Toon Zilla Kaiju vs Toho Millennium Kaiju

[IceDragon2]

This is my first thread so enjoy! :)

Toon Zilla's team includes...

Toon Zilla
Cyber Zilla
Quetzalcoatl
El Gusano (giant worm)
Giant Bat


Toho's team includes
Godzilla (G 2000)
Kiryu version 2
Orga and his UFO
GMK Mothra



Battlefield: Monster Island (from Godzilla the Series)

Rules...
1. Kiryu has unlimited energy and Akane is his pilot
2. The monsters are not scaled
3. THere are 2 leviathan spaceships that will fire at all non toon zilla kaiju


With that being said, let the battle begin!:darklord:
(I really need to figure out how to add a poll).

[DinoGeekProductions]

Well, GMK Mothra might be a weak link, but even with the toon kaiju's support the Toho Kaiju have it. Cyber-Godzilla outranks Kiryu in speed, but Kiryu's got more firepower and can fly, Godzilla and Orga both regenerate. As much as I love the toon kaiju designs, they're going to get slaughtered.

The only thing the Toho team has to worry about is what Giant Bat's shreik could do to Kiryu (if anything at all. I really don't know).

[Zardac the Great]

Kiryu does not fly in combat. He actually flies exactly once in both movies combined, and that was when he was berzerk and suicidal at the end of Tokyo SOS.

He mainly uses his jets to manuever, stand up, and charge. When he charges, he is slightly airborne, but its more hovering than true flight.

G2K is powerful and does regen, but he tends to sit there, as does Orga. They're like a couple of Apocalypse tanks that the Soviets just leave in the middle of the map. Yeah, they're powerful, but they're not particularly useful if they're not fighting. I'm more worried about the UFO. Probably because I can't remember how strong it is.

I actually do see the bat effecting Kiryu fairly badly, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why.

G2K won't be able to burn Q. I'm not sure about how the other beams would effect her, but I'm pretty sure about that.

Since there are endless possible permutations of this battle, I'm going to deal with the individual fights as they're listed in the first post, and try to guess what the Leviathan aliens will do.


1) G2K vs Zilla
I'm sure everyone expects this to be a blow out. I'm not sure. Godzilla is a tank with an ouchy beam cannon. That takes forever to charge. This Godzilla appears to be...er...not overly intelligent. Zilla completely outclasses him in terms of intelligence, speed, and manuverability.

I doubt Godzilla can nail Zilla with his beam. He will try repeatedly, though, thereby losing the initiative in the battle. Which is how he's used to fighting anyway. Zilla will be all up in Godzilla's face until and unless he sees a certain yellow glow, and he will recieve his share of physical wounds. Both Godzilla and Zilla regenerate, so the biting and such that will occur won't actually do much to either side.

Which means that Zilla can't really hurt Godzilla. Godzilla can hurt Zilla, but what I really see happening is this fight stalemates until one of the three UFOs show up. Probably a Leviathan ship, I'm thinking, so probably Zilla wins on an assisted KO.

Cyber Zilla vs. Kiryu.

I would pay to see this fight. Unfortunately for Team Zilla, this is an island, not a city. Kiryu and CyberZilla will pummel each other with missiles, with Kiryu taking more hits percentage wise, but nobody's going to be missing too much. Add to that Kiryu's (probable) defensive superiority, and his firepower advantage, and seven out of ten times, Kiryu wins. The only way I see CyberZilla winning is if he hits Kiryu's neck (not a difficult thing to imagine) with his breath or a lucky missile that severs the control wires. I do see Kiryu as the Leviathan's second most important target, so if he can survive, Cyber-Zilla may get a lucky win.

Q vs Orga & UFO

Due to the UFO quickly assassinating El WormGuy, Q has to take on both. She might be able to handle the UFO, but luckily for her, I think that the Leviathan aliens are going to see another UFO as the most dangerous enemy on the field, and thus their most important target. Don't know how that turns out, but with two to one odds there, plus a monster helping, I think the Leviathans probably win that fight. For the sake of argument, let's say they lose one ship, so they have one ship left, who either shoots Orga because he's close, or goes after Kiryu. It's up in the air, and I can't call this fight. Orga's beam would knock Q around, but that may be all, and I don't know how her beam would effect Orga.

GMK Mothra vs. the Bat

Er...Joker Toxin for the win. GMK Mothra is tough. She survived a direct hit from GMK Godzilla's breath. And then still flew. Unfortunately, her best weapon here is her shotgun blast. Its the only way I see her beating the Bat, and its also the only thing I see damaging either fighter in this duel. I don't think that Bat Breath will bother the Moth, and I don't think anything but the shotgun will hurt the bat.

Only problem is, it seems to be a one time deal, and with an areal opponent, she might miss. Most likely outcome: Mothra shreds the Bat's wings with a shotgun, then enters the fray as a target, probably taking Zilla's breath instead of Godzilla.

[IceDragon2]

Kiryu does not fly in combat. He actually flies exactly once in both movies combined, and that was when he was berzerk and suicidal at the end of Tokyo SOS.




Actually, Kiryu does fly more than once in both movies. Kiryu flew when
1. He used a speed blitz against Godzilla in GxMG.
2. He carried Godzilla out of the city to use the AZC.
3. At the end of Tokyo SOS.

There may be other instances but I don't remember Tokyo SOS well, just GxMG.


Godzilla is a tank with an ouchy beam cannon. That takes forever to charge


Godzilla has shot his beam without charge before. Right after Goji shook Orga loose after Orga drained his DNA, Orga tried to bite Goji again. Goji prevented that by shooting a quick beam without charge.


Cyber-Godzilla outranks Kiryu in speed


Actually, I thought Kiryu was faster to be honest. Whenever Kiryu uses a speed blitz, he goes so so fast, blur lines come out. Kiryu has also dodged Goji's tail swipe and beam before as well as several other attacks. Cyber Zilla wasn't really seen dodging anything, just pursuing people.


I doubt Godzilla can nail Zilla with his beam.


Why? Last time I checked, a beam travels far faster than any missile (especially slower moving missiles going in a straight line that cannot lock on to target as used in both the GINO movie and a few times in G:TS).
I'm just curious.

[Zardac the Great]

Actually, Kiryu does fly more than once in both movies. Kiryu flew when
1. He used a speed blitz against Godzilla in GxMG.
2. He carried Godzilla out of the city to use the AZC.
3. At the end of Tokyo SOS.

There may be other instances but I don't remember Tokyo SOS well, just GxMG.


None of those are true flight except for #3. He can hover, yes, and he does, often while charging forward, as I said. but while he does that, he's barely airborne. See your #2 for that example. Point #1 is a controled landing that morphed into an attack. Falling more slowly than gravity wants you to is not true flight.


Godzilla has shot his beam without charge before. Right after Goji shook Orga loose after Orga drained his DNA, Orga tried to bite Goji again. Goji prevented that by shooting a quick beam without charge.


I will bow to your superior knowledge here, as it has been forever since I saw Godzilla 2000, but I sure don't remember snap shots.


Actually, I thought Kiryu was faster to be honest. Whenever Kiryu uses a speed blitz, he goes so so fast, blur lines come out. Kiryu has also dodged Goji's tail swipe and beam before as well as several other attacks. Cyber Zilla wasn't really seen dodging anything, just pursuing people.


Well, cartoon teleportation that lets a monster swim from the south pacific to London, Moscow, or Washington in an episode aside, I still say CyberZilla's faster. Kiryu can travel very quickly, but those jet assisted charges and side steps are rare. They do happen, but not very frequently.


Why? Last time I checked, a beam travels far faster than any missile (especially slower moving missiles going in a straight line that cannot lock on to target as used in both the GINO movie and a few times in G:TS).
I'm just curious.

Zilla has dodged beams before. I have not seen anywhere near the entire series, but I only remember him being hit with 1) Gobs of glue and 2) Alien ship beams.

Zilla has insane dodging and tunelling abilities. He's also very fast and very manueverable. Add his intelligence to the mix, and when he sees Godzilla's back (and mouth) start glowing, he's going to know what's coming.