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UltraGojira
October 2nd, 2004, 02:30 PM
According to KPA in the GojiStomp Message Boards:

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Godzilla's final battle does NOT take place in China, so the odds that he dies in Shanghai are approximmately 0.00%.
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So there you go. Everything's back to normal.

Gorjirus
October 2nd, 2004, 02:41 PM
Awah....?

By any chance, did he say anything else? Like where he heard that?

UltraGojira
October 2nd, 2004, 03:13 PM
Awah....?

By any chance, did he say anything else? Like where he heard that?

That's what I was wondering too, but he's always 100% correct, so I believe in him.

Project Pimp
October 2nd, 2004, 03:28 PM
I wonder if this means Godzilla will even go to China... his path might be Antarctica to Sydney to Tokyo...

Anguirus still attacks Shanghai though. Prolly earlier on when the kaiju are rampaging worldwde or whatever.

PyrasTerran
October 2nd, 2004, 03:29 PM
Godzilla still fights Anguirus in Shanghai though, doesn't he??

Project Pimp
October 2nd, 2004, 03:31 PM
Godzilla still fights Anguirus in Shanghai though, doesn't he??

Maybe a mistinterpretation... apparently Godzilla fights Anguirus, Rodan, and King Caesar near Mount Fuji.

*shrugs*

kent
October 2nd, 2004, 07:59 PM
Well, all that news came from a synopsis of the film a month or so after GFW was announced. Anyone remember that synopsis? I almost wonder now, if this is true, if the whole synopsis we saw many moons back is fabricated.
And no disrespect to KPA, but with a lot of people saying things and then later we find out they weren't true, I'm not going to believe anything until I see the film itself.

Gojira2000
October 2nd, 2004, 08:24 PM
Well, I'm kind of happy about this, because it means that there the chance that Godzilla dies (if he dies), or at least has the last showdown in Tokyo, for it's only fitting, especially for his 50th. But there's nothing to say he and Anguirus won't fight in China. Wait... How many battles can they fit in this movie?!

1. Artic battle with MX, Anguirus, Gigan, Rodan and Goji
2. battle between Hedorah and Ebirah
3. Battle with Zilla and Goji
4. Goji fight with Anguirus in China
5. King Ceasar, Anguirus, Rodan (am I missing someone?) fight with Goji at Mt. Fuji
6. Godzilla's batttle with Kumo and Kamac (possiably the same fight as #5?)
7. Goji's showdown with Kaiser Ghidorah....

Holy crap! That's unprecedented!

Solar_Behemoth
October 2nd, 2004, 08:41 PM
Hmmm... well it doesn't sound like Godzilla fights Anguirus in Shanghai after all.
Oh well, having a major battle with Godzilla, Anguirus, Seesar, and Rodan at old-school Mt. Fuji is great in my book. So okay, the kaiju action contains:

1. Legion of monsters attacking around the world
2. Gigan attacking the ED HQ
3. Intense motorcycle scene with a kaiju
4. Godzilla X Ebirah X Hedorah
5. Godzilla vs. Gigan and Monster X
6. Rodan attacks New York
7. Antartica Battle
8. Godzilla vs. Kumonga and Kamacuras
9. Godzilla against Zilla
10. Mothra vs. Gigan
11. King Seesar vs. Gigan
12. Mt. Fuji War
13. Manda vs. the Atragon
14. The showdown

Sweet

Excelsior
October 2nd, 2004, 09:01 PM
Seesar vs Gigan? When was that announced?

Mecha-Rodan
October 2nd, 2004, 09:04 PM
... The Arizona desert and Paris are still unaccounted for... IMO, Godzilla does go around the world... Antarctica to Sydney to the Arizona desert to New York to Paris to Shanghai and finally to Japan... Leaves plenty of space inbetween. I think we've only seen pics and production shots from not even half this movie yet...

Project Pimp
October 2nd, 2004, 09:07 PM
No offense but you guys are WAY off in your battle things. Personally, I'm kind of doubting the Antartica thing since we only heard of it from that press release which was staging a battle for show anyway. But maybe, who knows. What I do know is that the kaiju rampage worldwide from the start, according to Toho, and then once Godzilla is released he fights most all of them along his path to Japan.

Also the Kumonga/Kamacuras fight is on Solgell Island.

Aragorn_Strider22
October 2nd, 2004, 09:08 PM
Yeah, it's not necessarily Hedorah vs. Ebirah, it could very well be that they are allies... it said Ebirah and Hedorah DUEL at sea, or something like that, it didn't say they fight each other.

And I also would like to know where the rumor of Ceesar vs. Gigan originated... I don't remember that being announced, just someone stating it would be cool.

Kiryu goji
October 3rd, 2004, 03:25 PM
Question: Will the Antarctic battle take place before or after the fight with Godzilla and Zilla?

Project Pimp
October 3rd, 2004, 03:49 PM
Dude what kind of question is this?! Godzilla STARTS OFF IN ANTARCTICA!

godofPH
October 3rd, 2004, 03:58 PM
Question: Will the Antarctic battle take place before or after the fight with Godzilla and Zilla?
I dunno man, I heard goji would be the Earth's last hope against Zilla in a description of the fight. Maybe goji starts off in antarctica, starts his "tour", go's to sydney, then go's back to antarctica

Tomzilla
October 3rd, 2004, 04:28 PM
I dunno man, I heard goji would be the Earth's last hope against Zilla in a description of the fight. Maybe goji starts off in antarctica, starts his "tour", go's to sydney, then go's back to antarctica

I highly doubt that. It makes no sense for Godzilla to leave Antarctica, go to Sydney, then return to Antarctica, when we know for a fact that he is going in a certain path. From what we know, Godzilla awakens in Antarctica and moves up north. I think it is possible that Godzilla will be appearing in other parts of the world, but I can't accept the idea that he'll just go back to Antarctica after his Sydney Stomping.

MirrenDono
October 3rd, 2004, 04:37 PM
Well, perhaps there's the possibility that he starts off in Antarctica, and then the final battle is just on a giant island of ice somewhere else? Like maybe in the Bering Sea possibly?

I don't know just a thought, because I'd love to see the Final Battle be on the ice land.

Zigra
October 3rd, 2004, 07:04 PM
Another possibility (and this is just speculation on my part) is that Godzilla does indeed battle Monster X (and possibly Gigan along with him) in Shanghai. What might happen is that MX makes his final transformation into Kaiser Ghidorah in this battle and completely thrashes Big G, leaving him for dead, just like Mechagodzilla did in the first battle back in '74. But then, after everybody thinks Godzilla is dead, Godzilla returns for the final showdown to take KG down once and for all.

It's possible that whoever made that news report simply misinterpreted how the film is suppose to play out.

kpa
October 5th, 2004, 07:13 AM
That's what I was wondering too, but he's always 100% correct, so I believe in him.

Can I quote you on that?

Gorjirus
October 5th, 2004, 09:16 AM
So, where DID you get that?

Mecha-Rodan
October 5th, 2004, 02:51 PM
Well, perhaps there's the possibility that he starts off in Antarctica, and then the final battle is just on a giant island of ice somewhere else? Like maybe in the Bering Sea possibly?

I don't know just a thought, because I'd love to see the Final Battle be on the ice land.
Um, excuse me, but who the hell ever said the final battle would take place anywhere NEAR ice? There is absolutely NO proof whatsoever that the final battle takes place in Antarctica or on anywhere near ice at all.

MirrenDono
October 5th, 2004, 03:16 PM
Perhaps because of all the photos of every single kaiju on ice *not a show >_>* and the fact that there's photos of Godzilla, Rodan, Angilas, Monster X and Gigan all fighting on there. That's a lot of kaiju, it can possibly give the hint that there's the final battle. Plus if you never heard the rumors of that you must live under a rock, let alone not seeing all the pictures.


Did I say I was right? Hell no jabronie, I mentioned it as a possibility, which would be uber cool.

Project Pimp
October 5th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Oh, so now because the China report is fake this means that the final battle is in Antartica? I see the logic there. Sure.

Figment
October 5th, 2004, 04:50 PM
That was for the newspaper people, it's not going in the movie.

Zigra
October 5th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Perhaps because of all the photos of every single kaiju on ice *not a show >_>* and the fact that there's photos of Godzilla, Rodan, Angilas, Monster X and Gigan all fighting on there. That's a lot of kaiju, it can possibly give the hint that there's the final battle. Plus if you never heard the rumors of that you must live under a rock, let alone not seeing all the pictures.

Eh, as somebody pointed out earlier, that scene was filmed for a press conference, and apparently won't be in the movie itself. And even if it were in the movie, you'll notice that Monster X hasn't made his final transformation into Kaiser Ghidorah yet, so it's obviously not the final battle. Simple logic, man.

Edit: Also, I find it very interesting, and a tad bit amusing, how in the past everybody had always trusted the information Kpa gave out without a second thought (and rightfully so), but now that he's finally debunked that "spoiler" that everybody was so hell-bent on believing without question, many of you don't believe what he says. How odd.

MirrenDono
October 5th, 2004, 05:06 PM
^I had also heard rumors that Monster X would change right at the final battle, that and I raed he'd beat up Godzilla, and the others guys might go after him then and attack while Goji recuperates


Some of you people are as dense as the metal objects I've used in my science labs. When I say it's only a possibility, I don't mean it's Biblical facts and will happen, I mean it's a mere possibility that was created due a mistunderstanding of time placements and some false rumors. Will I be verbally crucified or something now?

kpa
October 5th, 2004, 06:14 PM
So, where DID you get that?

An inside source that wishes to remain namelesss at this time. Sorry I can't be more specific, but that's the way it is.

kpa
October 5th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Edit: Also, I find it very interesting, and a tad bit amusing, how in the past everybody had always trusted the information Kpa gave out without a second thought (and rightfully so), but now that he's finally debunked that "spoiler" that everybody was so hell-bent on believing without question, many of you don't believe what he says. How odd.

Thanks for the support Zigra, but it seems more people are confused by Antarctica's place in the movie than in saying I'm wrong. The only negative comment I've seen is from Kent, and even it was polite:

"And no disrespect to KPA, but with a lot of people saying things and then later we find out they weren't true, I'm not going to believe anything until I see the film itself."

My answer to that is there are indeed a lot of people saying things that turn out to be false and there's been so much rumor and speculation that's hard to figure out what's true and what's not. That does not mean all rumors and information should be treated equally; you have to look at who's reporting the info to decide whether it has merit or not. If someone has a track record for accuracy their word carries more weight IMO.

If I write something (either on the message boards or for Henshin! Online) I do my best to confirm it's accurate, so comments like yours (Zigra) and UltraGojira2004's are appreciated. I was also very happy that 95% of the posts on the message boards were positive since I co-broke the news about Kaiser-Ghidorah on H!O several months back... that proves to me that H!O and I are considered pretty reliable. Thanks!

PyrasTerran
October 5th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Plus if you never heard the rumors of that you must live under a rock, let alone not seeing all the pictures.

Monster X is seen menacingly in a city-scape. It's more possible the last fight is in a city(the way it's supposed to be for a giant monster movie).

Gorjirus
October 5th, 2004, 07:09 PM
Thank you for the explanation kpa.

Raptor
October 5th, 2004, 09:58 PM
Plus if you never heard the rumors... you must live under a rock, let alone not seeing all the pictures.Like Keith mentioned, there is a WHOLE BUNCH of rumors and speculation flying around about this film. We've also had fakes show up that folks have run with. Just look at the post counts on some of these topics! :crazy: And if you have been "out of the loop", offline or whatever for about any period of time, it's easy to pick up on something OUT OF CONTEXT and "fit" it into a POSSIBLE scenario. There are also a lot of "What ifs" that have been mentioned and some of them really would be enjoyable to see played out.
The best way to handle such a MASS of input is WEIGH IT and KEEP THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE. Rumors should be labelled as such and cite a source if possible. The "hard news" will no doubt "leak out" one way or another as it usually does. If not, more surprises when we get to see the film! :D

SCGamerXX24
October 5th, 2004, 10:11 PM
i sure hope it was... godzilla dying would be stupid and would just have toho lose money, and cheapen heisei godzillas death.


no he shouldnt die in the movie, for it will ruin an otherwise perfect movie.

kent
October 6th, 2004, 10:36 AM
Thanks for the support Zigra, but it seems more people are trying to confused by Antarctica's place in the movie than in saying I'm wrong. The only negative comment I've seen is from Kent, and even it was polite:

"And no disrespect to KPA, but with a lot of people saying things and then later we find out they weren't true, I'm not going to believe anything until I see the film itself."

My answer to that is there are indeed a lot of people saying things that turn out to be false and there's been so much rumor and speculation that's hard to figure out what's true and what's not. That does not mean all rumors and information should be treated equally; you have to look at who's reporting the info to decide whether it has merit or not. If someone has a track record for accuracy their word carries more weight IMO.

If I write something (either on the message boards or for Henshin! Online) I do my best to confirm it's accurate, so comments like yours (Zigra) and UltraGojira2004's are appreciated. I was also very happy that 95% of the posts on the message boards were positive since I co-broke the news about Kaiser-Ghidorah on H!O several months back... that proves to me that H!O and I are considered pretty reliable. Thanks!
Sorry if I hurt you in any way KPA. That was not my intention. I should have clarified my position more which is what I will do now...
Ever since Godzilla 2000 was announced back in 1999, many people/websites have been giving rumours/information on the next upcoming Godzilla film. Of course as time grew closer to the actual theatrical release, the information was a little more accurate. But even then, there was some information stated that some people either didn't bother to fix, or still thought was in the film, that never actually happened. So when I go and actually see the film for myself, it ends up being something slightly different than what other people say.
After having that happen several times, I just take any rumours or information with a grain of salt unless there is some strong evidence to back up the rumours/information. No matter who it is from.
Sorry if I statement seemed negative towards you KPA. That was not my intention. It's just that I had come to believe just about everything people said about upcoming Godzilla films, that when I actually saw the film, certain things that were reported to happen or take place, never did.
Hopefully that clears everything up.

Raptor
October 6th, 2004, 02:32 PM
Some of you people are as dense as the metal objects I've used in my science labs. When I say it's only a possibility, I don't mean it's Biblical facts and will happen, I mean it's a mere possibility that was created due a mistunderstanding of time placements and some false rumors. Will I be verbally crucified or something now?I would say it isn't so much the MASS of discussion "getting through" to fans as to how it is processed. Right now, it isn't as simple as being chased by a giant monster and deciding to run AWAY from it! :D
The "wait and see" approach is no doubt best, ANALYZE the posts and website presentations and WEIGH them accordingly. Some elements will no doubt pan out while others are so much fodder for the rumor mill.
Rather than chide MD for trying to sift through it all, how about EVERYONE undertake some INDEPENDENT "research" and again, CLEARLY INDICATE when you're just posting YOUR speculations, wishful thinking and hopes for the film.
As seen above, WOULD YOU WANT TO BE QUOTED ON THAT? It's the "your name in the credits" thing even if we're just discussing a "giant critter flick"! ;)

kpa
October 6th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Sorry if I hurt you in any way KPA. That was not my intention. I should have clarified my position more which is what I will do now...

Not at all, Kent. I wrote that you were polite... you even had "And no disrespect to KPA," in your post.

Ever since Godzilla 2000 was announced back in 1999, many people/websites have been giving rumours/information on the next upcoming Godzilla film. Of course as time grew closer to the actual theatrical release, the information was a little more accurate. But even then, there was some information stated that some people either didn't bother to fix, or still thought was in the film, that never actually happened. So when I go and actually see the film for myself, it ends up being something slightly different than what other people say.
After having that happen several times, I just take any rumours or information with a grain of salt unless there is some strong evidence to back up the rumours/information. No matter who it is from.
Sorry if I statement seemed negative towards you KPA. That was not my intention. It's just that I had come to believe just about everything people said about upcoming Godzilla films, that when I actually saw the film, certain things that were reported to happen or take place, never did.
Hopefully that clears everything up.

I understand your concern; if we believed the majority of rumors and "info" posted online we'd be completely lost about these movies. But I also think its just as wrong to ignore everything people say, otherwise there's no point to even reading the news reports and posts.

Over time, you can and should learn to recognize some people and websites that are reliable sources of information. All sources are not equal and should not be regarded as such... that's the point I was trying to make. Go back and look at old articles, news reports, and posts and see if they turned out to be true or not. That will give you a good idea of who's word is reliable.

Artemis1
October 12th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Hmmm... well it doesn't sound like Godzilla fights Anguirus in Shanghai after all.
Oh well, having a major battle with Godzilla, Anguirus, Seesar, and Rodan at old-school Mt. Fuji is great in my book. So okay, the kaiju action contains:

1. Legion of monsters attacking around the world
2. Gigan attacking the ED HQ
3. Intense motorcycle scene with a kaiju
4. Godzilla X Ebirah X Hedorah
5. Godzilla vs. Gigan and Monster X
6. Rodan attacks New York
7. Antartica Battle
8. Godzilla vs. Kumonga and Kamacuras
9. Godzilla against Zilla
10. Mothra vs. Gigan
11. King Seesar vs. Gigan
12. Mt. Fuji War
13. Manda vs. the Atragon
14. The showdown

SweetYou forgot King Ceasar vs. Komunga and Mothra vs. Gigan. Also Atragon vs. Planet X.

Alien-G
November 1st, 2004, 07:34 PM
So Godzilla and Minya will live?