Heisei or Shinsei?

[Ben-H]

I don't know if this is the right forum for this thread. If it's not, then a mod please move this topic to the right forum.

Anyway, would GINO and Yonggary be considered part of the Heisei series of kaiju movies or part of the Shinsei series?

[Solar_Behemoth]

GINO is part of the Heisei series of kaiju movies. And Yongary is probably Shinsei since it was made in 1999 but released in 2000, just like Godzilla 2000.

[Emperor Violenjiger]

I have always considered Godzilla '98 a part of the Shinsei series myself, but others have argued it's not. So I don't know. Toho Kingdom listed it under the Millenium Series, and there's always that GMK reference that connects both films... I guess this is the part where I say, it's debatable..(?)

[Ben-H]

Yeah, I was pretty sure Yonggary was Shinsei. But I've always thought GINO would be Shinsei. I consider any fan who was brought into Godzilla or kaiju fandom in 1998 by GINO to be a 3rd generation fan. Thus, I considered GINO to be Shinsei.

NOTE: I am a third generation fan. GINO is what got me interested in Godzilla.

[Emperor Violenjiger]

NOTE: I am a third generation fan. GINO is what got me interested in Godzilla.You hadn't seen any of Toho's films prior to the American Godzilla's release?

[Ben-H]

No I hadn't. I was 9 years old when I saw GINO in theaters. I loved it! (I thought it was the real Godzilla at the time, I was only 9!) I got interested in the Japanese Godzilla. And whaddya know? I liked the real Godzilla BETTER than GINO!

Nowadays, I definitely understand that GINO is most certainly not Godzilla. And while I don't like GINO at all as a Godzilla movie, I do like it when I don't judge it as Godzilla. Mostly my reason for liking it is nostalgia, remembering how amazed and awe-struck I was when I first saw it six years ago.

[Bigmatt]

I have always felt personally that the Heisei series ended with the death of Godzilla in Godzilla vs. Destroyah. The reference to GINO in GMK would seem to indicat that GINO is part of the Shinsei series. I would therefore also consider Yonggarry a Shinsei series monster. Although, I'll have to find his stats and if anyone knows them it would be greatly appreciated if they could post them, but Yonggarry may be a Heisei sized Daikaiju in the Shinsei era. If this is the case he could dominate this universe on size alone he would be twice the size of all other Kaiju ( Well execept for the presumably deceased Cykorr).

Agian I am not sure of his size if he is not in the 100 meter area some please let me know.

By the way Ben-H if GINO was your first exposure to Godzilla you must of been blown away by films like Godzilla 54, Ghidorah The Headed monster, DAM, Godzilla vs Mothra, and Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II when you first saw them?

[Ben-H]

I have considered the Heisei series to end with Gamera 3. The scene at the end in burning Kyoto was the perfect finale to it. Even thought it came out after GINO, I consider it Heisei because it's a sequel to G2. I see it as GINO starting off the Shinsei series, and Mothra 3 and Gamera 3 subsequently wrapping it up for Heisei, with G3 as the grand finale. Godzilla 2000 I felt was the perfect way to get the Shinsei series really going, ending with the scene of Godzilla setting Tokyo on fire.

By the way Ben-H if GINO was your first exposure to Godzilla you must of been blown away by films like Godzilla 54, Ghidorah The Headed monster, DAM, Godzilla vs Mothra, and Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II when you first saw them?

Yes I did.

[Cookson]

Since the Shinsei series starts in the year 2000 I consider Tristars Godzilla part of the Heisei era.

[Bigmatt]

Excellent point About Gamera and the Mothra Trilogoy. I should have qualified my statement by saying that I felt the Heisei series ended for Godzilla with Godzilla vs. Destroyah, but clearly the Gamera and Mothra Trilogies are part of the Heisei series.

[Ben-H]

I would also put Orochi in the Heisei series.

[Bigmatt]

I have finally found Yonggarry stats. He is listed at 500 feet tall in the Reptilian DVD. That would but him at roughly 170 meters tall (167 yards and since a meter is slighty bigger I rounded up)! At 170 meters he is almost three times the sizes of the Shinsei Godzilla, more the twice the size of Heisei Gamera, and he even towers over the Heisei Godzilla by 70 meters. In fact the closest creature I could find to his height is the Heisei Mecha-King Ghidorah at 150 meters, but that obviously still puts him twenty meters short.

Now I know that all specualted battles are done using relative size but using listed size Yongarry 2001 may be the most powerful daikaiju ever. I was wondering of anyone knew of a monster of similar size or larger!

Back to orginal idea behind the thread if Yonggarry is in the Shinsei series as I previously posted that I thought he was then he is clearly the most powerful moster in that universe.

Having said that I still feel that Godzilla is the King of the Monsters and would never suggest other wise!

[Ben-H]

Isn't Gorgo like 500 feet tall too?

[Bagoth]

I don't know, and I don't know that you would really count the Gamera and Heisei trilogies as part of the Heisei. The trilogies are there own thing, should be counted as their series.