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The Great MM
March 13th, 2004, 07:56 PM
Besides the questions "what monsters will be in it" and "what cities" the most important question is...Will Godzilla Die? What do you think?
I think he will, in a giant battle or after a battle he is to hurt that not even his regeneration can help and he dies....or maybe he will just go to sea...who knows....
Jet Jaguar
March 13th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Giant Radioactice Lizards have been almost IMPOSSIBLE to kill, so I don't think so. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
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The Great MM
March 13th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Tell that to Godzilla 1954 and Godzilla Heisei, they will say something different, if he dies, I hope its sad even to the point where it effects Non G fans or even Godzilla Haters.
Jet Jaguar
March 13th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Oh, he was killed in those films,but has still come back in one form or another.
And he will again http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
March 13th, 2004, 08:08 PM
I think they will have him die in the movie
Mecha-Rodan
March 13th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Yes, I've been pondering this question myself. I also think that it should shut up everyone in the theater, and, like you said, affect even the non Godzilla-lovers and even Godzilla haters. Maybe Monster X will have some kind of "radiation drain" power, and he literally starves Godzilla, but not without being killed by Godzilla at the end. Then Godzilla stumbles back out to sea, and finally collapses. If Godzilla does die, then his death music should be a mix of the chorus singing from KOTM, GvsMGII, and of course, GvsD. (The 'psychic song' is actually pretty powerful and moving if you ever really listen to it)
Melkor
March 13th, 2004, 09:49 PM
Well this question has never crossed my mind until now. But if Godzilla does die, I want him to die by the hands of Monster X-- but of course also taking Monster X with him. They probably would have him die in the movie, although there is always the possibility of Godzilla falling into a volcano again, or being trapped in an iceberg. Going back, I think Godzilla killing Monster X and dying at the same time would be extremely sad-- but what would be even more effective is a re-enactment of Goji's death by the Oxygen Destroyer. In any case, Godzilla's death, if he dies in GFW, should be interesting to see.
Peace,
Melkor
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kaijufan1000
March 13th, 2004, 10:15 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>i think if he dies it should be he's about to colapse and he uses the last bit of his power to destroy monster x and than the saddest music ever created should play as godzilla dies. [but when he dies his body turns into the particle stuff like when biolante died and when rodan sacrifices himself to save godzilla in g vs. mg2 .] and then as it goes black and the credits start to play they have godzillas theme the best we,ve ever heard it. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kinggojismilie.gif
Alien-G
March 13th, 2004, 10:24 PM
I hope he doesn't die, but the ending should still, somehow be touching
March 13th, 2004, 11:25 PM
Quote[/b] (kaijufan1000 @ Mar. 13 2004,22:15)]i think if he dies it should be he's about to colapse and he uses the last bit of his power to destroy monster x and than the saddest music ever created should play as godzilla dies. [but when he dies his body turns into the particle stuff like when biolante died and when rodan sacrifices himself to save godzilla in g vs. mg2 .] and then as it goes black and the credits start to play they have godzillas theme the best we,ve ever heard it. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kinggojismilie.gif
Thats how I imagine it Godzilla using his last breath to kill Monster X, Then dying with some really sad music that would make even a non fan cry.
Solar_Behemoth
March 13th, 2004, 11:27 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>They won't have him die.
He never died in a movie before- everyone says he did in G vs. Destroyer, but he came back in the grown body of Jr.
Toho will not disappoint Godilla films by having him die in the 50th anniversary film.
If he does in the film, I don't care, he'll come back again.
March 13th, 2004, 11:28 PM
well yeah he will comeback but i think he will die in this movie.
MechaV
March 13th, 2004, 11:32 PM
I prefer to think he'll waddle off into the sunset like at the end of TOMG.
rodan70
March 14th, 2004, 02:42 AM
<font color='#810541'>I hope Godzilla dosn't die. I couldn't make it through another Godzilla 1985!
Godzilla54
March 14th, 2004, 10:08 AM
I have a feeling he will die and it will hopefully very dramatic and have the saddest G music ever and like what Kajiufan said, have the most brilliantly done G theme to go with the credits. imagine an entire orchestra doing the G theme. Or if Godzilla doesn't die, he should be knocked down by his own blast and when he gets up, and Tokyo (or whever the final battle is) completely burned with fires every where and all the buildings gone and everythings in ash and then have the Dies Iraes theme from Hector Berlioz "Fantastic Symphony" play in the background.
Project Pimp
March 20th, 2004, 11:13 AM
I seriously doubt he'll die. This was formerly known as THE GODZILLA after all.
PyrasTerran
March 20th, 2004, 01:12 PM
Yeh, they might be going for him being "the best fo the best,and will never die" kinda feel.
Mecha-Rodan
March 20th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Unless they pull off a GvsD/GXM/GMK ending stunt...
WitchKing667
March 21st, 2004, 12:43 AM
<font color='#000F22'>I think Monster X might kill him, but who knows..
Archaic_Avenger
March 21st, 2004, 05:46 PM
theirs two possible ways to go. the idea of Godzilla using his last fighting bit of life to kill Monster X, then dying, or the idea of him defeating it and then walking off into the sunset. i'm hoping for the latter. unfortunately, i'm getting thoughts of the unfortunate happening by the new tital Godzilla: Final Wars, and the slogan, "this is the end."
well, here's to hoping for the sunset.
Rodan2000
Neo-Crucifer
March 21st, 2004, 06:24 PM
Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ Mar. 13 2004,23:27)]He never died in a movie before
You forget Godzilla 1954...
Anyway, I think it'd be good if he just walked into the sunset with the G-march playing.
Gorjirus
March 21st, 2004, 06:28 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>I think that in a movie such as this, there is always a chance of Godzilla dying. At worst, Toho pulls the GMK stunt where you keep getting beaten down, then some miracle happens and brings you to full strength.
Burkion
March 21st, 2004, 07:05 PM
I think that the people figer out a way to make a new OD, and when Godzilla kills off Monster X, he staggers off to the sea. Then we have the OD kill him. Just like the first.
March 21st, 2004, 07:23 PM
yeah I think the Oxygen Destroyer will come back in the movie.
kaijufan1000
March 21st, 2004, 07:29 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>I,ve changed my mind. I kinda hope he walks off into the sunset. Heres an idea, when the screen goes black after he dies[or walks off in the sunset.] we hear a godzilla theme as we see scenes from each godzilla movie and then the credits. Who agrees, disagrees?
Mecha-Rodan
March 21st, 2004, 09:54 PM
That actually sounds pretty good. It'll be a nice tribute, and a strong steady mix of all of Godzilla's themes could play along with it. And with Tristar's recent addition of the actual credits to the films, we won't be left with a few very short shots of one or two movies, with half the music cut out, like they did for GvsD (I've seen the full credits, and they are great).
Grand Godzilla
March 21st, 2004, 10:42 PM
Godzilla dying in GFW is a possibalty, but what I think would be better is if Godzilla kills Monster X with his Atomic Breath then he is knock out cause of the impact of the blast and then wakes up to see Tokyo in ruiuns and then roars, proving that there is no equally to the mighty Godzilla. Well thats my idea but I dont think it will happen.
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kent
March 21st, 2004, 11:00 PM
I think Monster X may put him on the brink of death, but then Godzilla will become rejuventated, kill Monster X, and walk off into the sea in a very happy ending. I hope they do that too! http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Archaic_Avenger
March 24th, 2004, 07:45 PM
here's to hoping for the better.
Rodan2000
SuperGodzillaF1
March 25th, 2004, 09:25 AM
i think he will use a max power nuke pulse then the screen goes black, and then it fades in the you see 2 billion years later on the screen with dinosaurs walking around a new york city in ruins.... then the screen moves over over the water and you see a familiar shape swiming away from the city (the g-march playing in the backround)
or
i think he will use a max power nuke pulse then the screen goes black, and then it fades in and you see supergodzilla and he looks directly at the screen and uses his max power beam.(the g-march playing in the backround) http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/spacegodzillasmilie.gif
Solar_Behemoth
April 1st, 2004, 03:32 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>Has anyone ever wondered of the possibility that Godzilla will have any family in GFW, like in the Hesei and Showa movies? If so, it will most likely be his son, perhaps tributing to the 90s and late 60s films.
Any thoughts?
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April 1st, 2004, 06:17 PM
I dont think so.
Angiru-San
April 1st, 2004, 08:49 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>probably not....because from what ive heard...the nuclear tests have awoken several mosnters and mutated them (godzilla, and possibly angilas, baragon, rodan etc) so theyre all new....so i dont think baby G will be in this one...although the ideas ok in general i guess
Melkor
April 1st, 2004, 10:01 PM
I don't think so. Like Angilas said, the idea is that all the Kaiju are 'new', meaning they have just been recently mutated, so I doubt if we'll be seeing the son of Godzilla anytime soon. Though it's an interesting idea, but we'll probably not see it on the silver screen.
Peace,
Melkor
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Mecha-Rodan
April 1st, 2004, 10:32 PM
Dear God I hope not. Godzilla doesn't seem right with a son. He becomes a warm loving creature. Frankly, I prefer him to be the cruel animalistic SOB he was in his original film. It feels akward to have a kind loving Godzilla. Leave that role to Mothra...
Angiru-San
April 1st, 2004, 10:34 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>haha that was very well put mecha-R...i agree!
Gojira2000
May 5th, 2004, 11:08 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>I would love to post more on this threand, but so many do so, and I haven't time to read them all so as not to say something said millions of times before, even to get new info.
Anyway, back to subject, which has yet to begin. We now know that Minilla dies, as well as Godzilla. Since Minilla's death is what sets Goji on his mad rampage through out earth, which will likely take up most of the films time, which is fine, because that's what the movies about, Minilla would have to die rather early in the film. If this is the case, I'm happy, because Minilla's one of my least favorite kaiju of all.
As for Godzilla's death. Well, once someone said along the lines of: 'if Monster X is the most powerful kaiju of all, how will Godzilla defeat him?'. Anwser: he doesn't. Of course, we know not if the "Fire Dragon" is the one to kill Goji, or some other reason. Whatever it may be, it costed him the last fight. Godzilla has died several times in the past, so I'm not all that shock to hear it. In fact, as with GvsD, it seemed fitting that Goji die in his last film. What do you think though, of Goji lossing his final war? He really didn't win in GvsD, did he? because although he my have if given the time, but Super X III killed Destoroyah in the end. Hum. Anyway. Do think it right that Goji should lose? And in Shanghai(sp?), rather then Tokyo? I don't know, but Tokyo seems like THE place for kaiju, and only fitting that Goji appeared for the first time there and died there. But again, that has been done already. I'm not against his death in China, mind you. I think it'll be...interesting. So, likely you guys have talked to death this subject, but here it is again anyway. What are your thoughts?
Gigan
May 6th, 2004, 12:50 AM
Well thanks for posting spoiler for me... I had no idea that they both died, as I try to avoid any spoilers for movies I'm anxiously looking forward too. Next time to reveal a key plot item in the title of the topic....
Sigh, I hope this is a joke... http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Gigan
May 6th, 2004, 12:51 AM
Quote[/b] (Gigan @ May 05 2004,21:50)]Next time to reveal a key plot item in the title of the topic....
^ should read
"Next time try not to reveal a key plot item in the title of the topic."
juan
May 6th, 2004, 04:45 PM
Have hope Gigan. I saw that mention too in an issue of China's Shanghai news. I got the link at Toho Kingdom and TK said that you never know. Especially with Shanghai News getting the numbers of Godzilla movies wrong. (It stopped at the hesei series.)
But then again it might be so. When I saw the Monster Zero website's claim that Minya would be there I asked myself if they're serious about it, something strange might happen. When I saw the Shanghai News Article at Toho Kingdom, it spoke of "Godzilla's son" dying. Only time will tell.
As for the question of who will die, the Shanghai Newspaper said that about Minya. I would be saddened by seeing the little fellow die. Having first fallen in love with Godzilla as a child, I have always liked Minya. Even now, the little monster can still make me laugh. While Minya's dying like that might give him some respect in having such an important scene and it would be important to the story, I would be saddened indeed by it.
As for whether Godzilla dies, I don't know about that. I woudn't want that to happen. First of all, it would diminish "Godzilla vs. Destoroyah's" individuality. Considering that we have already seen Godzilla die, seeing him die in the Final War might seem like lowly gimmickry to get our money. I hope the makers of "Final Wars" might be more original in how it ends.
G-Man3579
May 6th, 2004, 05:13 PM
I still think they'll throw in a little scene at the end that implies that Godzilla survived. Kinda like with GMK and GXM...
juan
May 6th, 2004, 05:19 PM
If that happens, then a "death scene" wouldn't be so bad. After all, "No matter what happens, Godzilla will live."
Mr Martin's words in Godzilla 1985! http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Burkion
May 6th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Godzilla. Will. DIE. Get it thru your think heads. I am sorry if I sound mean, but, Godzilla actualy NEEDS to die. Why? Well, lets see.... For one, he has 'won' almost every fight he has ever been in. With or with out help. Also, he died in the original, for good, and he should die fifty years later, FOR GOOD. It's not like they dont have other birthdays they should not be looking in to, IE Angilas. He will turn fifty next year, dont see Toho going nuts over that. Oh well. END RANT NOW.
Alien-G
May 6th, 2004, 09:33 PM
We're gunna get a lot of rumors like this, don't be upset about this
Da Gojirafan
May 6th, 2004, 09:38 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>It's bad enough that i have to see godzilla Die but Minya inthe mix why toho why?
Baryonyx13
May 6th, 2004, 09:39 PM
<font color='#000080'>Yeah, we will get alot of rumors. Only most won't be posted by more than one International new source, which this was. Godzilla will die, get used to the idea. It's actually not a bad one.
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MechaV
May 6th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Quote[/b] (Gigan @ May 06 2004,00:50)]Well thanks for posting spoiler for me... I had no idea that they both died, as I try to avoid any spoilers for movies I'm anxiously looking forward too. Next time to reveal a key plot item in the title of the topic....
Sigh, I hope this is a joke... http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
You should stay out of this part of the forum entirely then,padre.
Gigan
May 6th, 2004, 11:51 PM
True, entering this forum is treading on thin spoiler ice anyways, but I enjoy the discussions regarding monsters that were in the movie and such. I never expected to see a key plot point given away in a post title, which was my primary complaint to begin with.
Alien-G
May 7th, 2004, 12:02 AM
good idea? Godzilla has died twice before, it's not a new idea. And no one completely knows what will happen in Final Wars
Death Godzilla
May 7th, 2004, 11:09 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>look godzilla might kill monsterx but still die of injuries sustained during the fight
rodan70
May 8th, 2004, 03:06 AM
<font color='#FF00FF'>As long as Monster x or any other monster dosn't kill Godzilla on his 50th birthday, I don't care. It won't be as bad if he dies of injuries, as long as he beats the monster first.
Alien-G
May 8th, 2004, 05:52 AM
Why do some people want him to die, he's died twice before
mechagodzilla3
May 8th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Quote[/b] (G-Man3579 @ May 06 2004,17:13)]I still think they'll throw in a little scene at the end that implies that Godzilla survived. Kinda like with GMK and GXM...
<font color='#FF7F00'>That would be awesome.
Komissar
May 8th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Quote[/b] (G-Man3579 @ May 06 2004,17:13)]I still think they'll throw in a little scene at the end that implies that Godzilla survived. Kinda like with GMK and GXM...
Or sort of like at the end of GvD, where a new Godzilla fills the shoes of the old...
CBright7831
May 8th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Quote[/b] (Super Jet Jaguar @ May 06 2004,18:56)]Godzilla. Will. DIE. Get it thru your think heads. I am sorry if I sound mean, but, Godzilla actualy NEEDS to die. Why? Well, lets see.... For one, he has 'won' almost every fight he has ever been in. With or with out help. Also, he died in the original, for good, and he should die fifty years later, FOR GOOD. It's not like they dont have other birthdays they should not be looking in to, IE Angilas. He will turn fifty next year, dont see Toho going nuts over that. Oh well. END RANT NOW.
I was disappointed when I read http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/anguirussmilie.gif wouldn't be in this movie. I wanted to see a return so bad. There are so many kaiju on that list that shouldn't be there, but are. There's nothing we can do about it at this point though.
Mecha-Rodan
May 8th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Quote[/b] (Da Gojirafan @ May 06 2004,21:38)]It's bad enough that i have to see godzilla Die but Minya inthe mix why toho why?
Because this film should be tragic in every sense of the word, even more so than GvsD. Godzilla going on a rampage to avenge the death of his son is one new and original idea for the Godzilla series, and having him finally die tragically after the wounds he has sustained just sounds great.
Quote[/b] ]I was disappointed when I read http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/anguirussmilie.gif wouldn't be in this movie. I wanted to see a return so bad. There are so many kaiju on that list that shouldn't be there, but are. There's nothing we can do about it at this point though.
Uhh.... Did you even read the list? I'm pretty sure it clearly said Anguirus would appear in the movie.
Zigra
May 8th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 07 2004,00:02)]good idea? Godzilla has died twice before, it's not a new idea.
<font color='#0000FF'>I think you've touched down on why I hope this report is inaccurate. It's not because I'm some slobbering fanboy who just doesn't want Godzilla to die, it's because there's nothing special about it anymore. If Godzilla dying is the "special event" that Toho has planned for the 50th, it is pretty pathetic idea even for them. At this point, Godzilla being "killed off" is every bit as meaningless as Freddy Krueger or Jason Vorhees being "killed", especially if Toho plans to just start the series again in 10 years.
Which brings me to my next point. Godzilla's death would be even more meaningless if this movie were indeed part of a stand-alone continuity like I'm sure it will be. So what if Godzilla dies in a stand-alone continuity film? At least he'll still be alive in most other continuities. Sheesh http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nonono2.gif
Mecha-Rodan
May 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Quote[/b] (Zigra @ May 08 2004,15:24)]I think you've touched down on why I hope this report is inaccurate. It's not because I'm some slobbering fanboy who just doesn't want Godzilla to die, it's because there's nothing special about it anymore. If Godzilla dying is the "special event" that Toho has planned for the 50th, it is pretty pathetic idea even for them. At this point, Godzilla being "killed off" is every bit as meaningless as Freddy Krueger or Jason Vorhees being "killed", especially if Toho plans to just start the series again in 10 years.
Because we've never seen Godzilla keel over and die. We've seen him turn into a skeleton (with no meat or blood showing) then evaporated, then we saw him melt amongst a lot of smoke and steam. We have never seen Godzilla simply fall over and die, or maybe writh amongst his own blood for a while before finally losing his will to survive. And, who can say that Godzilla won't die by his son's side? Trying to approach his sons carcass and nuzzling it gently one last time before slipping into the darkness...
Also, the ending for GvsD was made a lot less tragic, though managed to be extremely powerful, by the revival of Jr. This time, Jr is already dead, showing that Godzilla is now truly an extinct species.
And who cares about what happens in ten years? Sure, it will make GFW less sad, but GvsD's ending is still very sad and powerful, even though we know that his son survives, and later G2k comes out and starts a new series.
Zigra
May 8th, 2004, 04:08 PM
Quote[/b] (Mecha-Rodan @ May 08 2004,15:33)]Because we've never seen Godzilla keel over and die.
<font color='#0000FF'>http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nonono2.gif http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nonono2.gif So what? They're going to kill him off in a different manner than before. Big hairy deal. Don't try to make it sound like there is anything "new" or "original" about that. Freddy and Jason were constantly being "killed off" in different manners, but that didn't make their deaths any more "special" or "unique" than before.
Quote[/b] ]We have never seen Godzilla simply fall over and die, or maybe writh amongst his own blood for a while before finally losing his will to survive.
Uh, excuse me, but did you ever bother to watch GvsD? True, Godzilla didn't "fall over" and die, but we did get to see him writh around in obvious pain and loose his will to live before he finally melted away in a slow and obviously excrusiating manner. And why did he loose his will to live? That's right class, because his son was killed!
Quote[/b] ]And, who can say that Godzilla won't die by his son's side? Trying to approach his sons carcass and nuzzling it gently one last time before slipping into the darkness...
Hmm, that sounds an awful lot like the scene in GvsD where Godzilla stands over Junior's corpse, fails to revive him, and looses himself in sadness and grief. I know the scenerio you described is somewhat different, but it's similar enough to what happened in GvsD that I really can't think of it as anything "new" or "special".
Quote[/b] ]This time, Jr is already dead, showing that Godzilla is now truly an extinct species.
Perhaps that would mean something if this weren't a brand new one-shot continuity. You see, the greatest impact of Godzilla's death in GvsD was that this was a monster that we had really come to know and grow accustomed to for that past decade. With GFW, we'll just get another "brand new" Godzilla that we don't really know that will be around for one movie, and then get killed. Then Toho can just create another "brand new" Godzilla in about 10 years in his place. Whoopee.
Kaiju Artist
May 8th, 2004, 04:47 PM
<font color='#008080'>I'm sure I read that Godzilla was supposed to defeat Monster X in one blow.
It sounds like this movie will end in a tie. Godzilla rushes towards Monster X and Monster X rushes towards Godzilla, they ram heads, and both die from a concussion.
kpa
May 8th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Quote[/b] (Kaiju Artist @ May 08 2004,13:47)]I'm sure I read that Godzilla was supposed to defeat Monster X in one blow.
It's interesting to see news and rumors evolve over time. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Mecha-Rodan
May 8th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Quote[/b] (Zigra @ May 08 2004,16:08)]http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nonono2.gif *http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nonono2.gif So what? They're going to kill him off in a different manner than before. Big hairy deal. Don't try to make it sound like there is anything "new" or "original" about that. Freddy and Jason were constantly being "killed off" in different manners, but that didn't make their deaths any more "special" or "unique" than before.
Uh, excuse me, but did you ever bother to watch GvsD? True, Godzilla didn't "fall over" and die, but we did get to see him writh around in obvious pain and loose his will to live before he finally melted away in a slow and obviously excrusiating manner. And why did he loose his will to live? That's right class, because his son was killed!
Hmm, that sounds an awful lot like the scene in GvsD where Godzilla stands over Junior's corpse, fails to revive him, and looses himself in sadness and grief. I know the scenerio you described is somewhat different, but it's similar enough to what happened in GvsD that I really can't think of it as anything "new" or "special".
Perhaps that would mean something if this weren't a brand new one-shot continuity. You see, the greatest impact of Godzilla's death in GvsD was that this was a monster that we had really come to know and grow accustomed to for that past decade. With GFW, we'll just get another "brand new" Godzilla that we don't really know that will be around for one movie, and then get killed. Then Toho can just create another "brand new" Godzilla in about 10 years in his place. Whoopee.
So what if it's a lot like GvsD? Toho doesn't exactly like to come up with new and original ideas.
Quote[/b] ]I'm sure I read that Godzilla was supposed to defeat Monster X in one blow.
It sounds like this movie will end in a tie. Godzilla rushes towards Monster X and Monster X rushes towards Godzilla, they ram heads, and both die from a concussion.
http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif
Its fun to see how people can ignore what these articles say completely or change them around to fit what they want to say.
Kaiju Artist
May 8th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Quote[/b] (Kaiju Artist @ May 08 2004,16:47)]I'm sure I read that Godzilla was supposed to defeat Monster X in one blow.
<font color='#008080'>Quote[/b] ]Kitamura wants to have a Godzilla that can beat a foe with one blow.
I was sort of right. Monster X isn't exactly Godzilla's best buddy at this point in time.
Quote[/b] ]Its fun to see how people can ignore what these articles say completely or change them around to fit what they want to say.
For those people, that means Monster X is one of Godzilla's foes.
Gojira2000
May 8th, 2004, 07:17 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Quote[/b] ]Uh, excuse me, but did you ever bother to watch GvsD? True, Godzilla didn't "fall over" and die, but we did get to see him writh around in obvious pain and loose his will to live before he finally melted away in a slow and obviously excrusiating manner. And why did he loose his will to live? That's right class, because his son was killed!
First off, it would be kind of "new" to see Godzilla de in no special way, just keeling over, and dieing, maybe after a menunte or two of laying in pain. The reason: Godzilla is no ordinary kaiju, he just doesn't 'die'--the end. No. Godzilla has always been givin a new and special death, wether by an invention or a heart burn, or even "dieing" via volcano. He always gets a "cool", "diffrent", "full of SFX" type death, and rightly so. However, think of it, Godzilla, King of the Monsters, simply dies of his wounds. As they said in GXM, "it's only an animal". Everything dies, and everthing has its limits, and Godzilla reached his.
The sceond thing, Godzilla really didn't give up on living, and just died in GvsD--he was doomed anyway. When his body temp. became 1200 degrees, he melted. Godzilla will to live had nothing to do with it, and it would have made little diffrence, as he was going to melt at 1200 wether he liked it or not. And if he could of killed himself via making himself melt, he would have done it after he fail to biring Jr. back to life, if that was he's reason for giving up on life.
I do see how some don't care for the idea of Godzilla dieing, for ture, how can we be saddened to see a kaiju die whom we've just met? I'm sure they'll find a way. And even though this is a new Godzilla, he is still Godzilla, and that fact in itself is enough a reason to be sad over his death.
And why are so many sad Toho's killing Minlla? I say it's about time! The sooner the better (now watch, because I said that Minilla will end up being a cool kaiju after all and I'll feel bad him). It's just that I thought that most didn't like him, so what's the big woopdeedo?
Dino Hunter 2.0
May 8th, 2004, 10:19 PM
Beats me. I look forward to seeing Minya bite the dust.
The Great MM
May 8th, 2004, 10:37 PM
Uh guys...it says must kaiju will be NEWER muation...NOT all. Something tells me this may be some what like GMK, he was turned a skeleton in 1954, sometime in the 90's he reappeared and got a son, they dissapear, 2004, they find the baby, baby is killed, and Godzilla is pissed.
The Great MM
May 8th, 2004, 10:38 PM
Oh and by the way, looks like this Godzilla won't have regeneration... or atleast slow regeneration like GMK Godzilla.
Angiru-San
May 8th, 2004, 10:40 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>i think the whole Idea is a brilliant move by Toho....so what if they die...how else are you gonna explain a 5-10 year absense????
yeah seeing G die will be emotional but we have all had a couple of weeks now to get ust to that!
Solar_Behemoth
May 8th, 2004, 10:51 PM
Quote[/b] (Gojira2000 @ May 08 2004,19:17)]First off, it would be kind of "new" to see Godzilla de in no special way, just keeling over, and dieing, maybe after a menunte or two of laying in pain.
you see this is alot of people's problems.
Did the news ever say Godzilla will kneel-over and slowly die?
No. You guys are just making up all this #### and theorizing.
Godzilla is destined to lose a battle against the Fire Dragon.
That's all it said. Calm down until more info comes around.
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Angiru-San
May 8th, 2004, 10:57 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>yeah what he said.....too
Mecha-Rodan
May 8th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ May 08 2004,22:51)]you see this is alot of people's problems.
Did the news ever say Godzilla will kneel-over and slowly die?
No. You guys are just making up all this #### and theorizing.
Godzilla is destined to lose a battle against the Fire Dragon.
That's all it said. Calm down until more info comes around.
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I theorize because:
1. That's what I do best
and 2. Everyone is talking about how this will be no different from Goji's death in 54 or GvsD.
I never said he wouldn't lose to the Fire Dragon, and I doubt Godzilla dies at its hands, but from wounds sustained during the fight, and sense it tells us that Godzilla dies by a building in Shanghai (can't remember the name), it just sounds a bit likely that he will simply fall over, no longer able to carry his wounds, and die there.
mecha-kumonga
May 9th, 2004, 04:27 AM
<font color='#008080'>Godzilla will die and I believe he will die at the hands of Monster X. I think Monster X will kill Godzilla and take his place in the world. Why because I think Toho is looking at starting a new Godzilla line in 5 to ten years (only my idea my thought, not a rumor an idea). Starting all over. I don't mean like 1985 or 2000 or GXM or GMK or even the last two. I think that they may be looking at redoing KOTM. The reason for the gap in time is because something major will be changed. So they want the last 50 years to be forgot about in away. Kids that are being born now or 3 years ago won't know todays Godzilla so they wont be bothered with the changes in 10 years. Thats what I believe. Again I may be completely wrong and stupid.
Neo-Crucifer
May 9th, 2004, 01:09 PM
Quote[/b] (Gojira2000 @ May 08 2004,19:17)]And if he could of killed himself via making himself melt, he would have done it after he fail to biring Jr. back to life, if that was he's reason for giving up on life.
This is off-topic, but I don't think Godzilla would kill himself (if there was a way) with Destroyah still standing.
Gojira2000
May 9th, 2004, 10:21 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Quote[/b] ]Did the news ever say Godzilla will kneel-over and slowly die?
No. You guys are just making up all this #### and theorizing.
Godzilla is destined to lose a battle against the Fire Dragon.
That's all it said. Calm down until more info comes around.
I wasn't saying that he WILL keel over and die, I was just taking into acount Mecha-Rodan's idea, which I like, and saying that there's nothing worng with goji just simply dieing.
And we aren't 100% sure that Monster X WILL kill Godzilla, the news only said he'd lose. Now, that may seem only logical that Goji died because of Mon. X if is to lose the fight, but the way Toho has of doing things, you never know. And after Goji dies, and Mon. X is left standing, what then? Credits roll? Mankind steps in with a new weapon and destroys him? This sounds a lot like GvsD to me, and I hope they don't go that way. Of course Mon. X is almost surely going to die in the end, but if he kills Goji, who'll do the killing? The other 12 kaiju? Just wait and see, Mothra larva will end up saving the day.:laugh:
girzilla
May 9th, 2004, 10:58 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>I think it's okay if they kill Minilla http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/darklord.gif . I don't like him and I think he's a waste of a rubber suit. but as far as Godzilla dying...they've done that before and then they bring him back like nothing ever happened, which makes his death meaningless. I just don't think that it would make much of an impact if he died on his 50th. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif
Alien-G
May 9th, 2004, 11:35 PM
I don't see why anyone would want to see Godzilla die in a bloody way. It would make the film way too depressing.
Mecha-Rodan
May 10th, 2004, 12:57 AM
If it's powerful, then what's wrong with being depressing? G54 was depressing and powerful, GvsD was depressing and powerful, and they are often claimed the best of their series... By me and others.
Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 09 2004,23:35)]I don't see why anyone would want to see Godzilla die in a bloody way. It would make the film way too depressing.
I think why alot of you people will be depressed is because you think it will be the last film.
It wont
GBandit
May 10th, 2004, 01:03 PM
Quote[/b] (Da Gojirafan @ May 06 2004,21:38)]It's bad enough that i have to see godzilla Die but Minya inthe mix why toho why?
Maybe Minya willl be a sacrificial sacrifice to the mummified God to summon him to kill Godzilla, hahahahhahaha
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Gojira2000
May 10th, 2004, 09:43 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Quote[/b] ]I don't see why anyone would want to see Godzilla die in a bloody way. It would make the film way too depressing.
Sad, depressing, and powerful. That often the best ending any movie could have, and goes for GFW. Although it seems the GFW will a non-stop-action film for the most part, I hope that the story builds up to be something really great by the end, and with Godzilla's death as well, I hope it touches the viewer, I hope it's sad, depressing, and leaves the person watching with a sence of hopelessness, dispear, and let, completion, and relief; an ending everyone is happy with. Tat what the need for a his 50th.
Alien-G
May 10th, 2004, 11:44 PM
It wouldn't be upsetting because people would think it's the last film, it's just hard to see your hero laying there dying and in pain, soaking in his blood
Grand Godzilla
May 11th, 2004, 12:34 AM
We know Godzilla will lose the fight or die even as it been said, but just as Gojira2000 said if Godzilla lose who will beat Monster X ???????? Its a little confusing.
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Kappa the water imp
May 12th, 2004, 05:26 AM
I want them to just wade back into the ocean, or Godzilla dies and Minya escapes, but if they do die they'll die together.
Quote[/b] (Grand Godzilla @ May 11 2004,00:34)]We know Godzilla will lose the fight or die even as it been said, but just as Gojira2000 said if Godzilla lose who will beat Monster X ???????? Its a little confusing.
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hmmmm good question.
maybe in the movie they found a way to make a Oxygen Destroyer, and it was going to be used on Godzilla. But since Godzilla is dead.... maybe they will use a Oxygen Destroyer on Monster X.
Quote[/b] (Kappa the water imp @ May 12 2004,05:26)]I want them to just wade back into the ocean, or Godzilla dies and Minya escapes, but if they do die they'll die together.
No.
remeber Godzilla goes on a world wide rampage because the humans accidently killed Minya. I think Minya will die before the title screen comes on.
kaijufan1000
May 12th, 2004, 04:53 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Havent posted in a really long time. Its upsetting that goji will die but i think the best way to and the era is to have goji die at the end like with gvs.d at the end of Heisei.
Angiru-San
May 12th, 2004, 05:46 PM
<font color='#FF7F00'>yep. Just think of this as a G'54 with a hell of alot more monsters! I think its ok because it is basically celebrating 50 years, and what better way than to mock the original? So let him die....i dont want him to, but i can accept it...
Baryonyx13
May 12th, 2004, 07:39 PM
Quote[/b] (Grand Godzilla @ May 10 2004,23:34)]We know Godzilla will lose the fight or die even as it been said, but just as Gojira2000 said if Godzilla lose who will beat Monster X ???????? Its a little confusing.
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<font color='#000080'>Ever seen Gamera 3?
Humongo flock of gyoas, terribly hurt Gamera.
It doesn't show us, but the earth is screwed.
Same thing could happen here. Godzilla is killed, and all we know before the film ends is that there's a huge evil Fire Dragon of mammoth proportions that just killed the most invincible thing we have ever known.
Earth's screwed. What's wrong with a movie where the world is destroyed?
Or Monster X could be a gaurdian that has come from the past (mummified corpse). Who knows.
Everyone please just stop whining and refusing to beleive stuff and just wait until the movie happens.(Not directed at Grand Godzilla)
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By the way... I doubt Godzilla takes Monster X/the fire dragon down with him. He loses to it and dies. Doesn't sound like a tie of any kind to me.
Gojira2000
May 12th, 2004, 10:45 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>No using the Oxygen Destroyer agianest Goji or MOn. X, because that's to much like GvsD. And I have thought about it, an ending such as Baryonyx13 has painted for us, and the way he puts it, it seems like it could work. However, most of me is saying no, because it'll seem like they're trying to copy and out do Gamera 3. As for Monster X being a guardain? Hummm... I didn't think of that, but it seems like he'll end up being a bad guy, and just to Godzilla, but but the whole world. Besides, It'll seem to much like GMK having Mon. X be a guardain, as we've seen enough 'guardains' for the time being.
I thought just occered to me... If King Cesear is a gaurdain, maybe there'll be more, among which is mon. X. Interesting, but as I said, Mon. X doesn't seem to much like a protecter of anything good to me, and again, we've seen to many kaijus out to portect mankind and/or earth because that's their job as a 1000 year old guardain.
Alien-G
May 13th, 2004, 12:04 AM
They don't have to die to have a powerful ending, Destroy All Monsters had a good ending, so did Godzilla vs Monster Zero, a lot of good monster movies end without the main character dying.
Kaiju_Sensai
May 13th, 2004, 03:38 AM
<font color='#008080'>I just thought of something. They said that Monster X is the most powerful foe Godzilla has ever faced, but did they actually say he was going to be evil. Could be the other way around, with MX being the only creature powerful enough to put a stop to Godzilla's rampage. I hope they throw in some story elements from the original G2K script.
Mecha-Rodan
May 13th, 2004, 07:20 PM
Quote[/b] ]Up until this announcement, the cast and story were kept in the strictist secrecy, but elements of the plot have now been cleared for the press. The setting: The near future. Monstrous beasts begin to appear where war and nuclear tests have occurred, due to hasty advances in science, so the countries of the world lend their hands to organize the Earth Defense Forces -- with their greatest enemy being Godzilla. Until one day, when the mummified corpse of an unknown creature is discovered off the coast of the northern island of Hokkaido...
That comes from Monster Zero. Now, if Monster X isn't a bad guy, then why does he become the EDF's greatest enemy? That doesn't sound like the careless human destruction caused by Baragon, Mothra, and King Ghidorah in GMK, it sounds like a creature who is bent on destroying humans.
EDIT: EDIT IS BACK! How I love thee.
Monster X will be considered a bad guy. Destroyah wasnt really the bad guy but turned into one by us.
Gojira2000
May 13th, 2004, 10:12 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Quote[/b] ]Quote
Up until this announcement, the cast and story were kept in the strictist secrecy, but elements of the plot have now been cleared for the press. The setting: The near future. Monstrous beasts begin to appear where war and nuclear tests have occurred, due to hasty advances in science, so the countries of the world lend their hands to organize the Earth Defense Forces -- with their greatest enemy being Godzilla. Until one day, when the mummified corpse of an unknown creature is discovered off the coast of the northern island of Hokkaido...
That comes from Monster Zero. Now, if Monster X isn't a bad guy, then why does he become the EDF's greatest enemy? That doesn't sound like the careless human destruction caused by Baragon, Mothra, and King Ghidorah in GMK, it sounds like a creature who is bent on destroying humans.
When it says "until one day...", they may mean that 'until one day Mon. X aweakens and peplaces Goji as their main enemy...', they may in fact be saying 'until one day Mon. X aweakens and battles/kills Gojira...'. Because of our lack of info., we can guess what they really ment by saying 'until...'. Mon. X may in fact be the only good kaiju in the film.
Grand Godzilla
May 13th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Quote[/b] ]Baryonyx13 Posted on May 12 2004,19:39
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Quote (Grand Godzilla @ May 10 2004,23:34)
We know Godzilla will lose the fight or die even as it been said, but just as Gojira2000 said if Godzilla lose who will beat Monster X ???????? Its a little confusing.
Ever seen Gamera 3?
Humongo flock of gyoas, terribly hurt Gamera.
It doesn't show us, but the earth is screwed.
Same thing could happen here. Godzilla is killed, and all we know before the film ends is that there's a huge evil Fire Dragon of mammoth proportions that just killed the most invincible thing we have ever known.
Earth's screwed. What's wrong with a movie where the world is destroyed?
Or Monster X could be a gaurdian that has come from the past (mummified corpse). Who knows.
Everyone please just stop whining and refusing to beleive stuff and just wait until the movie happens.(Not directed at Grand Godzilla)
By the way... I doubt Godzilla takes Monster X/the fire dragon down with him. He loses to it and dies. Doesn't sound like a tie of any kind to me.
That could happen, and yes we should wait until the movie comes out, but I just always thought that Monster X was going to die by Godzilla from a huge Godzilla that Godzilla was supose to make, ah it really dosen't make a differeance but I was just expresing what I thought.
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Mecha-Rodan
May 13th, 2004, 11:42 PM
Quote[/b] (Gojira2000 @ May 13 2004,22:12)]When it says "until one day...", they may mean that 'until one day Mon. X aweakens and peplaces Goji as their main enemy...', they may in fact be saying 'until one day Mon. X aweakens and battles/kills Gojira...'. Because of our lack of info., we can guess what they really ment by saying 'until...'. Mon. X may in fact be the only good kaiju in the film.
It says "Until one day, when the mummified corpse of an unknown creature is discovered off the coast of the northern island of Hokkaido", implying that Monster X instantly becomes their biggest threat as soon as s/he is discovered.
TyrantisTerror
May 16th, 2004, 10:52 PM
Godzilla, in my opinion, shouldn't die in this film. I don't care if whether the rumor is true, he just shouldn't. Godzilla's death worked for the Hesei bseries because the series always had a dark feeling. But The overall tone I've seen in the Millenium series was happy (Minus GMK, which was a wonderful film, and one of my favs, but certainly not a happy one). Killing Godzilla would be like ending a Disney movie by killing the leads. It'd be funny for a person who isn't a fan of Disney, but not for the little kids who watched. Killing Godzilla doesn't seem like the right way to end this seires. Godzilla deserves a happy ending this time.
I also hope Anguirus makes it out alive, too. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/anguirussmilie.gif
Gojira2000
May 17th, 2004, 04:57 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Quote[/b] ]I also hope Anguirus makes it out alive, too
Don't count on it.
Welcome, by the way.:)
Quote[/b] (Mecha-Rodan @ May 13 2004,23:42)]Quote[/b] (Gojira2000 @ May 13 2004,22:12)]When it says "until one day...", they may mean that 'until one day Mon. X aweakens and peplaces Goji as their main enemy...', they may in fact be saying 'until one day Mon. X aweakens and battles/kills Gojira...'. Because of our lack of info., we can guess what they really ment by saying 'until...'. Mon. X may in fact be the only good kaiju in the film.
It says "Until one day, when the mummified corpse of an unknown creature is discovered off the coast of the northern island of Hokkaido", implying that Monster X instantly becomes their biggest threat as soon as s/he is discovered.
It just meens that Monster X awakens and is more powerful than Godzilla so he automatically becomes the main enemy behind Godzilla.
And since Godzilla will be the underdog maybe when the two fight at the end he is considered a good guy and he some how over comes the hard Monster X.
MechaSpaceGhidorah
May 17th, 2004, 07:45 PM
Perhaps Monster X is thought to be yet another monster that must be killed like the rest of the kaiju?
Mecha-Rodan
May 17th, 2004, 08:56 PM
Quote[/b] (TyrantisTerror @ May 16 2004,22:52)]Godzilla, in my opinion, shouldn't die in this film. *I don't care if whether the rumor is true, he just shouldn't. *Godzilla's death worked for the Hesei bseries because the series always had a dark feeling. *But The overall tone I've seen in the Millenium series was happy (Minus GMK, which was a wonderful film, and one of my favs, but certainly not a happy one). *Killing Godzilla would be like ending a Disney movie by killing the leads. *It'd be funny for a person who isn't a fan of Disney, but not for the little kids who watched. *Killing Godzilla doesn't seem like the right way to end this seires. *Godzilla deserves a happy ending this time.
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What makes you think Godzilla will be a good guy in this film?
Quote[/b] ]It just meens that Monster X awakens and is more powerful than Godzilla so he automatically becomes the main enemy behind Godzilla.
No, it pretty much says it replaces Godzilla as the biggest threat to the EDF.
Quote[/b] ]And since Godzilla will be the underdog maybe when the two fight at the end he is considered a good guy and he some how over comes the hard Monster X.
He doesn't seem to be the underdog to overcome Monster X, since Monster X defeats him then Godzilla dies.
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Gojira2000
May 17th, 2004, 09:48 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Monster X is Goji's most powerful enemy ever. Why would this mian it's more powerful then Goji himself? Mon. X likely will be the stornger of the two anyway.
But even though Mon. X is more powerful then Godzilla, who's to say he's mankind's #1 enemy? It's Godzilla that's going on a mad rampage through out earth.
Angiru-San
May 17th, 2004, 11:08 PM
Quote[/b] (Gojira2000 @ May 17 2004,21:48)]Monster X is Goji's most powerful enemy ever. Why would this mian it's more powerful then Goji himself? Mon. X likely will be the stornger of the two anyway.
But even though Mon. X is more powerful then Godzilla, who's to say he's mankind's #1 enemy? It's Godzilla that's going on a mad rampage through out earth.
<font color='#FF7F00'>our only source of main plot info, thats who....And i bet you $100 that G goes on his romp BEFORE Mon X is discovered, like the rumor leads us to believe...
So g goes on a mad emotional rampage and the Mon x is discovered, awoken whatever, and becomes a bigger threat due to his massive destruction (assumption) so the ESDF concentrates on Mon X also....that doesnt mean they will just drop G, theyll just fight em both (another assumption)
ah hell screw it, we need more information!
Mecha-Rodan
May 17th, 2004, 11:26 PM
Quote[/b] (Angilas @ May 17 2004,23:08)]our only source of main plot info, thats who....And i bet you $100 that G goes on his romp BEFORE Mon X is discovered, like the rumor leads us to believe...
So g goes on a mad emotional rampage and the Mon x is discovered, awoken whatever, and becomes a bigger threat due to his massive destruction (assumption) so the ESDF concentrates on Mon X also....that doesnt mean they will just drop G, theyll just fight em both (another assumption)
That's actually what I was going to say. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Mecha-Rodan
May 17th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Another thing, I don't want Godzilla to be a good guy or a bad guy in this movie. Humans are the only monsters on this planet, and that should be expressed deeply in this movie with both Godzilla and Monster X.
Alien-G
May 18th, 2004, 08:25 PM
How are we monsters?
Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 18 2004,20:25)]How are we monsters?
???????????????????????
Gojira2000
May 18th, 2004, 10:33 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Quote[/b] ]And i bet you $100 that G goes on his romp BEFORE Mon X is discovered, like the rumor leads us to believe...
I know Goji rans amock before Mon. X even aweakens.
Quote[/b] ]How are we monsters?
Take a look at Godzilla and all the other kaiju. Take a look at the world itself. Take a look at humans! We're the most destructive force this poor planet's ever seen. We call Godzilla a monster, but we are the ones who creataed him!
Gojira2000
May 18th, 2004, 10:40 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>By the way, Angilas, I like your picture of all those kaiju, but what is the katana above mean? I don't mean to sound rude, but if you're trying to spell "daikaiju dessumachi" in Japanese, it turned out saying "Dochinohichinohayu donamomoyuhenachineno", and I'm not even sure that says anything in Japanese to begin with. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Mecha-Rodan
May 18th, 2004, 11:57 PM
Quote[/b] (gzilla04 @ May 18 2004,20:28)]Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 18 2004,20:25)]How are we monsters?
???????????????????????
Humans created almost all the monsters in this movie, so how can you say that they aren't monster-like for carelessly using nuclear weapons without heed to the consequences? Hell, Monster X could well be awoken by Nuclear Bombs.
Godzilla guy
May 19th, 2004, 04:34 PM
I'll look forward to seeing Minya's new design. I know Godzilla will die but they have killed him off before I dont think they will kill him off for good. Besides, Toho said that 20 years later they would bring him back.
Gojira2000
May 21st, 2004, 04:25 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>Toho said 5 to 10 years, not 20.
Alien-G
May 22nd, 2004, 12:03 AM
Yeah, of course we made Godzilla, for movies, he's not real http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Bruticus
May 22nd, 2004, 12:08 AM
Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 18 2004,19:25)]How are we monsters?
<font color='#810541'>I'm fine. Thanks for asking. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/darklord.gif
HolyGoji777
May 26th, 2004, 02:06 PM
i know ppl have discussed this but what i REALLY want to know is will they have him die...or will he be reborn such as at the end of gvsdestoroyah or gmk...or even gvsmegaguirus...i cant see them killing him off and not "replacing" him somehow.
Excelsior
May 26th, 2004, 02:20 PM
Even if they do "kill" him, we know it's only temporary. When they restart the series, they'll have many ways to go to revive both the monster and the series.
1) Revive it from the original 1954 Godzilla (ala Godzilla 1984),
2) Give Godzilla Jr from Destroyah a starring turn,
3) Pick up the Millennium series after G x Megaguirus,
4) Do a followup to GMK,
5) Dip into the Kiryu series again,
6) Somehow follow whatever story they lay out in GFW, or...
7) Just start fresh.
Any way you slice it, even if they don't pave the way for a later G film, I'm sure we're going to get one (and probably sooner than we think).
Jokezilla
May 26th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if Godzilla kills himself. For example Godzilla and Monster X are locked in battle and Godziila uses his final and most devastating weapon like his own personal Nuclear Blast destroying him, x and most of the world in the process. Just a thought.
HolyGoji777
May 26th, 2004, 02:53 PM
i hope we see godzilla again sooner than later.
Cyndi
August 24th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I know of a way that could've made his death powerful had it happened in the movie. This would've been a way to redeem Minya as well as echo the ending of Godzilla vs. Destroyah.
Perhaps Minya arrives a little earlier than he did, right in the middle of the fight. Monster X lunges for him and Godzilla gets in the way, getting snatched up just like he does in the movie. Minya tries to beat on him while he drains Godzilla so much that he becomes practically skin and bones, then he tosses him aside. Minya starts to scream and his radioactive properties blaze out of control. The guys in the Gotengo see this and that young Neo-lookalike guy(I can never remember his name!) channels his Kaiser power up into Minya. The result is Minya mutates into an almost fully adult Godzilla who proceeds to take Monster X down just like in the movie. After Monster X is dispatched, Minya kneels beside Godzilla. Godzilla 'tells' Minya that he's proud of him, pats his head and slowly closes his eyes. As he passes away he fades into a blue glow that covers Minya, causing his dorsal plates to reach their full size. Minya sheds tears as his father's memories and spirit flood into him. Then he stands up and emits a familiar roar at the rising sun. Then he'd round on the humans(thus giving them a good scare), see the boy and his grandpa and the boy sees that the new Godzilla still has Minya's brown eyes. "Minya's still in there!" cries the boy happily. Minya just kinda smiles sadly in acknowledgement before he walks off into the morning light.
Godzilla would've died...and risen again.
That's how I would have done it anyway, had that been the movie's plan. But I'm sure glad it wasn't, I hate seeing Goji die!
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