First digital Godzilla movie?

[WitchKing667]

I looked on imdb under the technical specs. and it seems that they are filming it in digital HD. I'm not sure if it's Ryuhei Kitamura's choice (Versus was shot on digital video and all) or Toho's, but I personally am a bit disappointed as I think digital looks like crap compared to film (a friend of mine said that Star Wars Episode II looked a soap opera because of it).

[MouthForWar]

I never noticed much of a difference but thats just me

[Master Fwiffo]

I looked on imdb under the technical specs. and it seems that they are filming it in digital HD. I'm not sure if it's Ryuhei Kitamura's choice (Versus was shot on digital video and all) or Toho's, but I personally am a bit disappointed as I think digital looks like crap compared to film (a friend of mine said that Star Wars Episode II looked a soap opera because of it).

SW looked a soap opera because of bad acting and writing (being the geek that I am, I still liked it) Digital had NOTHING to do with it. Digital looks absolutly crystal clear. No specks, scratches or anything else.

It doesn't matter to me either way though.

[WitchKing667]

That's the problem I have with digital, it's too clear. Film is more artistic, beautiful and actually boasts higher resolution. Granted, digital's rather antiseptic look does benefit some films, so I do still intend to use it a bit as a filmmaker, but I think IMAX should be the future of film, not HD.

[Master Fwiffo]

That's the problem I have with digital, it's too clear. Film is more artistic, beautiful and actually boasts higher resolution. Granted, digital's rather antiseptic look does benefit some films, so I do still intend to use it a bit as a filmmaker, but I think IMAX should be the future of film, not HD.

So.... your problem is that it looks too good? :eyebrow:

I dunno about the resolution, but it all looked fine to me. Digital looks every bit as artistic and beutiful as film as the directer allows it. If your watching a crappy looking movie, itll look crappy whethers is digital or film. But if your watching a really good looking movie (LOTR comes to mind), I can virtualy garantee that digital WILL look better.

[Varan101]

Don't believe anything posted at IMDB.com, because anyone can post news there. There's a TON of fake 'news' over there.

[HolyGoji777]

star wars attack of the clones (why does everyone call the movies episode 1 and 2? i dont hear anyone call return of the jedi episode 6!) was a crappy movie anyways. thats why it looked crappy cuz george ***** lost whatever talent he once had. digital looks clearer and has an overall better picture.

[WitchKing667]

It may be clearer, that is true, but it does not have better picture. The only advantage it really has is clarity and more colors. Film has a richer, more beautiful picture and still has more resolution than HD. I'm not dissing digital, in fact I consider it a very useful filmmaking tool (and if directors want to use than by all means they should) but I just think Godzilla would work better shot on film.

[NinjaBat]

Personally i think film is the best bet for a godzilla well..film. Seeing as our heroes are just men in rubber and latex suiting, when it shows up on screen it will look like exactly what it is...just men in rubber and latex suiting. Pretty much defying what movies are based on, deception, making people beleive what they see is possible.

[HolyGoji777]

you bring up some good points...ill just have to wait and judge how the movie turns out.

[Cookson]

Am sure Toho knows what they are doing. The movie will look great.

[Alien-G]

I hope they don't use too much digital, and if they use any at all that it's used right

[Master Fwiffo]

It may be clearer, that is true, but it does not have better picture. The only advantage it really has is clarity and more colors. Film has a richer, more beautiful picture and still has more resolution than HD. I'm not dissing digital, in fact I consider it a very useful filmmaking tool (and if directors want to use than by all means they should) but I just think Godzilla would work better shot on film.

What? Richer, more beutiful? WHAT? Ok, how is grainy film richer and more beutiful then a high res digital image? That simply doesn't work.

Though I do agree, Godzilla needs to be on normal film, because of the Man-in-suit element. If the picture looks TOO good, it will be too easy to recognize them as Men-In-Suit.

However, your argument against digital is flawed.

[Archaic_Avenger]

let's get back on topic here, shall we? do remember this isn't a Star Wars thread. or forum. or site. this thread is for discussing the new Godzilla movie.

anyways, i'm not sure what it means to be filmed in Digital. is it another kind of filming, or is it the special effects?

if its all digital special effects, i think that's bad, because to much special effects just make them seem special effects, no matter how real they look. that's partly what i didn't like about GINO. but something about how its filmed, then i'm all for it.

on the subject of Special Effects, i think that the only computer animated parts whould be Mothra's wings (this and the music were the only parts i liked of GMK. they did a goood job with Mothra flying), and the beams. other than this, i think they should not be computer animated. i mean, look at the exploisons from GMK and then at say, Godzilla and Mothra: Battle for Earth. i dont know about you, but i think that the exploisons, with smoke and sparks flying in Battle for Earth were a whole lot better than the "cloud of fire" of GMK. the sparks and smoke and things flying somehow seems more real than the firey exploisons, moslty because they are real. there is a distinct difference about these special effects. i mean, really do we want to see computer animated monsters, or some extremely cool suits. and think about the future. if we keep it up with the spicial effects, we wont even have any props and stuff to put in museums. now wouldn't that be sad.

Rodan2000

[HolyGoji777]

ok think of it this way....you have the old way which was filming onto well...film...ya know like the kind you probably put in your camera and take to walmart to get developed. but filming digitally doesnt require film at all...same as if you have a digital camera. hope this helps some.

[Archaic_Avenger]

oh, okay. that help a lot. yeah, i know what you mean now. the digital camera vs. the regular camera. i see. okay well, i dont see a problem with that. its probably much clearer than non digital, and that i dont mind. thnaks for clearing that up.

oh yeah, in this case, it's gonna be one heck of a clear picture. i like digitaly filmed movies.

Rodan2000

[Bagoth]

Why do you guys care what is being done to the flick, it is going to be good or bad. You liked the movie or you didn't like the movie, and it is as simple as that.

[HolyGoji777]

personally the only bad thing i believe can come from filming in digital is possible visible wires and such. other than that whats the point of using film? i dont see how its beautiful in any way however im sure once the style is well out of date 50 years from now it may be viewed as "artistic" but certainly not now. im ready for something new.


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[WitchKing667]

And I'm sure Episode III: Fall of the Jedi(title speculation) will kick GFW's *** in every way.
Yeah, right. I for one think seeing Godzilla kick the asses of ten other monsters around the world will be much funner than seeing sissy Anakin Sykwalker battle crappy CGI creatures and whine for another two hours.

[CBright7831]

I really don't care how it's shot.

[Orga777]

Same here who cares if its in HD or if its suit acting it doesn't matter in the least.

[Gorjirus]

Hmm... Digital or film...

I actually have no preference either way. I would rather see the one that gives me the best picture, and makes me feel like I am actually there. Whichever does that the best, I am for. I could care less about the artistry of a Godzilla film. I am there for Godzilla and the rest of the kaiju. Not how artistic it is. I go for the kaiju. Plain and simple.

[HolyGoji777]

gojirus i think you said it best. i want the better picture.


and thanx sauron. your awesome!

[Sauron]

Ok, this thread has been cleaned up and all the riff-raff that was posted has been swept away. Re-opened for discussion...

[James Ballard]

The reason standard digital films look "too real" is due to the increased frame rate, which makes the images move more fluidly. This won't be the case if FINAL WARS chooses to go fully digital (though IMDB.com isn't exactly the best place to get your info from), since this can be adjusted. Even STAR TREK will be going digital next season.

Advantages of going digital?
- Clean image with absolutely no print damage, hairs, ect.
- Dark/Night shots will look much clearer (remember how dark some scenes in GMK were?)
- Shots can be made faster, and the camera can be moved around much easier.
- Very easy to port to computer to add CGI effets with no loss of quality.
- FAR cheaper than using standard film, meaning more budget can go towards effects work.
- A DVD release straight from the digital source, making the best looking home video release of any Godzilla movie, period.
- It won't rott in a stock room as time goes by. It will look just as good in another 50 years from now as it will the day it was made.

Disadvantages? None.

[Kaiju Nexus]

I completely agree on every point, Jim.

[HolyGoji777]

thanx for clarifying the pros and cons of that james.

[James Ballard]

Going digital would really be a great move on Toho's part. I'd be quite dissapointed if it wasn't going digital. Even films like "GMK" and "TOKYO SOS" are going to degrade over time, since that's just the nature of celluloid film. A digital film is just binary data stored on a computer or other digital medium. It has no way of degrading or wearing over time.

So in another 50 years from now, when you're sitting at home watching Godzilla Pulse-Laser-Cubes in your Holographic Chamber, you'll have a dusty old GMK and a pristine looking GFW.

[Daikaijuking]

I'd think it would be pretty cool if it were Digital, film is good, but it seems a bit old school. Its what most filmakers use nowadays.