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Raptor
July 5th, 2004, 06:58 PM
4. King Seesar (http://www.kaijuphile.com/rodansroost/kaijustats/kingseesar.shtml) vs. Gappa (http://www.kaijuphile.com/rodansroost/kaijustats/gappa.shtml)
Cole Deschain
July 6th, 2004, 01:38 AM
Gappa's going down.

By the by, Raptor, Gappa stats are on this site... why isn't his name linked?
Aragorn_Strider22
July 6th, 2004, 02:29 AM
Winner: Gappa

All Gappa would have to do is stay in the area and blast King Ceesar from behind with his fire ray, which I doubt Ceesar could safely reflect without getting his facial fur singed.
Cole Deschain
July 6th, 2004, 02:46 AM
Again with the "fur burns" schtick...

Mechagodzilla certainly didn't set Seesar ablaze. I sincerely doubt Gappa is capable of it.
Aragorn_Strider22
July 6th, 2004, 03:12 AM
Mechagodzilla's weaponry that he used against Ceesar isn't solely made to start things on fire. Just because missiles don't start something on fire, doesn't mean a blast of pure fire won't.
Cole Deschain
July 6th, 2004, 03:19 AM
Considering the heat those eye-beams clearly generate, to say nothing of the flaming craters the missiles tended to leave, I'd say that Seesar won't be bursting into flame any time soon. Also, Gappa's no tactical genius. He's not as bad as, say, Megalon, but he's hardly a master tactician.
Melkor
July 6th, 2004, 04:45 AM
King Seesar wins. Gappa is a horrendously weak creature, and he is certainly no wiz kid, either. King Seesar may be land-bound, but the way I see it, Gappa's beams will hardly put a dent on our lion god, who will pummel Gappa to death.



Peace,



Melkor



:darklord:
anguirus55
July 6th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Wow, my second tie vote already. Since Seesar isn't going to be reflecting that beam (I find it VERY doubtful) then it turns into a good tooth-and-clawer against a kaiju average in power and above-average in versatility. Flight and a Godzilla-esque beam aren't nothing to sneeze at.
MirrenDono
July 6th, 2004, 11:28 AM
I'll never see Gappa as weak, so I think he has a chance here...

In close combat Seesar will pound Gappa, but the birdy-lizard here has the flight which he can use to just fly around Seesar and blast him with his beam. Truly, I don't know if that would do it though...

Abstain.
Solar_Behemoth
July 6th, 2004, 11:58 AM
Hmmm. Now here is a hard one.

Gappa has his flight and might attack from the sky with his beam, but Seesar has been proven to be quite resistant against these forms of attacks. Mechagodzilla assault anyone? Godzilla even caught on fire but Seesar did not. Besides, eventually Seesar will reflect that at Gappa which will take Gappa down from the sky. Then Seesar could move in for the kill....

King Seesar wins.
HolyGoji777
July 6th, 2004, 03:28 PM
my favorite mammalian kaiju wins this...
Gorjirus
July 8th, 2004, 10:05 PM
King Seesar. I believe that it was stated on one thread that King Seesar is able to draw in beam attacks to the eyes (I mena, he sorta has too. How many shots do you think are aimed directly at the eyes?). This mean Seesar can hit Gappa with his beam if Gappa uses it. And it turns to HtH, King Seesar will easily beat down the tri-phibian monster.
Grand Godzilla
July 9th, 2004, 12:49 AM
King Seesar is not going to be set on fire anytime soon. The fight would go into hand to hand combat. King Seesar would pound on Gappa.
UltraGojira
July 9th, 2004, 01:11 AM
I'm voting King Seesar. Gappa's beam is too weak, so King Seesar doesn't need to reflect the beam. King Seesar is just going to RIP Gappa apart with his hands.
anguirus55
July 9th, 2004, 09:18 AM
I believe that it was stated on one thread that King Seesar is able to draw in beam attacks to the eyes (I mena, he sorta has too. How many shots do you think are aimed directly at the eyes?).

Just because it's stated doesn't make it true. If you have seen GvsMG '74 in widescreen, you'd know that at one point in the battle (when MG has his head turned all the way around) he strikes KS in the HEAD with his lasers and connects. KS goes down.

KS has good reflexes, but his success rate is maybe 75% against a beam that IS around the same diameter as his eyes. It would not work at all if the beam was too big. That's why Gappa can hit him, and that's why it is BS that he beat GMK Godzilla last year.
kent
July 9th, 2004, 03:03 PM
I agree with what Showa Goji said. Gappa is underrated. While his HTH combat is weak compared to Seesar's, his ray will do damage to him. Plus, it's something that Seesar cannot reflect back. Gappa also can fly which will help him get some good shots at Seesar. The battle will be tough and close. But with the ray and flight, Gappa has the upper hand and I see him winning the match.
Hybrid Gojira
July 12th, 2004, 03:26 PM
Just because it's stated doesn't make it true. If you have seen GvsMG '74 in widescreen, you'd know that at one point in the battle (when MG has his head turned all the way around) he strikes KS in the HEAD with his lasers and connects. KS goes down.

KS has good reflexes, but his success rate is maybe 75% against a beam that IS around the same diameter as his eyes. It would not work at all if the beam was too big. That's why Gappa can hit him, and that's why it is BS that he beat GMK Godzilla last year.
I agree with Ang here. Seesar's ability to "draw beams" and reflect them is limited to some extent.
Draco Starcloud
July 14th, 2004, 04:54 AM
Gappa doesn't fight as well without its mate, so I give it to King Seesar.
mechagodzilla3
July 14th, 2004, 02:45 PM
King seesar will pound Gappa. In close combat he will get pounded. And king seesar eye beams are pretty good
anguirus55
July 14th, 2004, 03:09 PM
King Seesar doesn't have his own eye beams...
bloodyarts
July 14th, 2004, 03:50 PM
And king seesar eye beams are pretty good

What eye beams?
bloodyarts
July 14th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Woops, Ang beat me to it...
anguirus55
July 14th, 2004, 04:12 PM
LOL. Sorry. :P
Raptor
July 15th, 2004, 04:51 AM
By the by, Raptor, Gappa stats are on this site... why isn't his name linked?
Missed that one! Guess I should have gone straight to the ALPHA list. :blush: The link has been added in the establishing post but here are GAPPA (http://www.kaijuphile.com/rodansroost/kaijustats/gappa.shtml) stats.
anguirus55
July 15th, 2004, 01:23 PM
I'm curious. How many people voting against Gappa have seen his movie?
Draco Starcloud
July 15th, 2004, 02:04 PM
I'm curious. How many people voting against Gappa have seen his movie?

I've seen his movie.
Cole Deschain
July 16th, 2004, 02:54 AM
I've seen his movie. I wasn't impressed.
anguirus55
July 16th, 2004, 02:15 PM
Fair enough, but neither did King Seesar really. He's not a bad fighter, but I'm just surprised that he's leading by nine...
The Great MM
September 17th, 2004, 11:49 AM
King Caesar vs. Gappa

Arena: Monster Island

Rules: Both are Showa sized.

Who Will Win...
bloodyarts
September 17th, 2004, 12:22 PM
Hmm, it's not known what skills Gappa would employ in a fight other than his breath attack. S/He certainly has the advantage of flight and their power seem to increase somewhat when they get angry (eyes turn red).

Seesar is up against a foe who can fly and possesses a beam which can't be reflected. However, as Gappas appear to be docile creatures (until provoked), they probably don't possess any fierce combat skills other than the beam. They're probably more defensive than offensive fighters.

If Seesar gets his hand on Gappa, he could take it. Also, I'm not sure how resistant Seesar's skin/fur is to a focused heat attack (we know he doesn't like missiles), but I gather it would give him pause.

I'd like to think Gappa has the upper hand in this fight, but we really don't know how much damage it would do to a living opponent (especially one as relentless and skilled at HtH as Seesar), so I have to go with King Seesar by default.