Godzilla and mothra the battle for the earth

[SuperXAsh]

http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif oh boy...

First off... they shouldn't have even gone to the trouble of putting the Godzilla suit back on the actor for this one. I mean c'mon... he was given the shaft majorly in this film. About only 3-4 scenes had the Big G in this... and they were all in some way fighting related. That's what Godzilla was for this film... only an off again on again threat that just pads out the rest of what would be (aka: Should have been) basically a Mothra movie.

I take back what I said on the discussion about the fairies that tag along with the world's biggest sweater threat  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mothrasmilie.gif . While they are nowhere near as annoying as the Elias from Rebirth (very few things are...*twitch*), the Cosmos in GvsM2 walked a thin line... very thin line between annoyance and acceptance.

Egads... the human acting was atrocious, and I can't blame the Voice Actors for just working with what the Japanese Storyline gave them. I'd have a hard time acting (or voice acting for that matter) serious with the material given forth with this flick.

-Notes/Pokes of Fun:
-Notice how the Godzilla/Threat Surveillance HQ has to go through about 4-5 different FX screens just to pop on one little camera to watch the Big G walking out of the lava? I mean... where those neccessary?
-I don't know if this is a dubbing flub, but why would Godzilla surviving molten lava be surprisng to the scientists? I mean he survived the last time he got dumped into a Volcano... so why would anything be different or shocking?
-Few scenes showing the Mothra Larva form just scooting along the streets (quickly too) as if she were... yep you guessed it, just going along on wheels. Hell, it's sad when even the old Toho movies could make the Mothra Larva look more realistic (with various segments of his/her body rising up and down) than one made in the 90's. Though she was more active and lifelike during the sea battle.
-They were surprised that the military appeared to face Mothra... what were they expecting? The big frikkin' roller-pillar trashed through about 80% of the city... hardly a miltary action worthy trespass  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif .
-Always weird for a classic Godzilla fan to hear a roar they have always been used to hearing from just one (not to mention a well known one at that) monster. Imagine how it felt when I kept hearing Rodan's roar through out this flick? I had forgotten that part after seeing it the last time about 5 years ago. This is Toho, they could've and should've made-up a new roar for Battra. Not just used Stock Roars.
-Speaking of stock, many will undoubtedly notice that some of these scenes will be lifted for the future Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla movie two movies from this one.

All in all though, this was a huge MESSAGE movie, and falls into the category of films that constantly smacking you over yonder head with it as well. OK I get the picture Toho, "Save the Earth, Save the Earth!!!" Sing with me now!!!  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif

The Kennette in this flick was annoying... but nowhere near as annoying as the ALPHA Kenny from Gammera, The Invincible. That and she only appears for a few scenes, though she more than makes her annoying prescence known... oh yes... she does.  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

SXA's Grade: C+, Where do they keep finding these Japanese Twins?  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

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[Mothraleo]

<font color='#0000FF'>Shess. You guys act like its GINO or something. The film is not that bad. &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mothrasmilie.gif

[Mr. Camouflage]

Yeah guys come on. The story is interesting with the whole Battra thing. Its not the best but its no Godzilla's Revenge or Godzilla vs. Megalon at all.

[Showa Mothra #1]

The film is bad? It was only the most sucessful Hesei Godzila film.
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[SuperXAsh]

Well I can see where LK's getting at here. I mean, like I said, this should have been a Mothra movie... the Big G was only used to pad the movie with fight scenes so we can get to the next segment in what is basically Mothra's flick. He had no real reason being there, no true meaning or significance. He was just Padding Scene Fodder... and used as a means just to keep Battra busy throughout the movie till the end.

Not saying I didn't like the effects, hell they(the Mothra effects) are better than most of the effects used for the RoM series. Cept for the afore mentioned Larva in City effects... those were craptacular.

Godzilla's suit looks kickass as well, with the white-ish gray outlining on his spinal plates. I like detail work on many things... specially monster suits.

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[SpaceGamera]

Well, I liked this movie a lot. In fact, it's my favorite Heisei film. The music is quite good, and the I enjoyed the fights a lot as well, despite them being mostly beam wars. Battra was a nice addition to the mix, but I guess it would have been better if he had a different roar.

[Arose]

I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. *I don't think people realize Godzilla's position in the movie is a little more than to keep Battra busy until the final battle. *Godzilla is supposed to be the third peice to a three way battle. *A double threat, if you'd like. *Had Godzilla killed both Battra and Mothra, who would have stopped that meteor? *

While Godzilla's roll wasn't hardly fulfilled like it should have been, he was still there as the unknowning threat. *Had he killed both Mothra and Battra, then we'd have been royally screwed. *Had he just killed one of them during the battle in (insert cities name because I have forgotten) then I'm sure the other would have fallen shortly after.

[RadoGoji]

<font color='#FF7F00'>I for one thought it was an OK movie. While the plot was definately coming out as a &quot;save the earth&quot; message, the Cosmos got really annoying (they go on and tell what's happening about 10 minutes after the event happened), and there are some spots where the dialogue was kind of unneccessary (&quot;Oh no! They're getting pissed off!&quot;), I thought that Battra was pretty cool and that Mothra's antenna beams were a good addition to her arsenal of silk and powder. However, I do agree with SuperXAsh that Godzilla just kind of came out as a plot device.

And that's my two cents. http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Godzilla54]

I find this movie a little boring except for how the Godzilla suit *looked and Battra was a cool extra. *I must admit that the plot and dubbing where well bad.

[Arose]

I've never seen the dubbed version of Godzilla vs. Mothra. *I have, however, seen the subbed version courtesy of Revok online, years ago when they actually sold Goji films. *Its been awhile, but from what I remember the subs aren't too bad.

[The Reverend Tegoth]

Godzilla vs. Mothra (Heisei series, Dubbed version)

The last time I watched this movie, about a year ago, I can remember agreeing with all the people that hate it.

But something's happened to me since then. Despite having been watching Godzilla films basically since birth, I have only very recently come to grips with something...

I am a Mothra fan.

What can I say? I dig massive beautiful kaiju with little twin miniature Japanese girls that sing pretty ballads. It's weird and different enough to appeal to me.

With that in mind I went back and rewatched this movie yesterday, and to my surprise, I enjoyed the heck out of it. Oh sure, there are way, way too many strings in shot to be acceptable... and Godzilla basically makes a cameo in the picture... and the character's aren't so hot... But with those criticisms aside, I think this film is a real gem in the Heisei series.

The effects work throughout is, for the most part, top notch, with some wonderful bluescreen work that puts similar shots in later Heisei movies to shame. Literally every seen of destruction and kaiju combat in this movie is a joy to behold, with the only real problem being those damned strings supporting the flying forms of Battra and Mothra. Although they weren't as constantly visible as I remembered them being they are still horrendously distracting, and succeed in pulling you out of the movie on numerous occassions.

Highlights of the effects sequences include the Mothra Larva ocean battle with it's impressive sprays of missiles, and awesome explosion as Mothra just plows right through the command ship.

In fact, the kaiju fights with the military almost steal the show from the kaiju on kaiju fights in this movie, as Godzilla vs. the Maser squad is also a standout sequence. I especially enjoyed the very cool maser-copters added in this film.

Character-wise, we have a big &quot;meh&quot;. I never really felt any connection to anyone in this film at all. I found them all likable enough, but for the most part everyone just seems to stand around reacting to everything instead of actually accomplishing anything useful.

And, as usual for a Heisei movie, the dubbing takes a great deal away from what is there, character-wise.

And, again, if you are not a Mothra fan, STAY AWAY! The movie is probably about 80% a Mothra movie, and 20% a Godzilla movie. Personally, I expected it going in and was fine with that. If you're not a Mothra fan then chances are you won't be, and I would suggest avoiding the film (although Godzilla is really cool when he does appear) altogether.

I've got to say this is also possibly my all-time favorite Ifukube score. Wonderful the entire way through and filled with marches that get your blood-pumping and awesome destruction sequences made haunting and surreal by the Mothra ballads playing in the background.

With an interesting plot, some spectacular effects, and possibly the best Godzilla score ever, Godzilla vs. Mothra is one of the most underappreciated Godzilla films ever, and deserves much more praise then it recieves. What it all comes down to is that even with those damn strings and the lacking character development, this film still comes across as one of the most polished films of the entire Heisei series.

Final Score: *** 1/2 out of *****

P.S. - I want to add that it does really suck that Toho didn't give Battra it's own roar. That's just pure laziness on the part of the filmmakers, right there.

[Mothraleo]

<font color='#0000FF'>I thought it was nice to hear Rodans roar lol. I didn't really care with the roar. Battra is cool and one of my fav heisei kaiju. I don't see how his imago is weaker though, it may be, but who cares. As with you TRT, I am a Mothra fan so I don't care Godzilla doesn't get to much fotage in it. The one thing which is slitly anoying, is the bridge and indian jones feal. If only Ishiro had been around for the heisei series, things could have been differentally. &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/battrasmilie.gif

[GMAN2887]

Well i wont right a full out review, but I'll give my small take on the film. Lets start with the little things. While the effects weren't the worst I've seen, they were pretty bad overall. It seems Kawikita decided to be lazy after he won his academy award for &quot;Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah&quot; a year before this film. The battles were cool for the beam war that it was. More buildings falling over on mosnters and such. As plain as it seemed I enjoyed it.
The characters I also feel had some waisted potential. I beleive these characters could've been some of the best of the series, and in some aspects you are. But agree some poloshing needed to be done. Something else should've been done for them during the final battle instead of them standing from a ledge yelling &quot;Don't give up Battra!&quot;
As for Okawara's directing, this was his second film and his first Godzilla film. He showed potential with this movie and had a pretty clear and straight-foward movie with few plot-holes. It really isn't a bad movie overall, but his invisioning has its pros and cons.
Pros-
He knew how to set up and characterize the monsters well.
His human characters had great potential.
He knows how to make a movie overall entertaining in many aspects.
Cons-
His liking for western filmmaking hinders him as he clearly rips off of Indiana Jones at the beginning.
He doesn't know what to do with his characters in the end of his story.
He tends to never make it clear who is the 'star' of his movies at times. It's more evident here than others, but that's where his entertainment skills come in handy and we can forget that.

&quot;Godzilla and Mothra: The Battle for Earth&quot; isn't a terrible movie, I don't think it as one of the worst Godzilla films and at times I feel its a tad underrated. Akira Ifukube won an Academy Award for his score for this film and it was the highest grossing Heisei Godzilla film. It's pretty decent, I don't put it up all that high on my list, but it's not near as bad as the mess that &quot;Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla&quot; was.

[kent]

I have to agree with SuperXAsh that Godzilla was just a plot device in the film. And that reminds me...isn't there another movie that comes to mind when Godzilla is also used as a plot device? If you said Godzilla X Megaguirus, you are correct. Godzilla was also a plot device in that film also it the film was a slight disappointment.
But back to Godzilla Vs. Mothra. The movie, I felt, wasn't all that bad. Although the actors didn't seem like they were the best qualified for their parts. It was a good film, but with Godzilla being a plot device and Mothra being the main attraction, it just was a little disappointing in that sense.

[GMAN2887]

Quote[/b] (kent @ Feb. 05 2004,23:50)]I have to agree with SuperXAsh that Godzilla was just a plot device in the film. And that reminds me...isn't there another movie that comes to mind when Godzilla is also used as a plot device? If you said Godzilla X Megaguirus, you are correct. Godzilla was also a plot device in that film also it the film was a slight disappointment.
But back to Godzilla Vs. Mothra. The movie, I felt, wasn't all that bad. Although the actors didn't seem like they were the best qualified for their parts. It was a good film, but with Godzilla being a plot device and Mothra being the main attraction, it just was a little disappointing in that sense.
Your joking right? Godzilla was the primary purpose and target of the movie. It had more to do with ridding Godzilla than anything else.
Now &quot;Godzilla x MechaGodzilla&quot; was a movie that seemed to not put Godzilla in the spotlight-- it was Kiryu's movie there. &quot;Godzilla x Megagirus&quot; on the other hand was nearly all Godzilla. Megagirus was hardly a focus in the movie.

[kent]

Of course they still go after Godzilla, because the main character has a hatred for him. I do admit that the story was centered around Godzilla, but the screen time and the way the story was told was very bad. Godzilla is the key in the movie, but the limited time on screen and the bad story telling to keep him as the center of attention was gone about the wrong way.
Plus, the Dimension tide took a whole chunk of the film as well explaining all the hub-bub of the device. The story was told in the wrong fashion.

[kpa]

Quote[/b] (Gman2887(II) @ Feb. 06 2004,15:52)]Quote[/b] (kent @ Feb. 06 2004,00:19)]True Godzilla was a focus in Godzilla X Megaguirus, but his appearances were limited. And the main character's hatred for Godzilla, seem to be too much of a distraction at times.
Megaguirus wasn't hardly a focus of the movie? Once the Shibuya district was flooded and the Megagnurons awoke Megaguirus, Megaguirus became almost the center of attention.
Megagirus was hardly ever the center of attention. He was a side show to the G-Graspers who decided to discard any possability of Megagirus becoming a reality. Once she appeared, the G-Graspers still focused on Godzilla and prepared to battle with him when he was to land at Tokyo. Then Megagirus comes in to start a battle, which generally was her only purpose in the movie. No mention of a threat to humanity, no focus on how to destroy it by the G-Graspers, no plan to get rid of it...etc...etc...Monsters like Destroyah, King ghidorah and even SpaceGodzilla had more purpose behind their role than to just have a mud wrestle with Godzilla.
I agree with you Gman2887(II), Godzilla is totally the focus of GxM and Megaguirus is little more than a distraction in the story. The motivation of every main character (except the little boy) *and the sole purpose of the Dimension Tide is to stop Godzilla (not Megaguirus). After Megaguirus surfaces there is no military action taken; she's more or less forgotten until she returns to attack Godzilla. The biggest proof that she was not the focus of the film is that the movie continues for another 10 or 15 minutes after she's destroyed and no one mentions her in all that time.

On the other hand is GxMG where the spotlight is on Mechagodzilla and Godzilla is pushed to the side. Here's what director Masaaki Tezuka said about that: &quot;I wanted to tell the story of Kiryu [Mechagodzilla] and Akane [Yumiko Shaku], and I think I accomplished that. But, I only focused on Godzilla for the first 10 minutes of the film. As a result, I think his presence was kind of subdued.&quot;

[Keizer Godzilla (OPG)]

I liked it.Good effects good monster battles and a pretty good story.Hesie mothra was a real treat and it was a great hesie movie.

[china]

<font color='#F52887'>I like it a lot!!! I liked the human story involving the broken family and how they were reunited under terrible circumstances. The little girl was very good I thought. Not like other kids in these movies when they make them way too smart and unreal. And Mothra was great as always. Battra was also a cool character. Very good movie!!! &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mothrasmilie.gif

[Kappa the water imp]

Godzilla vs Mothra is excellent. It's got pace, good INTERESTING charecters. Battras a good idea, and Godzilla is at his best in some parts of the movie. It's a bit cheesey but it's fun and good to watch.

[Roehm]

Im sorry folks I didn't really like this movie, in fact it was so bad that it almost doesn't rate as a Godzilla movie to me. Just a terrible prequel to an even worst Mothra heisei trilogy &nbsp;http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif . Ohh and the whole this being the most popular Godzilla heisei movie. The only reason for that are the rediculous number of Mothra fans. Im not trying to show any hate toward the people who like mothra, but I hate mothra (except the showa mothra). I also agree that Godzilla was padding for this movie, but he was not padding in Godzilla vs. Megaguirus.

P.S. If anyone asks if I have seen the Mothra trilogy I have, I own the first movie and seen parts of the other two. They are so bad I can't even sit through them.

[rodan70]

<font color='#810541'>Well, the whole Battra having Rodan's roar, I noticed that too. King Ghidorah from Godzilla vs. Fing Ghidorah also had a Sped-Up version of rodan's roar, too

[Gojira2000]

<font color='#0000FF'>I like the film a lot. Okay--it's not the best of the Heisei series, and doesn't have the best SFX, and the last battle is a little boring, and the battle/Battra theme is played a little to much and you're able to see the cables quite a bit, but other then that, it's great and fun movie and I like it, the Godzilla suit, and the Mothra and Battra as well. &nbsp; http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Mothraleo]

<font color='#0000FF'>Okay, forget what I said, I just watched it, and Hate it. It stinks ( because I can't come to say that other word right now).

[Kappa the water imp]

Hi , i'm back, any ways &nbsp;I love this G movie it's a crack, it's good fun, well paced it's good in my opinion.

[PyrasTerran]

Quote[/b] ]Okay, forget what I said, I just watched it, and Hate it. It stinks ( because I can't come to say that other word right now).

Talk about a 180 degree turn.



It seems kent has once again said an unpopular statement, with teh GXM focuses and whatnot. Don't worry, you'll get 'em soon enough.



I am a fan of Mothra, and as such, this film wasn't bad for me. I was very dissapointed in a second viewing that I could see so many strings(in my DVD version), but I do enjoy the soundtrack enough, and to me, music is very important in a movie.

Crazy Note: This is the only Heisei movie my mom actually sat down and saw, and liked.

It's my second favorite Mothra film behind GMK

[Mothraleo]

Quote[/b] (PyrasTerran @ April 10 2004,16:39)]Quote[/b] ]Okay, forget what I said, I just watched it, and Hate it. It stinks ( because I can't come to say that other word right now).

Talk about a 180 degree turn.



It seems kent has once again said an unpopular statement, with teh GXM focuses and whatnot. Don't worry, you'll get 'em soon enough.



I am a fan of Mothra, and as such, this film wasn't bad for me. I was very dissapointed in a second viewing that I could see so many strings(in my DVD version), but I do enjoy the soundtrack enough, and to me, music is very important in a movie.

Crazy Note: This is the only Heisei movie my mom actually sat down and saw, and liked.
<font color='#0000FF'>I did not like it as much as I thought. It falls some where around the bottom of my list though. The final Battle it good though.

[mechagodzilla3]

<font color='#48CCCD'>How do you rate this movie.

[mechagodzilla3]

<font color='#48CCCD'>Whops this has alredy been posted. Would a Moderator delete this

[SuperXAsh]

Effects were great? I guess some people find remote control race car caterpillars as exciting and top notch effects. It just seems like this to me:

FX Crew member: Ok... we've done a great job with the water battle scene. Mothra looked very lifelike, and almost fluid motion. So... what have we got for the model needed in the city scenes?
FX Crew member2: Ummm... you see... we blew some of the budget on an all night sake binge and... well... we were too busy nursing hangovers to really work on the Mothra larva model for the city scenes.
FX Crew member: What? How could this be? You idiots!!! What will we use now?
.........
FX Crew member3: Umm... my son has a remote control race car.
FX Crew member:........ ....... remote control race car?
FX Crew member3: uhhh... yeah?
FX Crew member: .... BRILLIANT!!!

:kinggoji: :gamera: :kingkong:

[Cole Deschain]

To say nothing of the adult form's stiff-legged flying posture.

[Mothraleo]

Toho should have released it in 93, like there teaser trailers said. Then mabey things would have been slightly, just slightly better.

[kent]

Talk about a 180 degree turn.



It seems kent has once again said an unpopular statement, with teh GXM focuses and whatnot. Don't worry, you'll get 'em soon enough.




All of the sudden statements are either popular or unpopular? At least I speak my mind and don't go with the flow of the group if I think otherwise. Everyone says "unpopular" statements. You may disagree with what I say and that's fine. But saying statements are either popular or unpopular is completely BS people.

[Michiru]

I liked Godzilla vs. Mothra, I thought it was the best of the Heisei Godzilla series along with the first two entries.

[HolyGoji777]

he makes some good points but this is wayyyy better than gvskg

[EternalMothra]

Godzilla and Mothra: BFE is one of my favorite Godzilla movies. I would have preferred more physical battling, but hey I liked it. I especially liked the musical score for the movie. Mothra's songs were done really well. This movie recieved the greatest amount of money in the box office. The only thing that irritates me about the movie is Miki Saegusa. She is always concerned about Godzilla. Finally, when Mothra and Battra defeat Godzilla she's smiling.....:eh: Well, I think the movie is all right, what do other people think about the movie???

[The Great MM]

Mothra was cool, and the special effects were ok. Battra is the true star, IMO, even better then Mothra. But Toho should have come up with something better then lame eye beams, maybe a beam from his horns. Anyway...

7.5/10

[baragon2005]

Well, I've never seen the Japanese version, but I do have Sony's VHS release with the awful international dubbing, which instantly turns me away from the film.

Other than that, I didn't find the characters very interesting, and the monster action wasn't the best. Also, it tried to be suspensful, but just came off stupid because of the triple way beam battle. So, yeah, I didn't like it.








:baragon:

[Flame]

To be honest this is my least favorite of the Heisei series. I hate Mothra seriously ask anybody who knows me and I watch the movie once in a while to see Mothra get beaten up by Godzilla. Battra he was way cooler than Mothra was even though the fight was unfair because it was doubleteaming him.:devil: AARRGGHHHH!

[Baryonyx13]

Not much more I can say, it was pretty lame. Only Godzilla movie I fell asleep watching, and then didn't bother to rewatch what I had missed.

[Mothraleo]

It is okay. Avarage. Compaired to Biollante, G84, and even King Ghidorah, Mothra:Battle for Earth is only so so as I said. Mechagodzilla 2 and Destroyah are also better IMO. But this is better than Spacegodzilla in my book. SFX are 2nd worse of the Heisei series, characters are okay, and it does have some boring parts to it (a lot of human stuff) but at least this one can keep its story strait (unlike Spacegodzilla).

Rating- 5/10

[kent]

I looked at the film as more of a remake of Mothra than anything else. Godzilla hardly got any screen time. The movie itself is entertaining but I found the characters to be dull and unmemorable. That little girl, though, really got on my nerves. The battles were decent and pretty entertaining. Overall, not the best Godzilla film but a ways from being the worst.

3/5

[Cole Deschain]

Terrible Mothra puppetry. Absolutely terrible. So stiff, so lifeless... Which is really bad, considering that Mothra's the "hero."

Battra, a far better-executed monster, was the only thing I consistently hear any praise for from this movie.

[PyrasTerran]

Battra's Imago puppeteering was horrid for me, on account of stiff legs.

Not too bad a movie in my opinion, it was the most successful of the Heisei films, and while one reason was Mothra, it still can't be all bad. The Mothra/Battra relation was pretty interesting, though I don't believe Battra was used to his full potential in Imago form.

6-7/10

[anguirus55]

This was the movie where Toho stumbled...nevertheless, Godzilla's volcano exit was pretty good, and this is has the first "Toho kid" (er, girl Kenny maybe?) in history that didn't annoy the piss out of me.

[Gojira2000]

I like the movie. I liked it more years ago when I was younger, but now not so much. Battra's a very cool kaiju if I do say so, and Godzilla looks great. Mothra too looks very nice. The music is very good, as is all of Ifukube's work. However, although the 'ending roll', Mothra's song, main title, and really everything else is very good in itself, he seemed to use the themes a little to much. I know, Akira is know for useing the same theme in a film over and over, and I don't mind it at all. But this time, like his GvsD score, his 'Battra theme' and 'battle music' seemed to over used. I too would have like to have seen a little more 'tooth and claw' battling, but hey, this the Heisei Series:laugh: . Miki I also hate. The SFX are good, as I really like the under water battle between Goji and Battra; that's the best up to that point (and really only) under water battle since EHOTD. And Mothra's hatching into an adult moth was was very nicely done. Other SPFX won't much of anything to write home about. The film also seemed a slow. I guess I just have to be in the mood to really enjoy watching it. Overall, a great movie, although I don't see why this film did the best at the box office when others, like GvsMG2, were better films.

[Mothraleo]

^ Mechagodzilla II did very well. Biollante bombed. The reson Battle for Earth did so well, is because women wanted Mothra again. They got Mothra. Thats also why Godzilla isn't the main character, Mothra is.

[EternalMothra]

I like the movie, it's just the puppetry is very, very poor. For such great props and suits you think that they would spend a little more time and make it look more realistic. Like Mothra and Battra for example, great props, poor puppetry, they don't look like their flying, and their legs don't move. They look practically lifeless. Well, the movie did earn a lot of money. I'm glad Mothra was the main character of the movie, women got her back, I think that they deserve a monster that they can enjoy. Most men enjoy like King Ghidora, Godzilla, and Rodan(they're some who like Mothra; like me for instance) Mothra I think is a great monster and a great rival for Godzilla, the puppetry just could have used a little more time.

[Excelsior]

I've always had a different take on the movie - I think Mothra is actually the villain of the film, and Battra the hero. Go with me on this.

1) Mothra's people tried to control the weather, which prompted the Earth to create Battra. Now, why would the Earth go to so much trouble unless the planet was in serious danger? Battra was never summoned to battle Godzilla, or Ghidorah, or any creature that might have been seen as a threat. That leads me to believe that Mothra, and her people, were about to destroy the Earth (albeit probably unintentionally).

2) Mothra's reviving of Battra always seemed odd to me, thanks to the sequence the events happen in. Battra was stunned, possibly even seriously hurt, when Mothra overlapped their wings and shared her energy. I think she also worked a little mojo on Battra's mind (did you hear his roar of protest when the energy surges start?) At no other time did she try to "talk it over" with him, try to put their differences behind them. She waited until he was weakened and couldn't fight her. Which led to...

3) Notice how she and Battra carried Godzilla to the sea? She took the tail - nice and safe. She gave Battra the end with the fangs and the heat ray. Sneaky, and led to the death of her mortal foe.

Just throwin' some thoughts out there.

[EternalMothra]

Hmm, I guess you have a point there. I do although believe, yes, the Cosmos almost destroyed the Earth, and now they are being more careful about what they do. I do definately agree with you though. O and about the Mothra taking up the tail end of Godzilla thing, is because Mothra can't lift as much weight as Battra, and Battra has longer legs to reach around Godzilla's fat body....

[Excelsior]

Hmm, I guess you have a point there. I do although believe, yes, the Cosmos almost destroyed the Earth, and now they are being more careful about what they do. I do definately agree with you though. O and about the Mothra taking up the tail end of Godzilla thing, is because Mothra can't lift as much weight as Battra, and Battra has longer legs to reach around Godzilla's fat body....

Yeah, I bet that's how she rationed it to Battra, too. :)

[Desu-Goji]

I'm sorry but this movie bores me, its got good potential put was put to waste, the story was good, but was executed horribly IMO. Spacegodzilla was more enjoyable film but had a bad story, kinda funny.

[Legionmaster]

the story was good, i liked the music, some of the characters were ok, but the thing that bugs me is battra (hah! get it!) for the weapon of the earth, he didn't seem to be too powerful. so he blasts some tanks and wrecks a city, every monster can do that. also, he lacked in the weapons area.

[Excelsior]

the story was good, i liked the music, some of the characters were ok, but the thing that bugs me is battra (hah! get it!) for the weapon of the earth, he didn't seem to be too powerful. so he blasts some tanks and wrecks a city, every monster can do that. also, he lacked in the weapons area.

Well, he wasn't designed to fight humans or their creations. He was created specifically to destroy Mothra, and he seemed well equipped to do that.

[Legionmaster]

Well, he wasn't designed to fight humans or their creations. He was created specifically to destroy Mothra, and he seemed well equipped to do that.

he was created to destroy the advanced civilization, not mothra. he just went overboard, so mothra had to stop him. what i'm saying is, he's a dark mothra, so shouldn't he have had as many/similar weapons as her?

[EternalMothra]

Battra was created by the Earth to protect it from anything that threatens it. Mothra cares about the Earth also, but she also cares for humanity as well, they are very similar in nature, but Battra has more of a feirce attitude than Mothra does.

Battra wanted to destroy the Cosmos, because they were controlling Earth's climate. Mothra had to protect her people, and since she cared about the Earth as well she probably destroyed the climate controllers.

[Aragorn_Strider22]

2) Mothra's reviving of Battra always seemed odd to me, thanks to the sequence the events happen in. Battra was stunned, possibly even seriously hurt, when Mothra overlapped their wings and shared her energy. I think she also worked a little mojo on Battra's mind (did you hear his roar of protest when the energy surges start?) At no other time did she try to "talk it over" with him, try to put their differences behind them. She waited until he was weakened and couldn't fight her. Which led to...
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Yeah, I've always thought that as well.

[Godzilla40000]

Im thinking of buying GvsM , I wont to mow what you think of it . P.S, where can I get a good DVD of GvsM?;)