What makes a kaiju Female?

[Black Libra]

Alright, since there's already a "what's a kaiju" type thread, I thought I'd start, "what's a female kaiju" thread. Basically, I want to hear your opinions on what you think, makes a female kaiju.

But first, what I think makes a female kaiju...

Personally, I don't have a problem with anthros. As long as they aren't too anthro, if you get my grip. That means, no human female faces. I hate that, they look ugly. I like reptilian faces, or at least, a kaiju face. A snout, fangs teeth, everything else. That makes it more interesting IMO. And of course, normal female kaiju are fine too. Flying moths, godly plants, mammalian/reptilan crossbreeds (exp: Snowgon from UM Jack).

Non-human faced and normal non-anthro kaiju females are what make female kaiju. That's what I think. Some may find this thread pointless, and only to anger other members who like the so called "kaiju girls". Not true, I only want opinions, no arguements, I hate arguing over pointless matters.

Btw, I will be posting a few of my designs pretty soon, once I get my scanner running. Expect anthro versions of Rolan, Snowgon, Irys, a few Gigan females, and some others from my fan-fictional series. Hopefully...

[The Great MM]

Quote[/b] ]Flying moths, godly plants, mammalian/reptilan crossbreeds (exp: Snowgon from UM Jack).

Actually I think Snowgon is a male, but I may be wrong. But there was a Kaiju couple in Ultraman Jack, Seagoras (male) and Seamons (female).

Seamons and Seagoras (http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/monstergalaxy/seamons_and_Seagoras.htm)

Also, I heard of Manda being female, but I doubt, he seems more male. Also, Harpies are also female only I believe, they have bat and human cross faces. Also, I heard once that Godzilla Showa (1955-1975) was also female, again I doubt. The only female kaiju I know that ARE females are...

Biollante
Mothra
Megaguirus
Seamons

Is Mothra Leo male or female, I herd it being called a male and female, anyone have an exact sex that Leo is?

[The Great MM]

Quote[/b] ]Male   In rebirth three I belive that they say he. And as that is the last of the trilogy that is what I would belive. Although the showa imago was also called a he and she. A She-He?  

Thanks. LOL, I never knew Showa Mothra was a "gender bender".

Also I forgot to list, Legion as one of the kaiju I know is a female.

[Black Libra]

I'm pretty sure that Snowgon is a female, it says so at Wayne's AU! site somewhere. Seamons ain't half bad looking, a bit of a generic design but, oh well. Anyways, I have always thought that Battra was a female, if it's a male, then she can't reproduce then for the next generation like Mothra can, thus, her species wouldn't last very long. Just what I think.

Btw Monster Master, I have a female Manda in my Irys & Vendetta fan-fictional comic series. It looks like the one in Atragon except for eyelashes. I'll post it soon.

[Burkion]

And the more conserversl, Destroyer! Yes I belive that SHE is infact a SHE!

[Black Libra]

Alright, we've been naming and discussing female kaiju, but the main point of this thread is, what is a female kaiju to you? I'd like to hear some opinions.  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[Daikaijuking]

Quote[/b] (Black Libra @ Dec. 27 2003,15:53)]As do I, Super Jet Jaguar. *http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif Here are the kaiju so far that I myself believe ARE females:

Iris (Or Irys)
Destroyah
Snowgon
Rolan (From UM Leo)
Biollante
Legion
Megaguirus
Mothra
Battra
Seamons
Queen Mezard (From UM Gaia)

I can name a few more, but I'm pooped at the moment...
how do you know Destroyah is female?

[Black Libra]

Oh dear, here we go again.... http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif

This is what I said in the old Destroyah gender thread:

I personally think that SHE is a female. Yes yes, sounds pretty strange, but, if you take a closer look at her, she looks quite feminine. Even her roar sounds feminine as well. And take a look at her chest. If you know about crab anatomy, then you know about the difference between male and female underneath on the crabs belly. Her's matches a female crabs. So in my opinion she's a female.

So there.

[Black Libra]

Quote[/b] ]You guys forget about the female Rodan.

Arg, I knew I forgot one. Can't forget the Super/Hyper/Albino Gyaos either. Btw, please do not argue with me about the gender of the Albino Gyaos. To me, it's a female, and I'm standing by my opinion. What's the point of having a male Gyaos if all the females can reproduce asexually?  http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif

[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Black Libra @ Dec. 30 2003,17:36)]Arg, I knew I forgot one. Can't forget the Super/Hyper/Albino Gyaos either. Btw, please do not argue with me about the gender of the Albino Gyaos. To me, it's a female, and I'm standing by my opinion. What's the point of having a male Gyaos if all the females can reproduce asexually? *http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif
Albino Gyaos is fan made and thus has no bearing on the issue.

Gyaos as it stands are asexual, making them neither male or female.

As for Destroyah, well he/she isnt a crab, so the anatomy is meaningless in that case. In reality, Destroyah is probably both male and female as its made up of many smaller creatures. I think its safe to assume that their would be both male and females mixed in.

Oh and going with the anatomy thing, Mothra couldnt be female. Only MALE moths have the "furry" antanne, female moths dont have that feature.

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[Kaiju_Sensai]

<font color='#008080'>The only ones I know are surely female are:

Mothra
Biollante
Legion Queen
Female Rodan
Jaiger
Ogra (Gorgo's mom)
Female Gappa
Gakma Beta
Kroiga (from Latitude Zero)
Megaguirus

[Raptor]

If you mean differences in appearance between male and female OF THE SPECIES, I think it would depend on its &quot;heritage&quot;. Some animals you cannot readily tell the sexes apart. There was also a big debate about Titanosaurus because of certain &quot;features&quot;. http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[imposterzilla_exe]

yeah what's funny is human's use mammalian bias for dinosaurs which are more related to birds, so that point is null and void.

[Archaic_Avenger]

Mothra has to be a female, all of them, because they are just plain...females. &nbsp;i cant explain it, but they hold sway as a tribute to the female kaiju fans, and although they call her a she and a he, it's just not right with someone with a name like Mothra to be male.

Rodan2000

[Raptor]

This might be stemming from certain languages (Latin comes to mind) where nouns and proper names ending in &quot;a&quot; are often female. MAIASAURA (note the feminine form of the word for lizard, also seen in Leaellynasaura) particularly comes to mind when it was given to a species of dinosaur to denote 'good mother'.

[SuperXAsh]

yeah im the guilty party on that Titanosaurus and his amazingly huge chest topic... http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

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Now while a female kaiju's appearance depends on whose creating her, here's some stuff that I know...

Depends on the species really. In some species, the females are bigger than the males, like insects, and other such things. also females have distinct features or even different colors. So if there were to be a different gender of a Mothra, that one would either be bigger or smaller than the Mothra we've been seeing, and maybe have a totally different color scheme to his/her wings.

I also wish Toho would have made a bit more of a distinct difference between both Rodans in their debut film. Maybe give the male rodan a more colorful crest or something around those lines.

Or like the movie Queen Kong, she has some major differences between her and her famous counterpart... though her movie was more or less a spoof of the 70's Kong.

Now on power/strength levels, that's all dependant on whose making the storyline really.

The &quot;Kaiju Girls&quot; that you mentioned, from the infamous Neo Monster Island website, are more or less a bit more on the side of desireable features and sexual interests, than actual female kaiju. Though to me, there's nothing wrong really with an anthropomorphic (or however ya spell it) kaiju. There is some things called DNA splicing, what traits are more dominant in the combining, or the very cool &quot;Godzilla-Humanoid&quot; character &quot;Zeshed&quot; that there was some pictures of a while back on some websites. Zeshed was the result of G-Cells being introduced into a human females body, and the explosive results of those, which was a rather large humanoid monster.

Hope I was on topic... to a degree.

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[Husnock]

Quote[/b] (SuperXAsh @ Jan. 12 2004,16:26)]The &quot;Kaiju Girls&quot; that you mentioned, from the infamous Neo Monster Island website,
*Shudders*

On Mothra Leo's gender, it was stated several times throughout the Rebirth series that she's a female. &nbsp;It might just be bad dubbing, but I'm going with it anyways. &nbsp;As for the antennae, well, Toho isn't the most accuracy-strained moviemaking company, after all... &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Desu-Goji]

The Adult Destroyah's roar was supposed to sound Demonic, he/she didnt sound so freminine in the Flying Form. http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Berserk_Seraph]

*wades in cautiously*

&nbsp; &nbsp;We know that Megaguirus, and Femme Rodan are female. One can assume that while the Legion is barely biological in nature its 'queen' is female, as well. Jiger's called female in the RR stats but I've yet to see the film (But a female destructive deity seems appropriate...)

&nbsp; &nbsp;I'm hesitant to dub Biollante a female- while it is a woman's DNA, it's also Goji's cells. Also, plants can have (if memory serves) both genders on different portions of the plant.

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;To be perfectly honest, because a Kaiju is usually not a member of a species, it's difficult to place gender. It might even be academic to do so - we all have our little theories. Mothra in all forms 'feels' female to me, even though Leo is apparently supposed to be male- she/he is a protective deity made of the forces of 'Mother Earth' and strikes me as a nourishing, protective mother of the human race (Much as Battra is a similarly protective mother of nature)

[juan]

The Rebirth Mothra, eh? I've seen it subbed and dubbed. &nbsp;In the subb, at least the one by Video Daikaiju, that Mothra is called a he. In the dubb released by Tristar, that Mothra is called she. As for the genders of other Mothra's those mothra's are either shes or its. For example, in &quot;Godzilla and Motha: The Battle for Earth,&quot; the Cosmos refer to Mothra as an it. The young girl calls them Mothra a he.
&nbsp; Considering that Mothra is almost always called a she Mothra is best called a female. As for Mothra &quot;feeling&quot; female, this is probably because Mothra is often portrayed as being kind and gentle. Such nurtuting qualities are often thought of as being female in nature.
&nbsp; As for creatures such as Destroyah, the situation is different. Destroyah has been called female because the shape of the chest is similar to the shape on female crabs. However, Destroyah is neither a crab nor related to them. Since Destroyah is called a he in the film, it is likely the film makers intend for us to think of the monster as a he. So &quot;he&quot; it is.
&nbsp; As for the Gyaos, ADV's oft praised dub refers to the Gyaos in part one as being both male and female, thus these creatures are hermaphrodites. The common, and distasteful, slang is &quot;shemale.&quot; This is similar in nature to Gino.

[Cyndi]

yeah what's funny is human's use mammalian bias for dinosaurs which are more related to birds, so that point is null and void.

Agreed.

S'why when I made Shezilla, I reduced some features and enhanced others. Her dorsal plates are rounder and smaller, much less impressive than Godzilla's, but her claws are longer than his. Her body is slimmer and her color is slightly lighter. She's also less aggressive and more shy than Godzilla, but if she had lived to lay an egg she would have been VICIOUS to anyone who came near it if it wasn't herself or Godzilla.

You just look at her and can tell she's a girl, or at least you can when I draw her ^^;

Btw, they did it like birds, too - cloacal kiss. I just can't picture Godzilla, who walks UPRIGHT, having a lizard's backwards-facing reproductive organs(hemipenii or whatever those two thingies are called).

[biochemitra]

s for creatures such as Destroyah, the situation is different. Destroyah has been called female because the shape of the chest is similar to the shape on female crabs. However, Destroyah is neither a crab nor related to them. Since Destroyah is called a he in the film, it is likely the film makers intend for us to think of the monster as a he. So &quot;he&quot; it is.

Destroyah was intended to be a crustacean monster, thusly if some logic that would dictate a female crustacean is applied, Destroyah is likely female.
Why are you convinced she has nothing to do with crustaceans?

Besides, that was the dub where she was referred to as a "he". We have no idea what the original intent was. Well, actually we do have some idea, because she was intended to be a crustacean monster and meets physical qualifications for the female gender.


But so long as no one comes in with any of that "Destroyah is made of multiple creatures, meaning he's genderless" banter, I'm good.

[Cyndi]

Lesse, females....these are just opinions from my imagination, they are by no means canon.

Ghidorah species: Same size or larger than the males, lacks the central horn on each head and has a longer mane. They stay with one mate for a lifetime, coming together when they are ready to mate and then separating again. Females lay one egg. They don't raise their offspring and the baby hatches ready to survive alone.

Gigan species: Much larger than the male, big fins on the back, black and silver coloring. I see this species as being like a hive with one queen and several drones that feed/impregnate her so she produces several offspring that are raised by a group of 'drones'. These children grow up into the 'collective'.

Anguirus species: Indistinguishable. Mate for life. The young are raised to maturity and then move on to live on their own.

Manda species: Females have a long silver mane and are covered in silver or black feathers. Polygamous, females raise the young until they are mature enough to start mating.

Godzilla species: Lighter coloring, slimmer, smaller in stature, less pronounced dorsal spines and longer claws. Mate for life. One egg in a clutch and the young remain close for life.


Well those are mine...