Cryptozoology

[Raptor]

Here's some references to start things off:

Anything by Loren Coleman might be helpful. "Mysterious America" is one of his best and he is one of the top Sasquatch experts alive. (He got started as a child viewing Honda's "Half Human." Even a G-related connection to all this!http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
The best all round book could be "The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings" by John Keel. The one out now is an update and reprint of his 1970 classic on monsters. It's also  well researched.

And here are some "subjects" to look (out) for:

Some monsters from the past:

The Kongamato (Africa): a flying creature which has a beak like a bird but with teeth and skin like a reptile and bat-like wings, best know for its agressiveness because it attacks and even kills people who dare to enter its territory.

Sea monsters are always good (and enduring) tales to follow up on.

There is also THE MUSEUM OF UNNATURAL MYSTERY (http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/)

[DragonLord]

<font color='#FF0000'>Loren Colemen also wrote &quot;Cryptozoology: A-Z. &nbsp;A great book.
Websites:

http://www.theshadowlands.net/home1.htm

http://www.cryptozoology.com/

[Emperor Violenjiger]

Now, now... before I begin, all debates on whether aliens exist or not, or whether they're satanic demons or they really are beings from outer space ARE to remain out of this discussion... you wanna debate it.. make your own thread. http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Now, back on topic....

Has anyone here ever been (or think they have been) abducted by aliens? Has anyone of us ever had an encounter with a being (supposedly) from another world? Have you ever woken up to find yourself surrounded by alien-like creatures in your room? Or has anyone on this board had a strange encounter with a Flying Saucer/U.F.O.?

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[Raptor]

Meet the Missouri Momo Monster (http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/creatures/momo.htm)! In SW Missouri during the 70's, there seemed to be several sightings along the Spooklight Trail. The Spooklight actually exists (do a Google search). It actually made an episode of In Search Of... The MO-MO was just some stupid kid in a monkey suit with glowing eyes who almost got shot!
This is a violent Bigfoot, killing dogs and chasing people. No Harry and the Hendersons around these here parts! And around SW Missouri, in the Joplin area, just because they had some guy on TV in the monkey suit in handcuffs
doesn't mean Mo-Mo isn't still out there!! &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

From Oklahoma comes &quot;the friend who worked for the local sheriff's department at the time who witnessed a large serpent-like creature in the lake close to where they live. This was back in the '80's and she and a small crowd of other onlookers saw it too. She said it was every bit of 12 feet long. The story even made it into the local newspaper. The same friend spotted the creature a second time a few years later. They don't have gators in Oklahoma so it wasn't that and the snakes and fish around there don't get that big. To this day, it remains a mystery as to what it actually was.&quot; At a very secluded area of the same lake several years after the creature story, a big honkin' beaver showed up!

[Project Pimp]

Today was the first time I came across it. I read this report (http://www.rense.com/general32/strange.htm), which I found truly unnerving. It literally scared me. So did the second part (http://www.rense.com/general32/utah2.htm) of it. This isn't just another crazy whacked out site though, I've found that everything on it is backed by an overwhelming amount of evidence. I even checked the NIDS website for some photographs of cattle mutilated from this incident. This story is just so fantastic and compelling, I can't help but share it with others.

[Raptor]

There should be a listing of Big Foot movies in the Non-Kaiju Movie chat.
If anyone knows of other applicable &quot;creature features&quot;, please list them, even if so many seem to take &quot;liberties&quot; with the source material! &nbsp;http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[Arose]

Does anyone here remember a website called Paranormal News Network (or P3N for short) ? &nbsp;I used to frequent that site every day. &nbsp;Always had at least three new stories of UFO or cryptid sightings or other phenomena such as ghost, time travelers, etc. &nbsp; Admitedly, some of it was horse ####, but there was alot of it I found quite credible.

I filed a report of my own there once about something that happened to me back on July 2, 1997, when I was 12. &nbsp;If the site was still up, I'd link, but I think I have the actual report still here somewhere. &nbsp;I can scan it and post it later if anyone is interested. &nbsp;Word of warning though; my story always gets me a little freaked out.

[Dan]

Article (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/11/mexico.ufos.ap/index.html)

Video (http://www.comcast.net/providers/fan/popup2.html?v=9687984) (let it load)


Now this is very weird.... &nbsp;what are your guys' thoughts. &nbsp;This is one of the most convincing UFO footage i've ever seen, personally...

[Archaic_Avenger]

oh crud. &nbsp;we're doomed. &nbsp;let's just hope they dont try a &quot;check mate&quot; move again.

Rodan2000

PS, this is also a little more convincing thanks to having recently seeing the very realistic mini series: Taken.

[Raptor]

Here's some MORE (http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3791) &quot;sightings&quot;. Reminds me of tractor lights, actually...

[Evil alla Pure]

Do you think that there really are other lifeforms in the universe besides us? &nbsp;Do you think the government is trying to cover it all up? &nbsp;Or is it all just one big hoax? &nbsp;What about Bigfoot, The Loch Ness Monster, ghosts, or anything else? &nbsp;I believe in all of them. &nbsp;I want to see what all you guys believe in. &nbsp;And if you have any stories to tell I'd like to hear them.

[Zigra]

<font color='#0000FF'>I believe in the possibility of those things, but I can't really claim to know whether they exist or not.

Plus, I don't know how people can not believe in the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. Yeah, we've got this vast expanse of existance, and only this tiny speck of dust we call Earth could ever form life. Whatever.

[Evil alla Pure]

Quote[/b] (Raptor @ Dec. 12 2003,20:46)]The Kongamato (Africa): a flying creature which has a beak like a bird but with teeth and skin like a reptile and bat-like wings, best know for its agressiveness because it attacks and even kills people who dare to enter its territory.
I heard of that thing sounds like some kind of pterodactyl to me.

[Raptor]

Quote[/b] (Rodan2000 @ April 03 2004,17:53)]Raptor, have you heard of the Boggy Creek Creature who hails from Arkansas? *it got a movie (and sequel) and also made it to a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 episode (the best one.)

Rodan2000
Yep, our very own Big Foot (and not the one from Jonesboro). He gets his fair share of notriety, even on about.com (http://littlerock.about.com/cs/urbanlegends/a/boggycreek.htm). This guy has had several other appearances (http://home.fuse.net/rschaffner/fouke.htm) (besides in the movies) and is probably the state's most famous critter (other than assorted politicians!http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif &nbsp; http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Solar_Behemoth]

Every heard of the Mothman? I bet you guys are familiar with the hit 2002 movie The Mothman Prophecies, that creature was freaky! I've done alot of research about the Mothman, who resembles little like a moth, and it is very convincing.

[Evil alla Pure]

^
I don't know about the Mothman he doesn't seem to have an actual thing of origin, except if your one of those people who have those crazy visions of aliens, but, there is a possibility he exists so I'm not going to totally denounce my belief in the Mothman.

[Shin lvl2 Goji]

<font color='#728FCE'>There are giant vampire bats in South America I think the Mothman is mistaken for probably one of those. They're said to have a 5 ft wingspan and I forget how long but close to a human's size creepy stuff you hope you never run into one of them.

[Godzilla guy]

<font color='#ADA96E'>I beleive in most of those things. Has anyone heard of El Chupacabra (the goatsucker) I think that is an alien. And I think that the mothman is a new species that people haven't discovered yet, (gorilla story, anyone?) The only supernatural thing I dont beleive in are outrageous alien sightings such as &quot;I was abducted by cute furry wite aliens and they taught me to speak there language&quot; and people who have claimed to be able to speak an alien language. I once saw a person on a talk-show thing saying he had met an alien from Jupter and they taught him to speak Jupiter. He was clicking his tounge and then he said &quot;That means hello and err good day&quot; He was hesitant when he said that and I didn't beleive him. But nearly everything else I beleive in.

[Desu-Goji]

go to AmericanMonsters.com and read about Mothman. Theres enough evidence that Mothman is real.

[Gorjirus]

<font color='#FF0000'>I believe in most of that stuff. I am sure that some of it is faked, mainly by attention getters, but I believe that it is real. In fact, if I ever have enough money, I would like to go to that ranch that Pimp posted a link on. I could probably get Dante to go with me too...

[Gorjirus]

<font color='#FF0000'>I just remebered two experiences that I have had. One might be easily explained, but I doubt the other one could.

The first was that one afternoon I was waiting for my mother and sister to come in the car. I was looking out the window when I saw what I thought was an airplane (it might have been, but wait). It was just flying along, but then I tried to stare at it. Now, I do wear glasses/contacts, but I still don't have the best eyesight in the world. But as I looked at the object, it seemed to come into focus, I could see angles and the exact shape of it. And it had to be at least 20+ miles away. This in itself was weird, but as I was watching it, the object stopped, and I could no longer see the details of it. I blinked, trying to clear my eyes for I had been staring for about a minute. When I looked for it again, it was gone. This was about 3 or 4 years ago.

Another event. For one thing, we have a graveyard next to our house. And not one of those large church graveyards. It is a small, private graveyard, and I have no idea as to why it is even on our property, though it has been here before I was born, and before my grandfather even bought this property. It has around 20 gravemarkers in it. But one October/November afternoon I was down by the small patch of tall weeds/grass that is next to the graveyard (which has no real meaning to this story, it is just freaky) with my dog. We were just playing in the grass. When I noticed that a large patch of grass had been flatend when I followed a trail of bent grass. I thought that perhaps a deer had laid there until I noticed that it looked like a humanoid had laid there. I laid down in the patch and it had seemed as if a person had slept there. But it was a large person. When I got up, the form had to be at least three feet taller than me, which would put it at around 8 ft, as the impression of my body was swallowed by the impressoin already there. By then my dog had caught up to me. She instantely stopped. The fur on her back was standing up on end and she was growling. She started sniffing the impression furiously. She then bolted through the fence that is in the back of the small lot into the trees, and as I watched, into the cow field. My curiosity significantly peaked, I went back to the spot and started to inspect the ground. Eventually I found a foot print that had broken the and left an impression in the dirt/mud. And it was not mine, as the was an indention for toes. Ther were five, and it was about four-five inches longer than my foot. And I doubt a person would walk barefoot in October/November. The dog finally came back, thoughrly winded, and was extremely nervous anytime we went back down into the hill.

Another story I have doesn't involve me, but my parents and my aunt's (who lives right up the road) three dogs, which are Catahoulla lepord (sp?) dogs, breed to hunt in the Louisiana bayou for boars (my aunt is a dog fanatic). One Sunday morning, while I was at Sunday School, they were sitting in the kitchen at the table. My mother said she could hear my aunts dogs barking. Then she said she could hear what was a scream like she had never heard before, almost like a person she said, but it clearly wasn't. At this my dad went outside, and he could hear one of the dogs yipping as if it were in pain. He said the sound came from the hills east of our house toward my aunt's. Later that day, we visited my aunt's, and one of the dogs a piece of high tensel wire around in nose, almost as if something had broken a piece of the fence and wrapped it around the nose. Another was bloody, but had no wounds. And the bloody one, without leaping up can see into our Grand Marquis' car window, and has a head about 7/8 the lenght of my keyboard. My dad and I searched the hills and found a cow carcass and it was missing bits and pieces.It seemed to me almost as if something had been eating the carcass by tearing pieces of with their hands, as there was no dog bite marks that I could find.

And I know that Dante has some stories as well.

[kent]

I believe in the possibility of most of these things. But I do believe in other life out in the universe. Like Zigra said, it would seem just odd that this planet, out of the HUGE universe, could produce life.

[HolyGoji777]

how about the monster of lake champlain? in the adirondack mountains which i live about 4 hours away from and visit frequently there is a legend in the town of lake champlain of a sea monster named "champ". you could probably find some info on it. they even market champ in the town.

[UltraGojira]

Not to be rude, but I don't think that I believe in any of those stuff, but I do agree that it could be possible. It may happen, it may not happen, but for now, I'm leaning towards "It may not happen."

A Loch Ness Monster? I'm really confident that he doesn't exist. Some may believe that there is a Loch Ness Monster, but I really don't believe in him.

Aliens? Again, too close to call, but I think it's not possible.

UFO? Is it really a weird-shaped aircraft? Again, it may happen, but I'm pretty confident that it's not possible.

Bigfoot? Uh, I don't think so.

Again, anything is possible, but I'm really 95% confident that it's really not possible. I really don't believe in that stuff, but hey, anything can happen... maybe right now...

[Darkcancer]

Well, i believe in most of it. I have always wanted to hunt the different kinds of creatures that poeple don't believe exsist.

[BS Digital Q]

The cryptozoology researcher strikes again.....sadly.

First off, I'm really saddened when people group cryptozoology with the supernatural. Cryptozoology doesn't just include weird creatures; it's a scientific study of all unknown creatures. That includes "lesser" things like new species of insects and such. So don't think sasquatch, Nessie, el chupa, sea serpents, and the yeti are the only ones.

Raptor: John Keel isn't very credible.

"Alien abductions" (at least the ones at night) are probably caused by sleep paralysis arts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html (http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html).

The Oklahoma creature was probably a large sturgeon. They're somewhat common and grow to be pretty big.

Pimp: Rense isn't credible. While that story is well-circulated and might be true, don't believe half the things on that site. They put anything and everything on it.



Some comments:

The Boggy Creek creature was made up. While there may be some sightings of sasquatch in Arkansas, that creature was made up.

The Mexican UFOs: some scientists offered explanations. None of them fit them. Consider those objects "unsolved."

The Kongamato: there are other cryptids (creatures studied in cryptozoology) that match this one, like the Olitiau and the Ahool. It's probably an unknown species of bat.

The Mothman & the Mothman Prophecies: the movie doesn't do the book justice. And PureEvil, clarify on "a thing of origin." I'd more likely believe in Mothman than extraterrestrials having the means to visit Earth.

EvilGMKGoji: Not vampire bats.

GodzillaGuy: Just so you know, life forms like us couldn't exist on Jupiter anyway, due to the mass.

Desu-Goji: No, there isn't. Science needs a body.

Reaper: -_- How is it a sea monster if it lives in a lake? It's a lake monster. (sorry if that sounded rude; it's a pet peeve)

UltraGojira2004: How can these things "happen"?? What do you mean? You don't believe in it but other people do? What's the point of saying that? You may want to word it a bit better.

And here's the last thing. If any of you have any questions regarding cryptids, go to cryptozoology.com first. You will get a good, scientific answer.

I totally respect you on this, Rodie. However, I just happen to be one of those people that these things happen to. In fact, I saw recently what appeared to be a large, around seven feet in diameter, rock in the water of a local river (A branch of the Monongahala [Hope I spelled that right.].). Upon closer inspection, I realized that it was moving relative to the shoreline. I tracked it a little way, and eventually lost sight. Also, both my mother and sister saw a UFO, and they don't believe in aliens.

[Evil alla Pure]

Sorry I should have made it more clear. When I said a "thing of origin" I ment where he could have come from. Like Bigfoot for instance, he could be a Gigantopithicus, a type extinct large ape, or Nessie being a pleisiosaur.

[Rodan, Messenger of the Skies]

BS Digital Q: Thank you. I'm not sure exactly if I worded it correctly, if I worded it at all to begin with. I believe that an extremely small number, about five percent, of reports are authentic. Yours may be one of them. But how do you know these UFOs are manned? ;)

About your mother and sister's sighting: with all due respect, people have mistaken planets for UFOs. I can't really say anything right now, as you haven't given me any details. If you want, PM me the sighting. I'd be glad to give you an opinion on what they saw. :)

What I'm doubting is extraterrestrials intelligent enough to create spaceships able to travel millions of mile in space, then come to Earth to do relatively nothing. If they are taking humans, which I heavily doubt they are, or taking notes on how much polluted our planet is, they'd have to also have spaceships that travel incredibly fast.

PureEvil: Ah. Couldn't Mothman, if it exists, be a new species? And it seems to be related to the European "owlman" sightings.

Gigantopithecus, while a more plausible theory than others put forward, cannot explan more than 80 percent of reports. It (if memory serves) slouched to the ground like modern apes, and its head is more rounded than sasquatch.

Plesiosaurids definately cannot explain Nessie and other lake serpents. First, they'd need a breeding colony (they'd be discovered, then). Second, even a rogue would've been sighted more. And for the plesiosaur-inclined, remember, there is no possible way there are underground or cave tunnels leading out of Loch Ness to the ocean.

I don't believe Nessie (if it ever existed) even exists anymore. If it ever lived, it was probably a new species or (believe it or not, this is THE most plausible theory) an extremely large invertebrate such as a slug or mollusc.

[Evil alla Pure]

When I mentioned Gigantopithicus and the plesiosaurid theory I was just using an example. And your thoughts that lake serpants could be large invertabrates I don't find that farfetched. Now I know this might sound a little stupid but could large slugs could have been as plentiful as the dinosaurs a long time ago? Weren't modern day animals like salamanders, crocodiles, and dragonflies once very larger than they are today? And Mothman I didn't say I don't believe in his existance. I was just saying he has no known source of animal to be, for lack of better phrase, related to. Like Bigfoot is clearly some kind of ape or the that sea/lake serpants are mollusks.

[HolyGoji777]

i know that "champ" would be a "lake monster" but the OFFICIAL name is the sea monster of lake champlain. plus lake monster just dont sound right lol.

[godofPH]

The study of animals rumored to exist,but have no physical proof of existence. Cryptids are things such as Bigfoot,Nessie,El Chupacabra,Mothman,etc. I beleive in most of them. What do you people think about them?

[Emperor Violenjiger]

Such a fascinating subject. And yes I do believe in most of these creatures, I believe in a lot of things. Most people say, these things can't exist? I say, why can't they?

NON-BELIEVERS SHOULD BACK OFF.

[Tomzilla]

I love Cryptozoology. There are so many mysteries out there that involve abberations worth reading about. In my opinion, it's best to leave these mysteries a mystery. In yet, I still find it fascinating to try and discover the unknown.

I believe in Big Foot. I also think there is something in Loch Ness...

[Husnock]

I beieve in alot of 'em. Really interesting subject, IMO.

[Husnock]

Hell Yeah! A believer! Which cryptid is your favrit?Call me bland, but definitely Nessie. Mothman's always struck my interest, though, but it's always creeped me out more than anything ('specially after that movie).

[godofPH]

Call me crazy,but my absolute favorite is El Cupacabra the Goat Sucker. Not the little black dog, the one that looks like a cross between an alien and anguirus.

[godofPH]

Every heard of the Mothman? I bet you guys are familiar with the hit 2002 movie The Mothman Prophecies, that creature was freaky! I've done alot of research about the Mothman, who resembles little like a moth, and it is very convincing.
I know, Mothman's name throws a lot of people off. He was named after a villain on a bat man TV show at the time he was first seen. They should make a Bigfoot vs Mothman movie, lol.

[Kaiju Fan]

I definitely beleive some of these things exist.There's so much out there that's unexplored and so much we don't know about. "There are more things in Heaven and Earth for ratio than are dreamt of in your philosophy" that quote is true. Scientists discover all sorts of strange creatures all the time and man's knowledge about the world, though vast, is really pretty limited. I do believe the Loch Ness monster exists. Who knows what else could be lurking eluded by human eye somewhere in the world, especially in the ocean's depths?

It's "Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than.......". Sorry, that's my favorite play so it's like a peeve of mine.

[Kaiju Fan]

Yes, I'm a beleiver (and to those who do not beleive, why are you afraid to?). My favorite cryptid is Mothman. It's pretty mysterious, and that's why I like it/them.

Well it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism in you b/c otherwise you'll fall for anything and everything that comes your way (sorta like John Keel....). It's just when you become a debunker like Philip Klass and ignore evidence that is clear as day to someone else who examines it, then there's a problem.

[Cole Deschain]

My favorite... well, it's a toss-up between the Yeti and Nessie.

Although the Beast of Gevedaun's got an interesting history... (Even though I'm inclined to believe it was a hyena of some sort...)

[Gorjirus]

I too love Cryptozoology. Though one of my favorite things I have read was one thread here. If only I could find it (it was posted by Project Pimp when he still had Ash as his avatar).

[Raptor]

See Page One of this topic. Can't let these guys get away! :D

[Kaiju_Sensai]

I love cryptozoology. My favorite cryptid is a toss up between Mokele-Mbembe & El Chupacabras. My favorite cryptozoologist is a toss up between Karl Shuker & Roy Mackel. I believe in all that stuff. Ya know ghosts, aliens, and the lot. I don't believe in magic though. Miracles yes, magic no.

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/280/Chupacabras003.jpg

[Solar_Behemoth]

I have always been intrigued by the topic of cryptozoology.

Yeti, Champ, Nessie, The Enfield Entity, you name it! However, I personally think it is mostly a bunch of foolishness.

The cryptid that has compelled me for a long time (even years before the movie) is the Mothman. The story is incredible and mind-blowing. It is so erie.... and I do believe there was something, a dark entity, lurking in Point Pleasant in 1966-1967. The sightings through that time period come in the 100s...

I'm sure alot of you know the story.

Then comes along ignorant people who simply chuckle when they hear the name "Mothman." :cursing: :cursing:

People ignore the fact that during the time of the Mothman sightings, there were UFO sightings in the 500s throughout the Ohio Valley, ghost activity, strange men with abnormalties on their bodies, sightings of several other weird beings, and finally, the collapse of the Silver Bridge in December, 1967. 47 people died, but people through out the area also vanished so they were presumed dead by the tragedy.

I think it was all biblical demons playing mind-games with people.
Things like this have been around since our creation.

[Evil alla Pure]

I know this is going to sound stupid but please don't shoot. Was the footage of the alleged Bigfoot, http://www.collegeinsider.com/graphic/images/lento-bigfoot.jpg this one, found to be fake or is it unknown? And does anybody know where I can see the whole film?

[Kaiju Fan]

The Patterson Film has never been proven to be fake, although there have been a lot of bs claims over the years from people claiming that they wre the guy in the suit or whatever. It's really just their way of trying to make a quick buck, but the mainstream media has latched onto these claims and now stupidly thinks the entire subject of Bigfoot and related hairy bipeds is null and void since the Patterson Film has been "proven" to be fake. As for seeing the actual film, you can see clips of it in documentaries from time to time, but if you want the whole film you need to get the Sasquatch:Legend meets Science DVD, which has the entire film in its extras section. Hope that answers your question(s)!

Oh, and there are alot of things to suggest that the Patterson Film is authentic, such as muscle movement, the stride of the creature, and the fact that it turns its entire upper body to look at Patterson and Gimlin. Apes have to do that, since they can't turn their heads to look behind them like humans can.

[Kaiju_Sensai]

Not to mention that the one guy still alive is not detering from his statement that it isn't a hoax. Also I just read that a new species of giant squid, dubbed the Colossal Squid, washed ashore on a beach. Not only is it about the size of the average giant squid, but is only about 2/3 of the way grown. Adults they say are estimated to be well over 60 ft long. The mantle of the average giant squid is about 2 1/2 feet while the mantle of the Colossal Squid is a bit over 4 ft.

[Cole Deschain]

^ Now that's a big invertebrate.

But then again, I've always thought thatthe ocean was hiding stuff from us. ;)

[Solar_Behemoth]

For all we know about the darkest depths of the ocean (very little) there could be a huge serpent with horns and small arms! That's right! There could be a real life Manda! There could be a real life Oodako!

The ocean is very unexplored, so who knows what life is down there.

People in submarines that have explored the ocean floor have even reported strange, dinosaur-like footprints at the bottom. Big footprints. Hell, people in submarines have seen lots of strange things!

[godofPH]

Dinosuar foot prints at the bottom of the sea? I bielive in most of the cryptids. I hate talking about aliens (like grays, not Xains) and mothman. They scare the **** out of me. I'm stopping now, or I'll start seeing them. I think I've got a phobia or something. The mothman movie had me scared stiff, literaly. During the movie, I couldn't move. Same with Sighs. My fvorite cryptid would be the Loch Ness Monster. I doubt it's a Plieiasuar (sp?), but it's still cool.
Good, I thought I was the only person who was scared of REAL aliens. Grays and the other aliens scare me to the point where I cannot sleep at night.

[Kaiju_Sensai]

Here's some interesting photos I came across.

Giant Octopus (?)
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/66/MO1.jpg

Goblin
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/8143/Gremlin.jpg

[Kaiju_Sensai]

And some more.

Strange Carcass
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/5717/SeaSerpent1.jpg

Lake Van Monster (Turkey)
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/9657/LakeVanMonster.jpg

Nessie
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/9660/Nessie1.jpg

[Godzilla guy]

That goblin looks fake. To fantasy looking for me to beleive in. The real thing that scares me is ghosts, I love reading about them, but i'd be scared to death if I saw one. If I ever came across an alien, I wouldn't think I'd be that scared. I mean, it'd either be a super intelligent being that travelled here through complicating machiens such as UFOs, that you could communicate with and show that you are a freind. Or, it would be a stupid animal that didn't know what it was or how it got here. You just plain wouldn't be afraid of the super intelligent one, and if you're terrified of the stupid one then you might as well have a phobia of lions.

Any other possibilites to consider?

[Mecha74]

Okay I know what you're thinking, why in the Hell am I bringing this dead for almost a year thread back to life? Truth is I didn't know about it until today,(interstingly enough the last post pf this thread was the day I joined KP)and I have some stories to tell so here I go.


Just a few years before she died my mother shared a story with me of something that she said happened on our very property about 5 years before I was born. I don't know the exact date but anyway she said it was about 3 in the morning when she noticed a bright light shinning through her window. So she and my dad got up to take a look. Anyway it was coming from the back yard, back then my family owned a farm just a down the road from where I live now. It was then that they saw a very bright light hovering a few feet above the ground. Anyway it was up on a hill close to the edge of the property line, and it was so bright that they couldn't look directly at it. After a few moments of hovering with no sound whatsoever it drifted up and then down behind a line of trees at the top of the hill and then it was gone. After it left the grass was burnt on the spot where it hovered around 20 feet in diameter, and the only thing that ever grew there again afterward was a dark green moss of somekind.

Now the funny thing is, is that before this happened my mom was probably one of the biggest skeptics on the face of the planet when it came to these kind of things. She never tried to explain it beyond what she told me. She never said she saw an actual spaceship or any little green men. She simply passed off the whole experience as one of those things she would never be able to make any sense out of and left it at that. My mother had always been what one could consider a strait shooter. She never made up wild stories and was by no means a liar, so yes I believed her.

Another funny story.

When I was about 11 years old and playing down by the fence line of our property(which is next to a large pond), I saw something stick its head out of the water! It was about dusk though and I couldn't get a really good look at it, but having the overactive imagination that I have I swore it was a dinosaur and took off running! This thing was huge! Later we found out that some idiot had dumped a giant sea turtle in the pond! We have no idea how the individual in question got it but that is where it ended up nonetheless. Somekind of animal control agency came and got it out, I don't know if it survived or not.

As for Bigfoot........

I personally try to be a very logical person, but if I sit here and say there's no Bigfoot then one is probably going to show up at my front door flipping me the bird. Though I am a big fan of the "Foulke Monster" from the "The Legend of Boggy Creek" though, even though it is a proven hoax(I even have the movie on dvd).

I have a brother who claims that evil demonic Sasquatches sent by the Devil are trying to kill him, ofcourse that same brother is also a drunk and a dope head.:eh:

One of the reasons that people want to discredit Bigfoot is because they don't like the idea of running into him perhaps. I mean think about it, you're hiking in the woods and suddenly you've got an 8 foot hairy humanoid standing infront of you with strength comparable to a Grizzly Bear! Better hope you don't make it mad, ofcourse at the time you're probably too busy having an accident in your pants to really do much of anything else.

While we are on the subject of strange phenomina, I've got a 60 foot patch of grass in my backyard that has an odd discoloration to it. It is always the last place that falling snow sticks and first place that it starts to melt, anyone out there have any theories? Anyways moving on......

What Cole said about our oceans depths is also something to consider.

Not too long ago the Cealocanth(spelling?) was supposed to be extinct.

Over a hundred years ago people used to think that Gorrilas were a myth.

So in regards to Cryptozoology in general I will use a quote from "Godzilla vs King Kong".

"There are more things in heaven and earth horatio than are dreamed of in your philosophy."

Nuff said, have a pleasant day everyone.

[Mecha-Rodan]

While we are on the subject of strange phenomina, I've got a 60 foot patch of grass in my backyard that has an odd discoloration to it. It is always the last place that falling snow sticks and first place that it starts to melt, anyone out there have any theories?
Perhaps the lights your mother spoke of were aliens are running an experiment in your backyard? Or maybe there is an idle tripod under there? ;)

Anyway, despite all my ghost stories (which can be found in their appropriate topics around here), I don't have any Cryptid stories to share. I don't consider ghosts and the like cryptids, since they are far too strange to be any form of animal.

One time, though, I remember the man who bought our old house back in Pennsylvania (he and my dad were friends), telling us a story about how he saw a series of flashing lights, and went outside with his shotgun to find several sets of unnaturally large eyes staring back at him from at the top of the hill behind his house.

[godzy]

Since most all the members here admit to being fans of the paranoramal, I decided to create my own Paranoramal thread. Share facts, comments, opinions, news, etc. here. First off: The Dover Demon. Few belive that it is real, but recently, a man in Cuba took a picture of what appears to be a dover demon. Could it be an alien, or a lab axperiment gone ary?

[Bagoth]

The Dover Demon, I have never heard about this, what the story about that?

[godzy]

^ Here ya go.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_demon

[Void Skull]

here's a pic i found of it:

http://www.geocities.com/theysawthem/doverdemon_BillBartlett2.jpg

[Melkor]

Looks a bit fake, but intriguing nontheless.

http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sea-serpent-or-plesiosaur/

Here's the full story behind the pictures.

One day in June, about 1990, my friend Joanne Rauch and I hiked along the central Oregon coast at Cape Meares. We soon spotted a large object on the beach.

I took the pictures, but I can’t remember which camera I used at the time. I believe it was a Minolta 35mm point and shoot.

I paced the length of the "sea serpent" - 13 paces, approximately 33 feet since my pace at the time was a bit over 2.5 feet.

If the bent leg points to the head, the head was missing as far as I could tell, chewed or screwed off by a propeller, or perhaps rotted away.

Unfortunately, some liquid spilled on some of the pictures and efforts to clean them resulted in minimal damage. When that happened, I stopped my efforts to clean the photos. Somewhere in the house I have the negatives and when I get them, I’ll developed them and make better scans.

I called the Hatfield Marine Science center (Newport, OR) and described what we’d seen. Their best suggestion was that this is a gray whale, despite the tapering neck and tail. One woman suggested the bent flipper might be a grotesque *****. She didn’t see the pictures.

I’ve hiked the wilderness strip of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, a couple of hundred miles north of Cape Mears, and seen 4 dead gray whales over the years. None looked remotely like this-the grays don’t taper nearly so much at the tail and don’t taper at all at the head. The heads are massive.

What the heck is this thing???




Peace,



Melkor



:darklord:

[Bagoth]

[QUOTE=godzy]^ Here ya go.

Thank you its appreciated.

[Robzilla]

Here's some interesting photos I came across.

Giant Octopus (?)
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/66/MO1.jpg

Goblin
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/8143/Gremlin.jpg


It was most likely an ***-goblin. They're native to Calgary, Quebec and most of the United States. BIG EDIT ...I mean, well yeah u know what I mean.


Uh, yeah. Watch that stuff.

[Robzilla]

Holy moley, the censorship on this board/forum/site is crazy. You can't even say a s s. That's ridiculous. And you can't even say g a y either. Political correctness totally sucks ballz.

[Raptor]

Holy moley, the censorship on this board/forum/site is crazy. You can't even say a s s. That's ridiculous. And you can't even say g a y either. Political correctness totally sucks ballz.And why should one need to post those words in the first place? :hmmm:

[godofPH]

Day by day, I work on improving my idea for a game starring the Sasquatch. Its written out in heavy detail and it keeps getting longer. I'm hoping a game company will accept the idea and it'll be a hit game. It could do for Cryptids what Jurassic Park did for paleontology (generate a huge new amount of interest in the subject and lead to new discoverys and findings). I mean, if any Cryptid deserves the effort to be found, its Bigfoot.

[Tokyo VigilanteX]

Holy moley, the censorship on this board/forum/site is crazy. You can't even say a s s. That's ridiculous. And you can't even say g a y either. Political correctness totally sucks ballz.
Can't you just leave? You obviously can't seem to wrap your brain around the rules and your going to get banned anyway. So how about we just skip the next 4 warnings and cut to the chase, eh?



I never really found that squid picture very convicing. It looks more like a drawing of somekind, so does the goblin.

[Raptor]

Anyone familiar with weird critters from Maine (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208683,00.html)?

[Steve]

I was really into Cryptozoology when I was a kid, and I still find it interesting today, but I've mostly grown out of it- it's neat to read about but I don't think most Cryptids really stand up to serious scrutiny. Admittedly, I've seen some reasonably compelling evidence for Bigfoot, particularly the tracks which show signs of injury. It'd be pretty damn cool if Bigfoot DID exist, buuuut... I wouldn't hold my breath on it, especially given the lack of physical remains and fossil evidence. (Though sometimes I wonder if perhaps Sasquatch are intelligent enough to bury their dead; if they are indeed hominids I wouldn't be surprised if they were.)

[Excelsior]

I'm not a fan of "Paranormal" cryptozoology. I don' believe for a second in Sasquatch, or Nessie, or the chupacabra, or any of those.

"Natural" cryptozoology, sure. I believe that there're a ton of species in the depths that we haven't seen, for example. I personally have a genuine item to mention in that vein.

When I was a kid I lived in Vermont. I worked for farmer up on the mountain to get comic book money. One fall we're out clearing wood and I see a spider in an orb web set in a fork in a tree trunk. It was small - about the size of a nickel. Almost missed it. What caught my eye was its color - bright, bright red, almost orange. I circle the tree to see the underside, and on its abdomen was a black hourglass. It was almost like a photo-negative Black Widow. Never seen anything like it since. If I'd gone back with a cup and a lid I might have my name in a science textbook somewhere.

That's how I think of cryptozoology. Not glamorous, but real.

Edit - though my mom swore up and down that she almost ran over the Jersey Devil thirty years ago. So who knows.

[godofPH]

It'd be pretty damn cool if Bigfoot DID exist, buuuut... I wouldn't hold my breath on it, especially given the lack of physical remains and fossil evidence.

Oh God forbid we automatically count out Bigfoot's existence because he doesn't have the courtesy to knock on the door of a laboratory and then conviently die the next moment for a full-scale dissection.

Yeah, I love Crytozoology. I love thinking there is some mystery left in this world, and that there are some things that don't fit within the facts-and-logic worldview of scientists.

[Raptor]

Hey, EM!
'Bigfoot' expedition planned in Michigan (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/27/bigfoot.ap/index.html)

[Kevzilla]

I need help with a project on Cryptozoolgoy I'm doing for my Higher in IT. Will I need some good pics of cryptids, so far i can't find any good ones. Can anyone here help?

[Mecha74]

The Chupacabra?

http://www.yahoo.com/s/934314

[godofPH]

Ok...cops chasing after this little creature. And don't policeman normally carry guns with them? It wasn't running too fast, and it looked like a decent sized target...and it got away?

[Mecha74]

http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AqE1ouVKOMD7qOnRR8usPiGbvZx4;_ylc=X3oDMTdmOHJ xYzAwBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEYQMwOTEyMTEgYnV6eiB0d2luY 2l0aWVzIGJpZ2Zvb3QgcGljdHVyZSB0BGNwb3MDMgRnA2lkLTE 2ODQwBGludGwDdXMEaXRjAzAEbHR4dANEaWRjYW1lcmFzbmFwQ mlnZm9vdD8EcGtndgM5BHBvcwMwBHNlYwN0ZC1mZWF0BHNsawN 0aHVtYmxpbmsEc2xwb3MDRgR0YXIDaHR0cCUzQSUyRiUyRnd3d y50d2luY2l0aWVzLmNvbSUyRmNpXzEzOTY4NjU3JTNGc3JjJTN EeWFob29ob21lBHRlc3QDNzAx/SIG=11quutdub/**http%3A//www.twincities.com/ci_13968657%3Fsrc=yahoohome

Well, what's the consensus?

Legit or hoax? God knows stories like this come down the pike all the time.

[Scorpion13mk2]

Hmm, the mysterious guy in gorilla costume. You sometimes see them in the woods at this time of the year..

[Excelsior]

Look, there's nobody who'd rather have some irrefutable evidence of Sasquatch, Nessie, or any of their ilk turn up than me. But the fact of the matter is that the world's a lot smaller now than it was a hundred or even fifty years ago. With technology and population expansion both measured in geometric scales, the odds of something like them turning up on land are slipping further and further down. By now we would have had more to go on than the occasional blurry picture to fall back on if there was a race of seven foot bipeds sharing our continent.

The monsters of the future will come from the ocean depths.

[Godzilla the ultimate]

I believe all the way through of strange, undiscovered beasts, Jersey Devil, Bigfoot, Nessie, the Mokele Mbembe(I think that is the spelling) but in all of them I can find rational explanation for the beasts remaing, "cryptozoological". The world of man may be expanding in this day and age to multiple places, but there are still areas of the world that remain unexplored, but those are the places that these beasts could exist.
The Jersey Devil (which I believe is a species of animal) lives in the pine barrens, which contain an imense amount of space, would in fact offer supple room for an entire species to hide.
Loch Ness is very deep an may have underwater channels to the ocean(where I think plesiosaurs like Nessie came from) where she could swim into the lake then feed off of fish.
And Bigfoot, the continent of NA is huge, and it would be very easy to hide in this continent.

[Henry88]

http://www.haveyouseenthiscreature.com/




Shoot first ask questions later

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Tonight on Coast To Coast AM, various experts will be getting together around 1:00am, EST, to discuss the latest findings, and tech used in the pursuit of Bigfoot.http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/03/29

[MothraGodzilla]

I've always loved cryptozoology.One of the many mysteries of the ocean that has always intrested me was The Bloop ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop ).

Funny thing is,I'm not too greatly intrested in BigFoot,or the Dover Demon,or any other crypto from the land. I'm more intrested in the cryptos from the water.

Nessie
http://www.scotland-calling.com/nessie/nessie1.jpg

Ogopogo
http://theshadowlands.net/ogopogo.jpg

The Bloop
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Bloop.jpg

They intrest me more, because they are harder to find, thus making them more intresting.

[IceDragon2]

I personally love cryptozoology. Some of the things that really interest me are the Rods (strange, rod like things with weird wings occasionally caught on video), the cattle killers (unknown creatures in north america that suck the blood from cattle sort of like the chupacabra) and of course the chupacabra. People cannot agree on what these creatures are or even what they really look like, but that only makes trying to solve the mystery more interesting.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Check out this video that's been creating quite a buzz on the World Wide Web, and even the news programs(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OmyyHyya64&feature=g-logo&context=G2622e59FOAAAAAAANAA ). Spotted and filmed in a below sea-level glaicer lake in Iceland. This, well, freaky looking serpent was sighted swimming in the beforementioned lake. Skeptics believe that the bugger is a discarded fishnet that's collected a fair share or garbage. Which accounts for its girth. But dagnabbit, that thing looks like it's creating a fair sized wake with its own power. Thoughts ?

[DinoGeekProductions]

Maybe it's just that the alleged creature's form of locomotion differs from what we're used to, but the movement just didn't look deliberate to me. It's possible that this is "the genuine article", but it wouldn't shock me if other factors were going on to propel whatever it was.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Here's another one I heard about last night on Coast To Coast AM. A video of what looks like a real life Whooly Mammoth fording across a river in Siberia.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4116326/Woolly-mammoth-spotted-in-Siberia.html
Although, that "trunk", could be a fish hanging from the mouth of a bear. I can't quite tell, but as the camera stays longer on the animal, the appendage does in fact look like a part of the animal in question.

[Morgoth]

The Iceland serpent I'm not so sure about, but that 'mammoth' is definately a bear with a fish hanging out of its mouth. This echoes the recent hoax perpetrated in Russia regarding the Almas.

[Seer235]

Wow, I might not have noticed it right away on my own, but yeah, that is clearly a bear with a fish. Of course, can't really expect anything from the Sun to be accurate.

[THE ONE AND ONLY]

Hey, check out tonight's episode of Coast To Coast AM(http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/24 (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/24)). The subject of tonight's show doesn't deal with a mysterious creature particularly, but a series of odd dissappearances at our national parks and forests that the forest service seems to bury their heads in the sand on. The guest, David Paulides, was on plugging his book, MISSING 411(http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/missing_411.html) back in March, will be on again talking about these vanishings. I practically stayed up the whole night this guy was on talking about this thing. Check it out if you can.