twice, and will win easy. But his tactics make him vulnerable to counterattack in this case.