LOL (KAIJU HQ)

[Kaijukid]

Check this site (http://www.kaijuhq.org) out.
Tell me what you think

[Melkor]

Let me verse you on one of the main things of contempt in this Forum, mainly the Kaiju HQ. Yep, you got it right, the same website you posted. Anything made by Jordan Twining is revolted here, on account of his infamous theft of most of the material in his site. Heck, he even stole some from here, you know, specifically the Kaiju stats. That said, I think it is a common notion for most website owners to hate him. Not only the roost, but also Toho Kingdom, and a LOT more. I do hope you're not in league with them, since if you do, then you have to deal with the angry members and the Administration.

Oh, and by the way, welcome to the Roost, Kaijukid, hope you enjoy your stay here. Trust me, we don't bite, but we're just a bit 'touchy' with certain issues. http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif



Peace,



Melkor



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[Kiryu goji]

How'd he copy us? He's got a cool site too. Plus I can't see how in the heck he copies the roost!  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[spydrmanjr]

Read everything, and look at the pictures. You'll see they are awefully familiar.

[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Kiryu goji @ April 29 2003,17:45)]How'd he copy us? He's got a cool site too. Plus I can't see how in the heck he copies the roost! *http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
Everything on this guys site is pretty much stolen from other Kaiju sites. About 2 years ago he litterly stole every Kaiju stat from the Roost and posted them to his site. The scumbag didnt even have the decency to edit it to make it look like he wrote it. Stats that Clint wrote himself and were totally different than anyone elses. He finally took them all down after we posted about it on every Kaiju forum we could find, guess couldnt handle the bad publicity. He even had the nerve to say he was just using them as place holders until his own stats were done, and that they would all be done by the end of the month. Funny thing, it took him over a year to replace all the stats he stole, guess they really were just place holders for a month. Not only is he a thief, but hes also a liar, his parents must be really proud of him.

More recently he was caught stealing stuff from Toho Kingdom, in large quantities. But TK caught him and again gave him bad publicity and he removed the stuff.

But since he has stolen alot more from other sites as well as the Roost. Just read some of the stuff on his site, hes still stealing from everyone, but now if its text that hes stealing, hes started to edit it to make it seem different, but anyone with half a brain can still tell it wasnt written by him.

Hes just a total loser that cant do anything for himself and has to rely on the work of others to get by. That is what you would call a LEECH, the only problem with that, is that we just can dump salt on him to get rid of him. Unfortunately the Kaiju community has to put up with him, but he must feel great knowing that everyone knows just how much of a loser he really is. I guess every fandom has their fair share of losers, we just got one of the biggest of them all, lucky us.

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[The It]

Quote[/b] (Kiryu goji @ April 29 2003,17:45)]How'd he copy us? He's got a cool site too. Plus I can't see how in the heck he copies the roost! *http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
If you were here just a bit sooner, you would have heared pleanty about him. Like my old RPG site. I never figured out who copied it, for somone did, but I was POSSIBLY Jordan Twinning. If it was, Than I spit on him.


Puny Humans...

[space varen]

<font color='#000080'>my site (http://megaguirus.proboards18.com/) didn't copy anyone's because I don't know how to download stuff off other sites and I don't need to know. &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/megaguirussmilie.gif

<font color='#E77471'>That is one of the best ever kaiju sites! http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/meltdowngojismilie.gif

[Gothmog]

<font color='#FF0000'>Ummm, majin, maybe you should chech what others said before you. Whatever, here`s what I think of this site. Actually, the only good thing about this site is it`s big(but so is Toho Kingdom and the most revered Roost!)and I like the part of the &quot;look-changing&quot;part. Almost every Kaiju site I went to only have Godzilla suit changes. That is a bit boring after a while because if you have seen all the movies you know about the suit changes. The suit history on the other hand is fun and good suit history can be found on Gary`s Godzilla Zone, even though there are only Godzilla suits. But every rose has it`s thorn, because this Jordan dude only notices suit changes in the Godzilla suits(as any idiot can)but doesn`t notice the changes in the Ghidorah suit from 64 to 72. Obviously the suit is changed a little bit in every movie he starred in and so is his roar(cough Godzilla vs. Gigan cough). Overall the site is not too bad, but it feels incompleted and the fact that the facts are stolen just makes me pi$$ed off. http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif .Just my opinion of course.

[Alien-G]

head over to www.kaijuhq.org,they have two petitions that u can sign that may make Sony think about bringing GXM,GMK,and GXMG to the U.S. and hopefully any other upcoming Godzilla films. Once u enter the website scroll down and you'll find it,the G-Fans need all the help they can get.So head on over there right now.

[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 15 2003,20:19)]head over to www.kaijuhq.org,they have two petitions that u can sign that may make Sony think about bringing GXM,GMK,and GXMG to the U.S. and hopefully any other upcoming Godzilla films. Once u enter the website scroll down and you'll find it,the G-Fans need all the help they can get.So head on over there right now.
I would rather never see another Godzilla film than go to that scumbags site. You can simply go down to the general chat area of this forum and find a petition there. And no need bothering with a site like KaijuHQ that is nothing more than some losers attempt to copy and steal from every other GOOD Kaiju site there is on the web.

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[Alien-G]

How do u know he copies other websites?
every website host needs info from somewhere

[baragon2005]

Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 16 2003,20:19)]How do u know he copies other websites?
every website host needs info from somewhere
But he doesn't give credit to any site other than his and MZ.









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[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Alien-G @ May 16 2003,20:19)]How do u know he copies other websites?
every website host needs info from somewhere
Easy, because he has stolen write-ups and other stuff from the Roost, without even changing a single word and was caught. And after letting it be known, on other Kaiju message boards, he admitted it and removed them, tho he still lied about his motives to try to make himself not look so bad. He was also caught stealing stuff from Toho Kingdom, and again the same thing happened, they posted about it on other Kaiju forums and he took the stuff down. He still to this day steals stuff from other Kaiju sites, and im not talking pictures, im talking write-up, commentary and other things that people worked very hard on, and to have some loser come along and steal their work is sickening. Hes just come to learn that he has to slightly edit written content hes stolen, but unfortunately not enough to make it unnoticeable. Sorry, but Jordan is a little whiney, snot nosed, liar, that has to leech off of other sites and others work, and probably has to have his mother wipe his ***, because he is simply to lazy to do his own work.

So yeah, Jordan and Kaiju HQ is not well liked around here, if you havent figured that out by now.

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[baragon2005]

Plus, he stole both those petitions from James Ballard of MaserCity.com








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[baragon2005]

http://www.kaijuhq.org/disclaimer.html So he finally gives up.









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[Kaiju Nexus]

hoorah!! &nbsp;Finally, he has given the respective sites their recognition. &nbsp;Or, well, sorta. &nbsp;He doesn't really mention the roost . . .

[Andross]

Dude, that's no sign of apology. So he mentions that he got some stuff from other sites? Well, he's a liar. From what I understand, he steals stuff from other sites, as he did with the Roost. Speaking of which, he failed miserably to mention...

[Saruman]

ROFL, that is just to funny. Now that hes finding out what bandwidth is all about, and that it costs him money when people link to his pictures he suddenly changes his tune. That is just to funny.

But Andross is right, it isnt an apology, its begging for people not to link to his pictures so it dosent cost him more money to run his site. Hes just trying to sugar coat it like he always does, all he is concerned about is having to pay for his site.

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[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Raptor @ May 23 2003,00:38)]Mess up and it'll come back to bite you, one way or the other. *http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/evilglow.gif
So very true.

Everything ALWAYS comes full circle, even if you may not know it. The Scales of Judgement will always balance in the end.

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[Angiru-San]

<font color='#FF0000'>I searched MSN.com for Godzilla: Final Wars and I found this kewl little site made by a fellow G - F A N in tripod....

The news source is great...right there on the main page and has more than Monster Zero himself.....I would keep up to this site if you want inof....aftertall whoever made it defenetly looks like theyre focusing JUST on G:FW! So heres the link....and CHECK OUT THE FANMADE TRAILER, IT ROCKS!

Godzilla : Final Wars Fansite, By Anonymous (http://gzilla03.tripod.com/)

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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Godzilla : Final Wars!

[kaijufan1000]

<font color='#0000FF'>i've seen that one before. oh yah like around the end of march.

It was from tokyomonsters.com

[James Ballard]

Oh great, more people sucking off my bandwidth.

James Ballard that is my website. Is it Ok that those are in there and if not I will just take them off, It's not a problem.

I will just have a link from my page to your page how about that?

[James Ballard]

Sure, that's cool. Bandwidth consumption has just been getting slightly out of hand lately (granted it's mainly due to people using images from TM in their avatars).

So when will you make a update on your site about my site with your site as I already put something on my website.

[Daikaijuking]

Alright, this better be a joke, because if it ain't whoever made this site is CRAZY and watches way too many kaiju movies. I mean Where do you get the idea that a giant powder shooting moth is gonna come save you one day? No offence to anyone who likes this site or is friends with the guy there, but if you ask me, the guy sounds lik one of those dudes with no life. Then again, if its a big joke, I'm fine with it, but if it ain't....LOL.

[monsterlover1992]

you know i saw this site and it may or may not be old but here you go
http://kaijusos.cjb.net/

[Raptor]

You bet this is "old" - "Thanks to Tokyo Monsters (http://tokyomonsters.com/), we have many more images from Godzilla: Final Wars."

As far as I'm concerned, this adds NOTHING new whatsoever and at the same time takes away from the efforts James Ballard puts into HIS site. Might be interesting to see where Zilla Sushi got the rest of his material.

[Solar_Behemoth]

I hope you are all aware that the owner of that site stole most (if not all) of his info and pictures, right?


That's old Jordan Twining... not being able to get his own info and pictures.
:cough: loser :cough:

Alot of those biographies are inaccurate, but they are okay to look at.

[Morgoth]

Never MM, that Twinning twit had the audacity to wholesale plunder the Roost's stats section years ago, lifting the entire text of everybody from Godzilla 1954 through, I believe Super Mechagodzilla. Word for word. He claimed this as his own work then had the temerity to list 'coming soon' the stats I was still working on, presenting it as if HE was hard at work on them. Then add the fact that when the weasel was caught, he claimed they were just 'placeholders'. I'm not letting this go because thieves are scum and Twinning is a little rat thief ******* scuzzo.

[godofPH]

Well Morgoth, if yer so POed about the little crack head stealing your stuff, steal his GFW stuff and revamp it so it looks like your stuff. An eye for an eye.

[Solar_Behemoth]

Yeah... I agree. Jordan Twining seems to think is site is so awesome when 50% of his data is inaccurate (anyone ever read his Yog data? :laugh: ) and the other 50% is stolen. In other words, he can't do much decent work himself. Hell, most of those pictures of the GFW kaiju were snipped off of Monster Zero.

Time to sit back and watch the sparks fly now....

: puffs cigar :

[godofPH]

^ MM, I see why these guys won't forget that little fooker. I know how much work go's into websites, especially kaiju stats. I'd be pretty pissed too if some little dumpface came in from out of the blue and stole all my hard work.

[Bruticus]

Well Morgoth, if yer so POed about the little crack head stealing your stuff, steal his GFW stuff and revamp it so it looks like your stuff. An eye for an eye.
Nah, Clint isn't that petty. Besides, just having him tear into Jordan like this is much more entertaining than any "eye for an eye" stuff one can muster. ;)

[Saruman]

That's the thing, YEARS ago. Why was I let back in if you feel people can't change? I changed, just about everyone here can vouch for that.
MM, what you did was just stupidity, what he did was much worse. You do fully realize that Clint is a professional writer don't you? Do you also realize that anything written is automatically copyrighted by the author? The fact that it is about Godzilla and related characters is no matter, as the Kaiju Stats are for informational purposes and as such what Clint wrote was indeed his. Do you realize that stealing an authors writing is actually a crime? It's not even comparable to what you did.

You might want to talk to Anthony over at Toho Kingdom since he has had the same experience with him and that was about TWO YEARS AFTER he took our stats. Look at that, two years later and still no change, go figure.:sarcasm:

And FYI, Leopards do not change their spots. You can say you have changed and try to tell everyone that you have, but you haven't. I still see the same type of stuff from you, the only difference, is that you don't want to be banned again, so you do your best to try and keep things in check. Don't mistake trying to control yourself as actual change, they are not mutually the same things. Or do I need to point out your "self-imposed" exile not to long ago? Hell that didn't even last a single full day. That was simply you getting yourself all riled up and losing your cool, showing that you're perceived change is just that, perceived.

But since when have you and OPG become friends? I don't see you two sitting down and having a nice discussion about, oh lets say the Hulk. Speaking of which, have you changed your opinion of the Hulk? Since when you were presented with actual facts before showing the quality of the CGI, that you still claimed the CGI for Reptilian was better, even in the face of actual information saying otherwise? I'm curious as to just how much change has taken place?

Change is very much like Beauty, in that it's really only skin deep, and it's what is on the inside that matters and can't be changed. Simply put, you are what you are.

[Saruman]

Well Morgoth, if yer so POed about the little crack head stealing your stuff, steal his GFW stuff and revamp it so it looks like your stuff. An eye for an eye.
Stealing crap doesn't change the fact that it is still crap. The amout of time and effort it would take to do that and fix it up, well, Clint could write his own stuff, so why bother.
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[HolyGoji777]

as a writer and an artist i take great pride in ANYTHING i create. be it big or small its a part of ME. this person who copied clints work, no matter how small (although i for one feel that putting up stats to all those monsters is pretty BIG) its a part of clint and no one should take that away from him.

[Morgoth]

What Jeff said is quite correct - as a writer I find no crime quite so reprehensible as plagarism. Even though something like a Godzilla stat is hardly something that can really be copyrighted, well, stealing someone else's work and calling it your own is still the mark of a jag-off. Note all those watermarks we put on pictures now? We really didn't want to do that, I feel it greatly diminishes the quality. The reason Brandon does that is solely because of creeps like Twinning ripping stuff off from other people. You want to use something, please ask, or at least give credit where it is due. The Gamera vs Garasharp storyboards would be a good item to examine - the only site that had those was Shrine of Gamera. Rather than steal his images, however, we went and found the DVD in question and harvested images from that disc, then had to combine several frames to create a single image out of them, not to mention the usual clean-up and enhancement that must be made to improve most imported images. Quite different from simply swiping a picture and calling it your own.

Now, I certainly am not about to lower myself to Twining's stature. Stealing his information would be both morally corrupt and fairly pointless - he's not exactly a source I'd put much faith in. Besides, without seeing the movie itself, there is no way I could do a 'combat style' section for the monsters. You can't base that sort of thing on second-hand information and speculation.

As for where I do get information for the stats, well, the films are of course the big source. After that comes Bandai - weight and height figures are always noted on the little tags that are afixed to each figure and a little translation work quickly reveals the necessary numbers. The third source has often been G-Fan magazine, their articles on newer kaiju films often helping to reveal any specific names for new powers a kaiju displays.

The GFW kaiju will be featured in the stats section, don't fear, but they will need to wait until such time as I have seen the film itself and am able to derive the information I need from it.

[Melkor]

What made Twining's deed especially worse was that he plagiarised it, as Saruman and Morgoth have already presented. It would have been better if he placed some semblance of acknowledgment, but no. He deliberately ripped the site's stats, word for word, and had the audacity to call it his own. If you come up with a brilliant idea, and someone steals it and calls it their own, wouldn't you react the same way? Twining is a usurper, he does not deserve his place; his site is what it is today because he profited from other people's efforts. We are not about to do the same repulsive act as he did: that is immoral and may only ignite more trouble in the future. Rest assured, that is not about to happen again. The site will have its own profiles of the GFW Kaiju, and we will have it all without stooping down to his level.



Peace,



Melkor



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[Godzilla40000]

Oh boy! so all ove you are saying thet www. kaijuhq.org is a BIG rip-off?:dontgetit

[kent]

^ At least in the Kaiju Stats department.

[Kiryu goji]

Ah yes.... another good 'ole Twining-bashing! Good times....

[MirrenDono]

Originally posted by Morgoth
What Jeff said is quite correct - as a writer I find no crime quite so reprehensible as plagarism. Even though something like a Godzilla stat is hardly something that can really be copyrighted, well, stealing someone else's work and calling it your own is still the mark of a jag-off. Note all those watermarks we put on pictures now? We really didn't want to do that, I feel it greatly diminishes the quality. The reason Brandon does that is solely because of creeps like Twinning ripping stuff off from other people. You want to use something, please ask, or at least give credit where it is due. The Gamera vs Garasharp storyboards would be a good item to examine - the only site that had those was Shrine of Gamera. Rather than steal his images, however, we went and found the DVD in question and harvested images from that disc, then had to combine several frames to create a single image out of them, not to mention the usual clean-up and enhancement that must be made to improve most imported images. Quite different from simply swiping a picture and calling it your own.
I couldn't agree more.

If you're still iffy on Jordan, you gotta realize how offensive plagarism can be to a person. I like Clint am a writer, almost three years now and a helluva lotta work in it, and plagarism is disgraceful to me. We are obviously both firm, experienced, proud writers, and to us plagarism is even worse. When someone takes your own work and claims it as his own, it's basically like the person saying-

"Oh, I can't do anything good on my own, so I'll use someone's else good work and say it's mine to make me look good"

That's lying, cheating, and stealing. You're making yourself look better than you are, and you're using someone else's hard-worked efforts as your own as if you did then, when the only effort you did was take it and say it's yours. You're hurting yourself too, because it's like saying to yourself that you can't do anything right, so you'll steal something else to make it look like you're good.

I never had any clue that Jordan did this, and for that I cannot say I have not much, if not no respect for him anymore.

[kinggoji]

^ At least in the Kaiju Stats department.

And on his toy pages. A number of the pics are lifted from CT.

Richard