Who should compete?

[Orga777]

Here is the best way to do a Tooth and Nail Tourny. No beams at all and no kaiju that uses beams for 90% of their fighting allowed.


Showa Godzilla
Showa Gigan
Megalon
Titanosaurus
Showa Mothra
Showa Rodan
Showa Anguirus
Jet Jaguar
Showa Gamera
Guiron
Viras
Jiger
Gorosaurus
Toho King Kong
Showa King Seesar
Garia
Toho Frankenstein
Oodako
Heisei Rodan
Irys
Heisei Gamera
Megaguirus
GMMG Mothra
GMK Mothra
GMK Baragon
Orga
GFW Gigan
GFW Mothra
GFW Rodan
GFW Anguirus
GFW King Seesar
GFW Kamacuras


These are probably the better kaiju to use for such a tournament.

[Raptor]

Our illustrious stable of possible contenders.


All-terraintula
Anguirus (GFW) *
Anguirus (Showa) *
Bacillus (G: The Series)
Bagorah
Baragon (GMK) *
Baragon (Showa)
Barugon
Batragon (Marvel)
Battra
Black Widow (G: The Series)
Brown Gargantua (Sanda)
Buraki (Dragon Wars)
Burtannus
Chameleon Monster
Charles Barkley
Clover
The Colossus of Atlantis (H-B)
Creature of Living Flame aka Firefly (G: The Series)
Crustaceous Rex
Cyber-GINO
Cybersaur
Cykor (SSS - I Champion)
Dagarah
Death Ghidorah
Dogora
Dragma (G: The Series)
Dragon Zord (MMPR)
Ebirah (GFW)
Ebirah (Showa)
Eleking
The Energy Beast
The Firebird
Frankenstein *
Gabara
Gamera (Gamera the Brave)
Gamera (Showa) *
Gappa
Gekido-jin
Giant Bat (G: The Series)
Giant Scorpion (G: The Series)
Gigan (Showa) *
Gigan (ZF)
GINO (GFW/Zilla)
GINO (1998)
GINO (G: The Series)
Godzilla (1954)
Godzilla (2000)
Godzilla (DH)
Godzilla (GXM)
Godzilla (Marvel)
Godzilla (Showa) *
Godzilla Junior
Gorgo
Gorosaurus *
Green Gargantua (Gaira) *
Guilala
Gyaos (Showa)
Gyaos - Space
Hedorah (GFW)
Hero Zero (Dark Horse)
Imoogi (Dragon Wars)
Jet Jaguar *
Kamacuras (GFW) *
Kamacuras (Showa)
King Cobra
King Ghidorah (GMK)
King Ghidorah (Heisei)
King Ghidorah (ZF)
King Kong (Toho) *
King Seesar (GFW) *
King Seesar (Showa) *
Krollar (Marvel)
Kumonga (GFW)
Kumonga (Showa)
Lord Howe Monster
The Magnetic Terror (H-B)
Majin
Manda (GFW)
Manda (Showa)
Mecha-King Ghidorah
Mechani-Kong
Megaguirus *
Megalon *
Minya (GFW)
Minya (Showa)
Moguera (Showa)
Mothra (GFW) *
Mothra (GMK) *
Mothra (Heisei)
Mothra (Kiryu) *
Mothra (Rebirth) (Leo's Mother)
Mothra (Showa) *
Nanotech Creature (G: The Series)
Negadon
Norzzug
The One (Ultraman Next)
Pulgasari
Quetzalcoatl
Red Baron (Super Robot Red Baron)
Red Ronin (Marvel)
Reptilian
Reptilicus
Rhedosaurus
Rhiahn (Marvel)
Robo-Yeti (G: The Series)
Rodan (GFW) *
Rodan (Heisei) *
Rodan (Showa) *
The Seaweed Monster (H-B)
Shrewster
Skeetera
The Terror aka The Stranger (DH)
Titanosaurus *
Triax (Marvel)
Tyrannosaurus aka the Time Dragon (H-B)
Varan
Viras (Showa) *
Yetrigar (Marvel)
Yongary
Zarkorr
Zedus (Gamera the Brave)
Zigra (Showa)
Zone Fighter

* = Endorsed by Orga so you get the idea what we're aiming for. :p

If a kaiju might not be a good contender for this tournament, SAY SO.

[Excelsior]

Assuming we're going with a bracket of 32, here's my votes:

1. Anguirus (Showa) *
2. Baragon (GMK) *
3. Brown Gargantua (Sanda)
4. Clover
5. Ebirah (GFW)
6. Frankenstein *
7. Gamera (Showa) *
8. Gappa
9. Gigan (Showa) *
10. GINO (GFW/Zilla)
11. Godzilla (1954)
12. Godzilla (Showa) *
13. Gorgo
14. Gorosaurus *
15. Green Gargantua (Gaira) *
16. Gyaos (Showa)
17. Jet Jaguar *
18. Kamacuras (GFW) *
19. King Kong (Toho) *
20. King Seesar (GFW) *
21. Kumonga (GFW)
22. Majin
23. Manda (Showa)
24. Mecha-King Ghidorah
25. Mechani-Kong
26. Megalon *
27. Mothra (GMK) *
28. Rodan (Showa) *
29. Titanosaurus *
30. Viras (Showa) *
31. Zedus (Gamera the Brave)
32. Showa King Ghidorah

I tried not to duplicate unless I thought both versions would add flavor to the tourney.

[Super Angillas]

I was kinda hoping Showa Gomora would get in... Well I'll give it some thought.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

No Silvagon? Damn!!! I was hoping one of the Ultra T&C beasts would sneak in. They need a time to shine. They either get outbeamed in the DD, or banned from SSS.

I was hoping one of the MGs would sneak in. If Moguera got in, i don't why the rest can't. (It would be hilarious to see the latest DD champion gte beaten to a bloody (oily?) pulp by someone like Minya.

I think Battra's abit cheap since he's so freakin durable. But that's why I will vote for him.:p

In any case, I will prbably vote for the stronger ones, since most of the powerhouses have been ousted.

1. Battra
2. Gigan (Showa)
3. Godzilla (GxM)
4. Kumonga
5. Megaguirus
6. King Ghidorah (Showa)
7. King Cobra
8. Shrewster
9. Zone Fighter
10. Death Ghidorah
11. Eleking
12. Rodan (Heisei)
13. Titanosaurus
14. GINO (The series)
15. Jet Jaguar
16. Mecha-King Ghidorah
17. Rodan (Showa)
18. Gorosaurus
19. Anguirus (Showa)
20. Reptilian
21. Negadon
22. Megalon
23. Charles Barkley XD
24. The One
25. Gyaos (Showa)
26. Stranger
27. Gamera (the Brave)
28. Dragonzord
29. Majin
30. Gabara
31. King Seesar (Showa)
32. Imoogi (Dragon Wars)

[Raptor]

No Silvagon? Damn!!! I was hoping one of the Ultra T&C beasts would sneak in. They need a time to shine. We don't have a stat on Silvagon for DD purposes. ;)

If you'd like to see him compete in the future, start a thread IN THE DD-IX General forum.

[Tomzilla]

I'd love to see Silvagon compete. It'd be fitting for his 'DDish Debut' to occur in a T&C tournament. I believe Inferno Rodan has a youtube video of him in action we could use for those who've never had the privilege to see him in action.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Upon looing back, Silvagon may be too strong for an SSS. However, I think he'd be cool for a Desumacchi. He would give those 'beam-spammers that always win' a whole lot of trouble and be an interesting change of pace.

[SpaceHunterM]

IMO his impressive strength is completely countered by his stupidity... He makes Megalon look like Albert Einstein.

[SpaceHunterM]

King Cobra should be allowed in....and should win...that's all I'll say on the matter.

[Raptor]

The TIERS from DDX:

High Teirs:
2. Destroyah
3. Monster X
4. Grand King Ghidorah
5. Space Godzilla
7. Biollante
9. Irys
10. Heisei Gamera
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11. Ultraman - The Next
12. Kiryu-Godzilla
13. GMK Godzilla
14. Dagarah
15. Death Ghidorah
16. GFW Gigan
17. Heisei MOGUERA
18. Kiryu
19. The One
20. Heisei Mecha-Godzilla
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21. Negadon
22. Miroku
23. Heisei King Ghidorah
24. Heisei Godzilla
25. GXM Godzilla
26. Hyper Gyaos
27. G2K Godzilla
28. Rainbow Mothra
29. Orga
30. Gomora
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31. Barugon
32. Cykor
33. Reptilian
35. Showa Hedorah
36. Toon GINO
37. Zone Fighter
39. The Stranger (DH)
40. Showa Mecha-Godzilla
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41. Megaguirus
43. Pulgasari
45. Mecha-King Ghidorah
48. GFW King Seesar
50. Guilala
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52. GFW Anguirus
53. GFW Kamacuras
54. Yetrigar (Marvel)
55. Bagorah (DH)
56. King Cobra (GTS)
58. Guiron
59. Dragonzord
61. Showa Gyaos
62. (Heisei Rodan)
63. Battra


Low Teirs:
1. Titanosaurus
2. GMK King Ghidorah
3. Jiger
4. GMMG Mothra
5. Godzilla Jr.
6. Showa Rodan
7. GFW Kumonga
8. Gekido-Jin (DH)
9. Buraki
10. Jet Jagaur
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11. All-Terraintula (DH)
12. King Kong
13. Showa Mothra
14. Imoogi
15. Showa Gigan
16. Megalon
17. GFW GINO
18. Rhiahn (Marvel)
19. Gamera - Toto
20. Zedus
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21. Clover
22. Space Gyaos
24. Gorosaurus
25. Showa Kumonga
26. Cyber-GINO (GTS)
28. Green Gargantua (Gaira)
29. Showa King Seesar
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31. GMK Mothra
33. Frankenstein
34. Gorgo
36. Gabara
37. Zigra
39. Reptilicus
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41. Varan
42. GMK Baragon
44. Godzilla '54
45. Gappa
46. Showa Anguirus
47. Crustaceous Rex (GTS)
50. Batragon (Marvel)
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52. Showa Baragon
53. Mechani-Kong
54. Rhedosaurus
55. GFW Minya
58. Magma
64. Giant Octopus (Oodako)

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Megaguirus, Hedorah and Super Mechagodzilla are waay too low IMO. SMG should be in the top 10. And what is Hedorah doing below so many others? Monster X and Heisei Gamera are too high. Adn how is GFW Kumonga stronger than Showa Kumonga? Methinks you mixed 'em up.

My list would be very different from yours, that's for sure.


King Cobra should be allowed in....and should win...that's all I'll say on the matter.


I want him in too, along with a coupla other GTS monsters. Maybe we shoud start a petition for him...

[Super Angillas]

Okay, here I go....
1. Anguirus (GFW) *
2. Baragon (GMK) *
3. Dragon Zord (MMPR)
4. Eleking
5. Gigan (Showa)
6. Frankenstein *
7. GINO (G: The Series)
8. Godzilla (GXM)
9. Godzilla (Marvel)
10. Gorosaurus *
11. Jet Jaguar *
12. King Cobra
13. Megaguirus *
14. Red Baron (Super Robot Red Baron)
15. Red Ronin (Marvel)
16. Robo-Yeti (G: The Series)
17. Rodan (Showa) *
18. Titanosaurus *
19. Zigra (Showa)
20. King Kong (Toho) *
21. Megalon *
22. Godzilla (Showa) *
23. Gorgo
24. Kamacuras (Showa)
25. King Ghidorah (GMK)
26. Crustaceous Rex
27. Ebirah (GFW)
28. Gamera (Showa) *
29. King Seesar (Showa) *
30. Mothra (Showa) *
31. Reptilicus
32. Tyrannosaurus aka the Time Dragon (H-B)

[Orga777]

Get rid of GXM Godzilla, Marvel Godzilla, Red Ronin, and that HB kaiju that nobody knows about anyway and the roster would be set.

Perfect replacements?
1. Burtannus (DH)
2. Jiger
3. Guiron
4. GFW Kamacuras
5. Heisei Rodan

[Darth Reaper]

First, based on the title, I'm guessing this fight will involve tooth and claw fighting only. No beam weapons or projectiles. Am I right about that?

Second, I'd like to suggest putting the 1976/86 version of King Kong and the 2005 version of King Kong in the fight, scaled up accordingly of course. If Godzilla can have more than one version running around why not Kong?

[Super Angillas]

Get rid of GXM Godzilla, Marvel Godzilla, Red Ronin, and that HB kaiju that nobody knows about anyway and the roster would be set.

Perfect replacements?
1. Burtannus (DH)
2. Jiger
3. Guiron
4. GFW Kamacuras
5. Heisei Rodan

Uh, Orga, GFW Kamacuras and Hesei Rodan are on the potentials list.

[Raptor]

Here's the tally of the various ballots posted, discussion, etc.



Gigan (Showa) - 4
Gorosaurus - 4
Jet Jaguar - 4
Megalon - 4
Rodan (Showa) - 4
Titanosaurus - 4
Anguirus - 3
Baragon - 3
Frankenstein - 3
Gamera (Showa) - 3
GINO (G:TS) - 3
Godzilla (Showa) - 3
Kamacuras (GFW) - 3
King Cobra (G:TS) - 3
King Kong (Toho) - 3
King Seesar (Showa) - 3
Megaguirus - 3
Anguirus (GFW) - 2
Clover - 2
Dragon Zord (MMPR) - 2
Ebirah (GFW) - 2
Eleking - 2
Gorgo - 2
Green Gargantua (Garia) - 2
King Seesar (GFW) - 2
Kumonga (GFW) - 2
Majin - 2
Mecha-King Ghidorah - 2
Mothra (GMK) - 2
Mothra (Kiryu) - 2
Mothra (Showa) - 2
Rodan (Heisei) - 2
Viras (Showa) - 2
Battra - 1
Brown Gargantua (Sanda) - 1
Burtannus (DH) - 1
Charles Barkley (DH) - 1
Crustaceous Rex (G:TS) - 1
Death Ghidorah - 1
Gabara - 1
Gamera (Gamera the Brave) - 1
Gappa - 1
GINO (GFW/Zilla) - 1
Godzilla (1954) - 1
Godzilla (GxM) 2 -1 = 1
Gyaos (Showa) 1
Imoogi (Dragon Wars) - 1
King Ghidorah (GMK) - 1
King Ghidorah (Showa) 2 -1 = 1
Kumonga (Showa) - 1
Manda (Showa) - 1
Mechani-Kong - 1
Mothra (GFW) - 1
Negadon - 1
The One (Ultraman: the Next) - 1
Red Baron (Super Robot Red Baron) 1
Reptilian - 1
Reptilicus - 1
Robo-Yeti (G:TS) - 1
Rodan (GFW) - 1
Shrewster (G:TS) - 1
The Stranger (DH) - 1
Yongary - 1
Zedus (Gamera the Brave) - 1
Zigra (Showa) - 1
Zone Fighter - 1
Gamera (Heisei) 1 -1 = 0
Godzilla (Marvel) 1 -1 = 0
Guiron 1 -1 = 0
Jiger 1 -1 = 0
Red Ronin (Marvel) 1 -1 = 0
Tyrannosaurus (H-B) 1 -1 = 0
Gigan (GFW) 1 -2 = -1
Irys 1 -2 = -1
Giant Octopus (Oodako) 1 -3 = -2
Orga 1 -3 = -2

If someone wants to set the first round up, go for it.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

YES KING COBRA MADE IT!!!