More kaiju?

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF7F00'>I am nearly 100% sure Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, Mothra, Monster X, Baragon, Anguirus, and Rodan will all be in Godzilla: Final Wars. However, that lists only 8 of the 10 promised monsters. What monster do you think be in GFW besides the 8 I listed?


I wonder........

I think Biollante will be in GFW but thats me.

[Kaiju_Sensai]

<font color='#008080'>I voted Gigan simply because he's my favorite and I'd like to see him come back.

[RexRaptor]

Dude, in your list of who your 100% sure about, you forgot King Ghidorah

Quote[/b] (RexRaptor @ April 10 2004,17:13)]Dude, in your list of who your 100% sure about, you forgot King Ghidorah
I didnt notice that when I first read it.

[Roehm]

Gigan shall be in it, at least that is what I believe

[PyrasTerran]

you're acting as if the kaiju you listed will undoubtably be in the film. Don't count your chickens before they've hatched.

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF7F00'>^

Heh, I bet they will.

anyways, yeah, I forgot to list King ghidorah.

[Seer235]

That would explain why there are only 7 kaiju listed

[Mecha-Rodan]

And there is no &quot;h&quot; in &quot;Orga&quot;...

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#FF0000'>^

Actually, some people do call it Orgah.

Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ April 10 2004,21:25)]^

Actually, some people do call it Orgah.
huh I never knew that.... I thaught it was always ORGA.... thats how they spelled in on the japanese vhs for Godzilla 2000.

[kpa]

Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ April 10 2004,18:25)]^

Actually, some people do call it Orgah.
But they would be wrong since Toho and Sony spell it 'Orga'.

[GBandit]

Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ April 10 2004,16:10)]I am nearly 100% sure Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, Mothra, Monster X, Baragon, Anguirus, and Rodan will all be in Godzilla: Final Wars. However, that lists only 8 of the 10 promised monsters. What monster do you think be in GFW besides the 8 I listed?


I wonder........
I knew it, I agree with your list, but it pisses me off, Its going to be a bunch of monsters in recent films......and like 1 or 2 old monsters, dammit!!!!
I hate TOHO!

[Husnock]

Quote[/b] (konga1 @ April 11 2004,10:26)]Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ April 10 2004,16:10)]I am nearly 100% sure Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, Mothra, Monster X, Baragon, Anguirus, and Rodan will all be in Godzilla: Final Wars. However, that lists only 8 of the 10 promised monsters. What monster do you think be in GFW besides the 8 I listed?


I wonder........
I knew it, I agree with your list, but it pisses me off, Its going to be a bunch of monsters in recent films......and like 1 or 2 old monsters, dammit!!!!
I hate TOHO!
FRom what I understand, Mothra, Monster X, and Godzilla himself have been counted separately from the other 10, and they always said at least 10, so the number of returning monsters may be higher. &nbsp;I'm sure there will be much more than just one or two classics. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Yeah besides Godzilla, and Monster X there could be 10 other monsters in the movie making a total of 12.

[Mecha-Rodan]

^ There needs to be at least 11, since Toho said there will be more monsters than in any previous Godzilla film, and DAM had 10 monsters, so...

[Morgoth]

Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Anguirus, Manda, Gorosaurus, Minya, Kumonga, Varan and Baragon = 11 monsters in DAM. So if they want the most monsters ever, they need an even dozen.

[kaijufan1000]

<font color='#0000FF'>12 monsters will be cool. but if it does have more than dam then how will they fit all the monsters. dam had 11 and two monsters only had cameo's.

Thats why am saying I think the movie will be 2-2 1/2 hrs.

[rodan70]

<font color='#FF00FF'>I'd have to say Gigan. I just have that feeling
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[Archaic_Avenger]

King Ghidorah and Mothra have been confirmed. &nbsp;the name Godzilla: Final Wars makes me pretty confident that Godzilla will be in it. &nbsp;and Monster X is also confirmed. &nbsp;i say that Rodan and Anguirus have a near definate chance of being in it, and Baragon has a smaller, but decent chance as well. &nbsp;as for MechaGodzilla, i'm just not sure. &nbsp;they could very well tie this into third GxMG movie, but they said a totally new Godzilla design which makes me think no MechaGodzilla. &nbsp;my guess is Gigan will make it. &nbsp;i kinda hope Megalon, but he's such a stupid (in brains) kaiju that i doubt he'll make the cut for what's going to be the ultimate kaiju movie. &nbsp;Biolanti has a good chance, but she's one of those one hit wonders who got killed in her only movie. &nbsp;the monsters i say will be in it will probably be the monsters who didn't die in their movies (and that excludes Godzilla, Mothra, Anguirus, and a few others who have died, but simply have come back.) &nbsp;this makes me think there's a very small chance that any Heisei monsters will make the cut, seeing as how they all died by the end of their movies...

Rodan2000

[The Great MM]

We were guarenteed at least one only kaiju from each time line so for Heisei, I say Biollante, Battra, or MechaGhidorah. BTW: Baragon, Kameba, MechaGodzilla are multiple time lines...

[Kappa the water imp]

King Seaser or Gigan.

[Dan]

I think we're going to see just alot of the more &quot;natural&quot; kaiju, meanining probably no cyborgs or mech's of any sort.

I want to se Megaguirus in the movie.

I want him and Rodan to fight in the movie.

[Solar_Behemoth]

<font color='#000080'>We'll be seeing Mechagodzilla. But no other mecha probably.

[kaijufan1000]

<font color='#0000FF'>Gigan got into the movie acording monster zero news.

[mecha_angilas_3000]

it would be funny to see varan in the movie

[Xenomorph]

With the rumours there are two new monsters to be annouce. Why is toho holding back information then I had a good idea. And this why blow people away.

This is an idea. Just an idea. What if there is the first godzilla and the second godzilla. Now that would be something special.

[MechaV]

Once again, I seriously doubt that there are more monsters in the film.

Get over it,people.

[Project Pimp]

Will you people stop this already??!! There are a few seemingly credible rumors out there, but there is nothing saying "there will be two more monsters announced", there never was, you guys just keep twisting what you've heard more and more until it becomes some kind of false news. In fact, this thread is just springing off from BS you guys were stirring up in another, only now you try to pass it off as if someone credible had lent credibility to it. This thread should be obliterated, IMHO.

[Solar_Behemoth]

There won't be 2 more monsters in this film! Jeez

[MechaV]

Will you people stop this already??!! There are a few seemingly credible rumors out there, but there is nothing saying "there will be two more monsters announced", there never was, you guys just keep twisting what you've heard more and more until it becomes some kind of false news. In fact, this thread is just springing off from BS you guys were stirring up in another, only now you try to pass it off as if someone credible had lent credibility to it. This thread should be obliterated, IMHO.
The Pimp speaks truth, heed his words.

[HolyGoji777]

you guys are just starting to piss everyone off...i suggest you quit before anyones too irritated.

[HolyGoji777]

ok now your starting to get on MY nerves

[Raptor]

With the rumours there are two new monsters to be annouce. Why is toho holding back information then I had a good idea. And this why blow people away.

This is an idea. Just an idea. What if there is the first godzilla and the second godzilla. Now that would be something special.
This topic has ZERO CREDIBILITY. You know why?

1. WHICH and WHAT rumors? WHERE did you get your information? Link, please?
2. What has YOUR idea to do with a forum for TOHO"S FILM, GODZILLA: FINAL WARS? We have a Kaiju Story forum for fan fics and Art forums for creature design.
3. The second part should be a SEPARATE TOPIC TITLED AS SUCH: WHAT IF...

Let's keep this dicussion forum for GFW INFORMATIVE and INTERESTING. I'm seeing the same "fan boy" stuff in MULTIPLE threads. Wishful thinking is great but don't try to pass it off for fact or even rumor around here. :angry:

[Deoson]

How come Raptor is allowed to say fan boy but MM wasn't?!

[HolyGoji777]

because raptors a mod thats why

*bows before raptors greatness*

besides its justified by your actions as of late.

[Deoson]

This forum gives fan boys a bad name.

[HolyGoji777]

no i think fanboys give fanboys a bad name.

[Deoson]

Did that make sense? No.


Now on to the two new monsters, King Kong and Destroyah. I can't wait to see this creatures in action once again.

[ALLOSAURZ]

Here's what I was able to gleen from the better scans (thanks, Robert!):

The shots of Godzilla, Rodan, Angilas and Gigan feature a disclaimer in
Japanese, "Shashin-wa eizo sakuin naka-no mono desu." This is to tell
retailers that these are not shots of the actual toys. So, what does it say,
verbatim? "This photo is a from the actual production" -- this means that
these are the shots of the actual monster suits. Whether the Angilas is
finished, or whether that was a test shot (missing the long fangs and the
signature snout-horn), remains to be seen.

A note of interest in the Chogokin (super-metal) Gigan... the seperate
shot of the extra (and more armored-adorned) head and accompanying
double-chain, saw states that these are to switch with the standard arm and
head, so you can have the "Revived Gigan." This means that Gigan is going to
be defeated, and then return, ala Mecha King Ghidorah, with more cybernetic
parts.

The main page of the catalogue states in "Point 1", that GFW has an
unprecidented 15 monsters [including Godzilla]." So, who are the monsters
yet revealed?

Can't get more "official" than that! ;P

Peace,
August
henshinonline.com

So does this mean the rumors of Gorosaurus/GINO might be true?

[MechaV]

I hope to God it doesn't.

Let's see;

1.Godzilla

2.Gigan

3.Rodan

4.Minya

5.Mothra

6.Kamacuras

7.Kumonga

8.Manda

9.Ebirah

10.Anguirus

11. King Seesar

12.Hedorah

13. Monster X

14. Kaiser Ghidorah

15. Revived Gigan

[Mr. Camouflage]

I'd think thry'll count Gian and Gigan II as one. I wonder if GINo or Gorosaurus will appear....

[Angiru-San]

Id count Gigan and Revived Gigan as one, and MX and Kaiser Ghidorah as two monsters...theyre the same being....but I seriosuly doubt there are 2 unannounced monsters....

[MechaV]

I'd think thry'll count Gian and Gigan II as one.
And I think they won't, but then again I don't know what to feel anymore. God only knows what else could be lurking in this flick,especially now that Kaiser Ghidorah's been revealed...I suppose I shall wait and see....

[TinyGigan]

Well, let's see, right now we have Godzilla and 12 other kaiju, so Gorosaurus and GINO would round it out to 15. But why would Toho be sneaky about Gorosaurus? I don't see him being a big money draw or latent fan favorite, so why keep a lid on him?
I half expect that Kaiser Ghidorah is being counted here as a distinct kaiju, and that there'll probably be another multiform creature, like Gigan and Reborn Gigan or larval and imago Mothra, and that the "other form" will be called the 15th monster.
That being said, I hope my feeling about that is wrong and that there are still other surprises in store. It'd be pretty swanky if the whole "Godzilla gets killed" story from that Chinese paper turned out to be GINO going down to one of his betters. And hey, I've got no gripes with Gorosaurus either.

[Mr. Camouflage]

I can understand GINO but Gorosaurus was never big. I'd want him back. :)

[Seer235]

If there are they might be Gorosaurus and Mothra Larva, as was predicted a while ago.

[Mr. Camouflage]

If there are they might be Gorosaurus and Mothra Larva, as was predidcted a while ago.
Well why keep the lid on them? They aren't Fan-Favorites like Anguirus or Baragon are.

[MechaV]

I think Mothra Larva probably is in it, just isn't being shown on the site because if we see the moth we think the worm too.

[Mr. Camouflage]

Okay I can see that, but that still doesn't answer why Gorosaurus? Is he being redesigned a lot or something?

[MechaV]

We don't KNOW if it's Gorosaurus, it could be ****ing Gamera for all we know!

...

I shouldn't have said that...

[Mr. Camouflage]

Your right. It would ahve to be something big like Kong or Gamera to keep such a secret.

[Baryonyx13]

We don't KNOW if it's Gorosaurus, it could be ****ing Gamera for all we know!

...

I shouldn't have said that...Way to go. You've started something, I can tell.:dozing:

The first person to start sayin

"Gamera is in it???"

is going to have a few not nice things said to them by me, and probably others, too.

[MechaV]

No doubt I have, I'd best delete it before we get this;

"IT R HAVER GMERA KK!!11ONE OMGWTF!!!!1one"

[Shin lvl2 Goji]

in the words of Porky pig Buhdeebuhdee uh GINO?!?!? I sort of wouldn't be all that surprised though Toho seems to make certain nods towards the GINO movie like G2k being the most obvious one with the close up Godzilla scenes with the car and then even mentioning GINO in GMK.

[Seer235]

Before anything starts here, MechaVaran was joking about Gamera, he will not be in it. And Gino, well before you consider him, remember the reaction the Godzilla fans had to him.

[Metal Zombie]

OMG GAMERA R GONA B IN GFFW 2?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

</sarcasm>

Whatever other kaiju may or not be thrown in that Toho's keeping under wraps doesn't really matter, there's so many others squeezed in that only God knows how this whole movie is gonna play out...

[Goji Son]

Whoa... did you just feel that... that was my will to care... it seems to have fluttered off into the distance... never to comeback... Is it bad if I am more excited about Gojira coming to DVD this year that GFW coming to theaters?

[anguirus55]

Sucks to be you then. I'm psyched.

Even if the movie didn't have a plot I'd go to see fifteen monsters whipping the tar out of each other. Isn't that ultimately what it's all about?

[Angiru-San]

hell yeah! Good point

Im also syked bout this movie, and nothing is going to change that!

So what if Gorosaurus is in or not...look at who else is!

[Goji Son]

Oh I am sure the movie will be just grand it's just all this talk about extra kaiju and blah blah blah is just making me lose all interest until the film comes out.

[anguirus55]

Ah. I see what you mean, and I can sympathize...

[Gorjirus]

I really like the new Gigan suit and the idea of a "Mecha-Gigan" thrills me. One, that means that we get to see him get killed/maimed in a fight with somebody (which is great). Two, he gets to come back and then get killed/maimed again (which is awesome). Gigan is one of my favorite kaiju and the idea of getting to see him in at least two fights is awesome.

[Project Pimp]

IMO, there are only two kaiju Toho would bother keeping a secret -- the American Godzilla and Kaiser Ghidorah. If it was Gorosaurus, they would have announced him along with the others.

[FinalGojira]

you never know what crazy stunt TOHO will pull on this movie. If GINO does appear in the movie, i really hope Godzilla beats GINO's *** to a bloody pulp!!!!!

[Raptor]

hahahaha



and so it begins........
Not today, bucko. Feed a troll, get a warning also.

[Baryonyx13]

Whoa... did you just feel that... that was my will to care... it seems to have fluttered off into the distance... never to comeback... Is it bad if I am more excited about Gojira coming to DVD this year that GFW coming to theaters?
The original Japanese version??? I think I might be with you on that one, I've always wanted to see that movie.

[Zigra]

Umm, did I miss something? Where did all this talk of GINO being in GFW originate from?

[FinalGojira]

look at the first page of the thread and you will see people talking about GINO and Gorosaurus

[Gorjirus]

Yes. I know that, but where did GINO come from? I thought I had read all of the rumors and not once did I see GINO come up. Gorosaurus yes, but not GINO.

[Zigra]

That's what I'm talking about. People in this thread talk about GINO being in this movie like it's either something official or like there is some major rumor going around about it. What started this?

[Deoson]

Gino ain't going to be in it. Understand?

[Angiru-San]

Im also curious about this GINO stuff...

I remember hearing someone say they couldve mistaked GINO for Gorosaurus or Gorosaurus for Gino but I dont rmemeber....I dont think GINO appearing in the REAL Godzillas 50th celebration would make much sense though.....

[Deoson]

I know, WE are the only ones who call him GINO, everybody else calls him Godzilla so you might as well throw in two more Godzilla into the mix along with hundreds of GINO eggs. Even though he's a male and could never truly lay eggs.

[FinalGojira]

i really doubt GINO is gonne be in the movie also, but thats what the people in the first page were talking about :-\

[Deoson]

Well let's please try to drop him from the discussion. Ultraman has a better chance of being in this movie!

[Gorjirus]

Well, it seems that this is now a combined thread. Most likely, Gigan and Gigan II are two different kaiju, just as King Ghidorah and Mecha-King Ghidorah are.

[ALLOSAURZ]

Well, it seems that this is now a combined thread. Most likely, Gigan and Gigan II are two different kaiju, just as King Ghidorah and Mecha-King Ghidorah are.
First off here is where the GINO rumor came from. Brett Homenick on a Yahoo group announced that the following would be in Final Wars. Atragon, Gorath,(I think the X-ians also) and GINO. He was the first person to break this news and most of this has been correct. Now here is why I believe GINO could make a brief cameo. Like it or not a lot of Americans and other non-Godzilla fans recognize GINO. He is newer to the American public. Also some kids saw GINO when they were younger and thought he was cooler then the American Godzilla (Even if they are wrong) as such Toho might see it as a marketing gimic to tie GINO in with Final Wars. Then there is the fact that Toho also knows G-fans hate GINO and would want to see him die/humilated etc.This would delight the G-fans while bringing in some of the younger generation who grew up knowing GINO as Godzilla thus being a win all scenario in their minds. There is also the fact that you can deny all you want but GINO is in fact a little dirty dark disgusting awful etc part of Godzilla's past but it is still his past none the less. So imo if we count Kaiser Ghidorah as a separate kaiju from MX then GINO imo is possibly the 15th monster. Also why was my thread which is bringing new info forward merged with a thread speculating about old info? Just out of curiosity?

[Gorjirus]

Thank you for the explanation. I makes so much sense now.... And I would love to see Godzilla destroy GINO.

[Project Pimp]

First off here is where the GINO rumor came from. Brett Homenick on a Yahoo group announced that the following would be in Final Wars. Atragon, Gorath,(I think the X-ians also) and GINO. He was the first person to break this news and most of this has been correct.

You're correct except for the fact that he never mentioned Gorath; it was X-ians, Atragon, and GINO.

[FinalGojira]

Suppose GINO appears in GFW, would he be a suit, or a CGI?

[ALLOSAURZ]

You're correct except for the fact that he never mentioned Gorath; it was X-ians, Atragon, and GINO.
Eh I was close though. I forgot i first learned of Gorath from that article you showed me. Must have just blended the info together. Oh well most of of what I said was accurate

[Project Pimp]

Suppose GINO appears in GFW, would he be a suit, or a CGI?

A suit would be the most plausible route. Cheaper, more hilarious.

[Deoson]

A suit would be the most plausible route. Cheaper, more hilarious.
Kinda like Alf :laugh:

I really hope GINO isn't in this movie. That would be the most horrible thing that could ever happen to kaiju fans like ourselves. It would be more horrible for words actually. Then Dean Devlin would piss himself when he found out Toho was using his creation without permission. Then they would probably let him work on the movie and he would turn it into...drum roll please...

[Master Fwiffo]

Kinda like Alf :laugh:

I really hope GINO isn't in this movie. That would be the most horrible thing that could ever happen to kaiju fans like ourselves. It would be more horrible for words actually. Then Dean Devlin would piss himself when he found out Toho was using his creation without permission. Then they would probably let him work on the movie and he would turn it into...drum roll please...
Then again, there are the few of us fans who didn't think GINO was the OMG WORSE THING EVER I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111, actualy enjoyed the movie, and would like seeing him fight the real deal.

[MechaV]

GINO's a pretty good movie if you ignore the title.

[FinalGojira]

GINO has really crappy attacks. He doesnt even have radioactive breath! He has "Tornado Blast Roar". What the hell is that gonna do to Godzilla?

[ALLOSAURZ]

GINO has really crappy attacks. He doesnt even have radioactive breath! He has "Tornado Blast Roar". What the hell is that gonna do to Godzilla?
Did Baragon have any special attacks in GMK? What about Angilas in GRA? Or what about Kamakiras, and Ebirah? Just because a kaiju (and yes GINO is a kaiju) doesn't have any fancy rays or what not doesn't mean they can't fight the monster king.

[Solar_Behemoth]

Then Dean Devlin would piss himself when he found out Toho was using his creation without permission.

His creation? HIS CREATION? HIS CREATION????
That's gotta be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read yet.

[Solar_Behemoth]

GINO has really crappy attacks. He doesnt even have radioactive breath! He has "Tornado Blast Roar". What the hell is that gonna do to Godzilla?

I'm sure GINO could pull off some pretty smooth and brutal tooth and claw attacks on Godzilla if they fought each other. Attacks Godzilla would never pull off.

[Master Fwiffo]

The point is GINO is NOT a flashy supah-death ray monster. As he was potrayed in the movie, he'd be able to outmanever Godzilla, and could probably leave some mean bites and claw marks on his person. If he's doing real good, he may even give the Big G a real run for his money.

Of course, one hit with the ray and it's over. But does that really matter? It didnt to GMK Baragon, and heck, even SHowa Mothra did similar.

[HolyGoji777]

thats if he could get to godzilla before a couple of missles kills him.

[Angiru-San]

thats if he could get to godzilla before a couple of missles kills him.

I like GINO...but Im sorry that was just funny....

I can see him sparring with the likes of Ebirah or Ang and getting his butt kicked....

but why are we even discussing this so in-depth? Hes not even confirmed, or concidered for all we know, for GFW!

[Deoson]

Gino's *** would be in the hands of Minya for all I care! GINO is a disgrace to Godzilla and I write his name on every tissue paper before I sneeze in it.

[HolyGoji777]

I like GINO...but Im sorry that was just funny....
my work here is done.

[Deoson]

Then there are some people. No wait, I remember my local newspaper gave GINO nine thumbs up! What the Hell is that?!

[Project Pimp]

GINO is a disgrace to Godzilla and I write his name on every tissue paper before I sneeze in it.

Does anyone else sense the intense irony of this post? ;)

[Master Fwiffo]

Then there are some people. No wait, I remember my local newspaper gave GINO nine thumbs up! What the Hell is that?!

Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, there are some people who LIKED the movie?

I did. Shoulda been named Iguanus (or something), but it was still a good movie.

[HolyGoji777]

yeah it was a good flick...but it should have never been called godzilla. thats my only gripe with it.

[Angiru-San]

yeah it was a good flick...but it should have never been called godzilla. thats my only gripe with it.

I could not agree more with you two....but staying on topic is something we need to do now!

[Deoson]

Yeah let's get on topic before we have to kiss our asses goodbye.

I think Gorosaurus and King Kong might have a shot in being in this movie. Those two are worth keeping them a screct until the movie is just about to come out in theaters.

[Mecha-Rodan]

King Kong is NOT going to be in this movie. Toho is not going to pay Universal for the rights to use the Kong character, ESPECIALLY now that there is a new Kong movie coming out. Sorry kids.

[Mr. Camouflage]

^Well thats a given. No way Kong will be in this at all. But if they are keeping a kaiju secret it would have to be something like Kong to be so secretive about it.

[HolyGoji777]

on topic? but who actually thinks more kaiju are gonna show up? it would be nice but highly unlikely...if there were going to be more id like to see baragon and varan. they could use gmk baragon cuz that design ruled.

[kaijufan1000]

If there were any more kaiju added id want it be Varan. he hasnt been seen since 1968. Baragon or Gorosuarus would be good choices too.

[HolyGoji777]

i wouldnt mind a new monster either since we didnt get one.

[Raptor]

Doesn't Monster X count? Without adding to the spoiler-fest, I think its concept is rather refreshing.

[kent]

Then there are some people. No wait, I remember my local newspaper gave GINO nine thumbs up! What the Hell is that?!


Nine people gave it a thumbs up. It's not rocket science.

[HolyGoji777]

Doesn't Monster X count? Without adding to the spoiler-fest, I think its concept is rather refreshing.
yes it is a refreshing design but ultimately it turns into ghidorah. so yes and no at the same time. i would have liked to seen a new monster or the return of an obscure kaiju...maybe put that kool gxmxmg kameobas design to good use!

[Solar_Behemoth]

I feel I must say this:

The more kaiju we get the more people are going to complain about their favorite kaiju not being in the movie for a long enough time. So really, I hope there are no more kaiju for GFW.

[HolyGoji777]

true... people would complain that dogora wasnt in it or something.