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The Great MM
September 27th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Showa Godzilla & Showa Gamera vs. Showa MechaGodzilla & Barugon

Arena: ATLANTIC city

Rules: All are Showa sized.

Aragorn_Strider22
September 27th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Barugon slaughters Showa Godzilla, and Mechagodzilla holds off Gamera until Barugon arrives.

Not overkill, but just barely.

Showa Godzilla
September 27th, 2004, 05:52 PM
^ Thats if They fight like that.Showa Goji can Beat MG while Gamera and Barugon fight.Showa Godzilla then goes and helps Gammy fight Barugon.I haven't seen Barugo in awhile,but last time I saw him in Action he didn't Impress me.

Aragorn_Strider22
September 27th, 2004, 06:04 PM
But can Showa Godzilla beat Mechagodzilla before Barugon can defeat Gamera?

I doubt it, even if it does come down to a 2v1, Gamera is going to be very weak already, and I'm sure Barugon could defeat a weakened Gamera and Godzilla(Because Godzilla will NOT be at full strength after a tussle with Mechagodzilla)

Godzilla is definately not going to hold up to either of Barugons' attacks as well as Gamera did. Especially with the amount of Showboating he does during a match.

MirrenDono
September 27th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I think Goji could handle up to the Rainbow Ray easy, since that is what Baru likes to use first, and if that fails he goes for the ice, but only under die circumstances. The Rainvow Ray hit him, burned him, and kept him down for about ten seconds. He was soon back up and moving around like nothing happened. Then heck he managed to give Gammy a good fight and take a beating like no other and still keep going. It powerful, yes. But it's effect on kaiju is not insane, it is either normal or just strong. Godzilla has handled strong attacks, he'll be fine. He should be able to take out Mechagodzilla, and then him and Gammy could pound Barugon. Heck, I think Godzilla has a good chance a lone. With his regeneration, he could witstand the Rainbow Ray fine, and up close he's superior to Gammy, and gives nasty beatdowns, ones that would flooor Baru with ease. Then of course if he throws off a few beams, it could be serious trouble.

I won't go on anymore, but if the Godzilla is Megaro Godzilla, I give it to Goji and Gammy, otherwise, I look to Mechagodzilla and Barugon.

Aragorn_Strider22
September 27th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Why do you always assume that Barugon is useless at melee? He is fully capable of putting up a fight against an opponent when his rainbow beam does not work. He'd be able to put up a very good fight if Godzilla got in close to him, which will not happen, as Godzilla is not resistant to energy like Barugon and Showa Gamera were to it.

Also, please quit assuming Godzilla is a better fighter than Gamera, especially at close range, as both are nearly equal in the skill, and whatever bonus one has over the other is negligable. In fact, I believe in the DD2, IIRC, someone during the DD2 gave a good argument that showed that Showa Gamera is superior to Godzilla in hth.

And, like I said before, Godzilla isn't going to beat Mechagodzilla with any amount of ease, and he might not even beat him-both times HE DID beat MG is because of outside interferance. It's not going to be an easy fight. Going up against Barugon when you're half dead isn't a good idea for ANY kaiju.


Barugon has proven that in a straight 1v1, without interferance, he pwns Gamera, likewise for Mechagodzilla against Godzilla. In fact, it took a LOT of outside interferance for BOTH battles to be considered equal.

Without human interferance, I doubt the good guys are going to win this one.

anguirus55
September 27th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Ouch...the bad guys win.

Showa MG > Godzilla

Barugon > Gamera or Godzilla.

Simple.

The Great MM
September 27th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Aragorn, I suggest you take a deep long look at where the fight takes place... heheheheheheheheheheheh

Aragorn_Strider22
September 27th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Unless Atlantic City is submerged in water, I highly doubt it's going to make a difference.

MirrenDono
September 27th, 2004, 06:50 PM
*jams to "Mean Machine"* Man, I've been waitin' for a debate, you're the best;)



Originally posted by Aragorn_Strider22
Why do you always assume that Barugon is useless at melee? He is fully capable of putting up a fight against an opponent when his rainbow beam does not work. He'd be able to put up a very good fight if Godzilla got in close to him, which will not happen, as Godzilla is not resistant to energy like Barugon and Showa Gamera were to it.
Do you enjoy putting words in peoples' mouths? I never seem him as useless, I know he's a very strong kaiju, but what po's me is that he's made out to be what he isn't. His Rainbow Ray is powerful, and it will hurt Godzilla, but it will take quite a few Rainbow Rays to do that. Don't forget his regeneration too, and that his fortitude and endurance is amazing at times. He took shots of Mechagodzilla's eye beams and rockets without a scratch on him during their fights at points, and then in ToMG he had the missiles blast his mouth, and guess what? Not a single drop of blood...


Also, please quit assuming Godzilla is a better fighter than Gamera, especially at close range, as both are nearly equal in the skill, and whatever bonus one has over the other is negligable. In fact, I believe in the DD2, IIRC, someone during the DD2 gave a good argument that showed that Showa Gamera is superior to Godzilla in hth.
Also, don't tell me what I can assume, when as usual I have good evidence to back up my claims to shoot back at yours. They are both incredible physical fighters, uber awesome ones, but both 70's Godzilla, especially Megaro Godzilla, out-do Gamera for one reason- how they fight physically. Gammy enjoys rams, tosses and throws, which is a very good style, but rarely goes for beatdowns, which Godzilal likes. The Megaro Godzilla does what Gammy nevery really did, go on sprees of punches, smacks and pounds. That is a serious deal my friend, a very serious deal. A barrage of those will keep a kaiju down until Goji stops, depending which kaiju it is yes, but go with it. Gamera isn't very relentless, Godzilla is. He performs devestating attacks, but Megaro Godzilla keeps the poundings coming many of the times, and almost never slows down.


And, like I said before, Godzilla isn't going to beat Mechagodzilla with any amount of ease, and he might not even beat him-both times HE DID beat MG is because of outside interferance. It's not going to be an easy fight. Going up against Barugon when you're half dead isn't a good idea for ANY kaiju.
First fight with Mechagodzilla, heck no, Godzilla could've easily done it on his own. Seesar did next to nothing in that final brawl. He did rams that Godzilla let him do. If Godzilla wanted, he could've ended it without that series of charges by the Okinawan Guardian. Then in ToMG, it's a possibly, but remember, he still probably had the magnetizing ability which he hadn't used yet, and after running through the All-Weapons-Asault, one can guess that he could've gone on through the blasts and won alone.

And I'm sure Goji won't be 'half dead'. His regeneration, and if he decides to beef it up with a lil magnitizing, he'll be far from healf dead. Tired, fatigued? Yes. Uber weakened? Not even close.


Barugon has proven that in a straight 1v1, without interferance, he pwns Gamera, likewise for Mechagodzilla against Godzilla. In fact, it took a LOT of outside interferance for BOTH battles to be considered equal.
Well, about Gamera and Barugon, not duh. Barugon has an already strong weapon, but it's pretty much the most deadly for Gammy- pure cold. Something Gamera can't absorb, and is weak to. Then don't forget how he swallowed some of it during the spray. And on Mechagodzilla and Godzilla, well, I think I already avowed what I would say here. *sighs* I gotta wait sometimes before I just ramble off my entire argument....>_>

Gorjirus
September 27th, 2004, 06:51 PM
I don't think it will change it that much.

Barugon could take Gamera or Godzilla. I don't beleive that Showa Godzilla could survive/live and continue to fight after a Rainbow Beam, arguably one of the most powerful beams in the kaiju world. And we have seen what happens when a healthy Barugon faces a healthy Gamera.

Mechagodzilla, one on one, can take Godzilla, as he pretty much already has done. Against Gamera, he would have a good chance (though I haven't seen enough Gamera Showa films to know for sure).

Burkion
October 3rd, 2004, 09:18 PM
Okay, Godzilla charges Barugon, and is frozen. Gamera charges MG, and is blasted back to hell. Also, that huge mouth of his is just ASKING of a cutting beam to rip it a new one...