1. Godzilla (Millenium) (37.5-2.5) vs. Pulgasari (26-11)

[Raptor]

Godzilla (http://www.kaijuphile.com/rodansroost/kaijustats/godzillamillennium.shtml) (Millenium) has defeated Yonggary (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3692) (27-12), Mothra (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3560) (Heisei) (15-13) and Ebirah (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3376) (0-14).
Pulgasari (http://www.geocities.com/jrgdawg/breviews/pulgasari.html) has triumphed over King Ghidorah (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3691) (GMK) (46.5-10.5), Kameobas (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3564) (15-2) and Gorgo (http://www.kaijuphile.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3379) (4.5-8.5).

(Pulgasari film review by Jordan Garren of THE B-MOVIE FILM VAULT (http://www.geocities.com/jrgdawg/bmovievault.html) and referenced by Aragorn Strider22.)

[Aragorn_Strider22]

Pulgasari eventually goes down.

Godzilla's beam will do almost nothing to Pulgasari except just make him madder, but eventually Pulgasari will get too hot and melt down.

Either that or be pummeled to a pile of scrap in close range.

[The Great MM]

Sorry Aragorn, Pulgasari doesn't work that way. Godzilla 2000 can blast all he wants, but he isn't gonna do any damage. Pulgasari wears down Godzilla 2000.

[Solar_Behemoth]

Godzilla 2000 probably outclasses Pulgasari in hand-to-hand combat as well.
There is so much heat Pulgasari can take, and eventually he'll be a puddle of liquid.

WINNER: Abstain

----Edit: Me and Monster Master are having a good debate on AIM and he is bringing up very good points on Pulgasri's victory. I am abstaining for now.-----------

[Solar_Behemoth]

Sorry Aragorn, Pulgasari doesn't work that way. Godzilla 2000 can blast all he wants, but he isn't gonna do any damage. Pulgasari wears down Godzilla 2000.

Ah, but the kinetic force or G's beam may hurt Pulgasari.
And Pulgasari can take heat, but I doubt an infinite amount.

[Aragorn_Strider22]

That, AND he's not invulnerable at close range, smart? yes, able to take mad damage? yes, invulnerable? No.

Eventually-either through being subjected to too much heat, or to being attacked physically-Pulgasari goes down.

He has nothing to really take G2k down with. How would he defeat Godzilla 2k? Nothing he has really isn't going to do anything to G2k that's not healable.

[The Great MM]

That, AND he's not invulnerable at close range, smart? yes, able to take mad damage? yes, invulnerable? No.

Eventually-either through being subjected to too much heat, or to being attacked physically-Pulgasari goes down.

He has nothing to really take G2k down with. How would he defeat Godzilla 2k? Nothing he has really isn't going to do anything to G2k that's not healable.

Regeneration heals wounds, not stamana. Pulgasari was shown to be extremely fast for an armored monster, and its gonna be extremely hard for G2K to hurt a body of iron. While Pulgasari has the brute strength to pummel G2K to a pulp, and were him down.

[Aragorn_Strider22]

Maybe I voted a bit too rashly in this, I may have to go and watch both kaiju's movies again. IIRC though wasn't Pulgasari's head ripped open by arrows?

[Solar_Behemoth]

Also, remember those iron missles that were launched at G2000?
Those missles rammed into Godzilla's hard skin and did not cause any wounds at all, so is Pulgasari going to even hurt Godzilla with his iron claws?

[The Great MM]

Maybe I voted a bit too rashly in this, I may have to go and watch both kaiju's movies again. IIRC though wasn't Pulgasari's head ripped open by arrows?

Giant rocket arrows, wich hit his eye.

[Solar_Behemoth]

Yes but wouldn't Godzilla's ray eventually hit Pulgasari's eyes?

[The Great MM]

Godzilla 2000 vs Pulgasari

Rules: Pulgasari is the size of G2K
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I'm siding with Pulgasari. G2K's beam was never shown to be that hot to melt Pulgasari's iron hide. G2K will soon either realize this or keep blasting, but Pulgasari was shown to fast for a highly armored monster, and VERY intellegent (enough to understand English). Pulgasari would eventually get close, and thats when the regeneration arguement comes in. Pulgasari will cause wounds, but G2K will regenerate, but he can't regenerate stamina. Now, I imagine Pulgasari as the Rocky of kaiju, Pulgasari will keep coming because he is armored, but i'm not saying G2K won't get any good hits in, I already know pulgasari may get some dents, but G2K will eventually were down. Pulgasari is like a semi truck, a living semi truck, who will keep going until the enemy is down.

I'm up for arguements.

[The Great MM]

Move disscussion to the discuss page I made for the fight.

[Solar_Behemoth]

Here is an interesting debate me an MM had on AIM on this fight. MM has brought out good points, and I really don't know who will win this but I thought G2000 would win before this:

MonsterMaster300: Godzilla 2000 probably outclasses Pulgasari in hand-to-hand combat as well.
There is so much heat Pulgasari can take, and eventually he'll be a puddle of liquid.
MonsterMaster300: did u even see Pulgasari?

Hankzilla2004: Yeah. He is strong
Hankzilla2004: very strong

MonsterMaster300: whats G2K gonna do to an iron body?
MonsterMaster300: Pulgasari will were him down

Hankzilla2004: Pulgasari just has iron armor, he has blood and flesh inside
Hankzilla2004: iron can be melted

MonsterMaster300: yea, but only one place can make em bleed
MonsterMaster300: his eyes
MonsterMaster300: and i didnt see anything hinted that his armor can melt

Hankzilla2004: well it is iron, iron can melt eventually

MonsterMaster300: it glows red when hot, and G2K's beam is hot, but for god's sake, not that hot

Hankzilla2004: it was just boiling water that made pulgasari glow red

MonsterMaster300: dude...he was in the middle of a fire
MonsterMaster300: he then WENT into water and cooled
MonsterMaster300: causing water to boil

Hankzilla2004: ohh yeah my bad....
Hankzilla2004: but normal fire can't melt iron
Hankzilla2004: Godzilla's ray is not normal fire

MonsterMaster300: and G2K can?
MonsterMaster300: G2K's beam never shown it was that hot

Hankzilla2004: true...
Hankzilla2004: but i think eventually it could take him down
Hankzilla2004: if G2000 attack repeatedly

MonsterMaster300: u see how fast Pulgasari is?

Hankzilla2004: yes, he is one of the more faster kaiju

MonsterMaster300: hes gonna be on G2K's *** in a storm
MonsterMaster300: and he has more then whats needed to brake himd own
MonsterMaster300: him down*

Hankzilla2004: :(
Hankzilla2004: i'm being convinced
Hankzilla2004: :( hate it when this happens lol
Hankzilla2004: But Aragorn reminded be that the fact that Godzilla regenerates

MonsterMaster300: Regeneration heals wounds, not stamana. Pulgasari was shown to be extremely fast for an armored monster, and its gonna be extremely hard for G2K to hurt a body of iron. While Pulgasari has the brute strength to pummel G2K to a pulp, and were him down.
MonsterMaster300: regeneration heals wounds not stamina

Hankzilla2004: good point, but pulgasari does not have infinite amount of stamina either

MonsterMaster300: u can be in a 10 hour fight and regenerate each wound, but ur gonna get tired
MonsterMaster300: he has more, hes WAY better armored
MonsterMaster300: the only ray I ever saw that could probably melt the armor is Showa Godzilla's
MonsterMaster300: who litteraly melted tanks

Hankzilla2004: remember thiose iron missles that were launched at G2000?
Hankzilla2004: those had no effect on him

MonsterMaster300: regeneration, if they would have kept a huge assault on him, he would get tired, any monster would

Hankzilla2004: true....

MonsterMaster300: im making a topic for this

Hankzilla2004: good points
Hankzilla2004: I have abstained my vote for now
Hankzilla2004: good debate too :-)
Hankzilla2004: wouldn't godzilla's ray eventually hit Pulgasri's eyes?

MonsterMaster300: depends where Goji ames, he tends to fire at chest leval
MonsterMaster300: but its not sharp like arrows to puncture, itll burn or more, scorch

[The Great MM]

I never realzed how annoying that is when I read what I wrote on AIM...

[Raptor]

Good idea! We can always merge the two back into the battle scenario if the further discourse stays with BOTH kaiju. Pulgasari truly needs as much considered analysis as possible, what with never having gone up against another kaiju.

O/T: Cykor has a bye this round so everyone do their homework! ;)

[HolyGoji777]

too hard to call...abstain.

[anguirus55]

I gotta go with Godzilla here. While KG's armor was insufficent to deal with Pulgasari, this Godzilla doesn't even NEED armor. When those missiles struck Godzilla, we saw visible chunks of flesh being blasted away, and they healed up so quickly he didn't even have time to bleed. No bleeding, no loss of vitality, and Godzilla can use Pulgasari's bulk against him by shoving him over, tripping him, etc. Godzilla is just on the next level of power from Pulgy's last opponent.

You guys know I argued like crazy for Pulgy last time, but I don't think he's walking away with this.

[mechagodzilla3]

This is way to hard of a fight. But i think G2K can win.

[Gorjirus]

With Godzilla's powerful beam, and the habit of going for the head (I think) Pulgasari goes down. Eventually, the iron would heat up and began to cook the kaiju, like an oven, since I don't think he has any place to relieve heat. In fact, if Godzilla hits any part of Pulgasari, eventually he would begin to cook.

[kent]

I see Godzilla winning. Pulgasari may be able to take Godzilla's ray for a while, but not if he keeps blasting it. And this Godzilla is a pretty smart one as well. Plus his HTH combat abilities are somewhat better than most Godzilla's. It will be a close one but I see Godzilla winnning it.

[PyrasTerran]

Can iron withstand Goji's beam? I greatly doubt it..

Heh, Pulgasari would be in total hell if this battle arena brought in a strong rain, after he's been heated up so much...