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HolyGoji777
May 24th, 2004, 11:32 PM
i thought it was great but it caught me totally off guard...he didnt look how i imagined him but it was a pleasent surprise. what about you guys?

May 24th, 2004, 11:33 PM
I dont think anyone is going to hate it. I love it

HolyGoji777
May 24th, 2004, 11:35 PM
there may be someone who absolutly despises the look. however i think most ppl will think its great.

biohazard85
May 24th, 2004, 11:42 PM
It keeps the classic look, but updates it as well, how could someone hate that?

HolyGoji777
May 24th, 2004, 11:49 PM
because maybe someone has a different opinion than us. god i made the post to see what EVERYONE thought and all that ive heard is crap because i have a HATE IT option. im new here and just trying to make good topics...and there will probably be a few that just dont like the updated gigan. if i didnt make the topic someone else would have.

kritaya
May 25th, 2004, 01:24 AM
It's a very interesting update. My only reservation is I just don't know how a cyborg kaiju is going to fit into the movie. Wait and see.

ALLOSAURZ
May 25th, 2004, 01:34 AM
Pimptastic

Project Pimp
May 25th, 2004, 02:02 AM
"It's a very interesting update. My only reservation is I just don't know how a cyborg kaiju is going to fit into the movie. Wait and see."

You don't have to wait at all. He's an alien from Planet X.

"Pimptastic"

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Thanos6
May 25th, 2004, 02:08 AM
I love it.  Nice Freddy Krueger claws.

rodan70
May 25th, 2004, 02:32 AM
<font color='#810541'>I love it! Thank God, we finally got him in another movie!

SuperGodzillaF1
May 25th, 2004, 05:41 AM
<font color='#000F22'>he could eve looked better but hey....it's a good look

mechagodzilla3
May 25th, 2004, 08:35 AM
<font color='#0000FF'>Gigan looks AWESOME!!! http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Kaiju_Sensai
May 25th, 2004, 09:58 AM
<font color='#008080'>I'm not to big on the coloration and all that, but I do like the more robotic look they gave him. I still prefer the old design, but its truly unfair to judge any of the new designs until the final suits can be seen.

Majin Gojira
May 25th, 2004, 10:44 AM
It, quite frankly, is awesome. Let's hope the suit is as good as the production sketches indicate. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gigansmilie.gif

Gorjirus
May 25th, 2004, 12:17 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>He's EVIL!!!! I love it!

And he is supposed to loose?

Black Libra
May 25th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Though I am quite picky about kaiju designs, I must say, this new design for Gigan is very interesting indeed. I hope the actual suit will look just as cool.

Fang
May 25th, 2004, 01:14 PM
Clubtokyo/monsterzero (http://clubtokyo.org/monsterzero/news/gfw/gigan.jpg)

This is truley amazing.

SuperGodzillaF1
May 25th, 2004, 02:05 PM
<font color='#000F22'>KICK@SS

Solar_Behemoth
May 25th, 2004, 03:07 PM
AWESOME!

Angiru-San
May 25th, 2004, 03:46 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>i just dont get why they are going to try to pull off aliens.....they are going TOO showa now....the whole atomic mutations and world havok was enough for me!

So now they will haft to....

Explain hedorahs origin
fit aliens in
build an underwater super machine
show all those damn monsters (a good thing, dont take me wrong)
kill Minya (YEEEHA!http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
awake an anchient mummified beast
and most importantly show Godzilla's worldwide rampage!

ALL IN LESS THAN 2 HOURS!

They better have one hell of a grip on this.....and the alients better not be some stupid people with star trek bands on their eyes and glitter suits.....

ALLOSAURZ
May 25th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Quote[/b] (Angilas @ May 25 2004,15:46)]i just dont get why they are going to try to pull off aliens.....they are going TOO showa now....the whole atomic mutations and world havok was enough for me!

So now they will haft to....

Explain hedorahs origin
fit aliens in
build an underwater super machine
show all those damn monsters (a good thing, dont take me wrong)
kill Minya (YEEEHA!http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
awake an anchient mummified beast
and most importantly show Godzilla's worldwide rampage!

ALL IN LESS THAN 2 HOURS!

They better have one hell of a grip on this.....and the alients better not be some stupid people with star trek bands on their eyes and glitter suits.....
All this is why I love Toho hehe. It brings back so many good memories. Who cares if the plot is ludicris. This is a celebration of Godzilla's roots.

Angiru-San
May 25th, 2004, 03:52 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>ludicrous....

thats a damn good word for it right about now.....

but hey...It'll be fun and interesting, thats for sure!

Mecha-Rodan
May 25th, 2004, 04:02 PM
I like his claws... And his coloration... And his overall look...
Ah hell, I like him. Maybe this new design is indicative that those shadows are not entirly true? Afterall, Hedorah has amazing potential when you think about it... Yet his shadow is pretty much the same thing as Showa's.

Angiru-San
May 25th, 2004, 04:06 PM
<font color='#FF0000'>yeah thats kinda what I was thinking...like the actual sketch that is thrown in will turn up a different shape and imag all together....lets hope so for Minya's sake......and KC's too! He looks the exact same!

(referring to what mecha-rodan said)

Husnock
May 25th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Quote[/b] (PyrasTerran @ May 25 2004,16:18)]No King Ghidorah.. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
That's... very upsetting... http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif *http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif

Well, at least we get a rather interesting new look for Gigan. *He looks pretty wicked. *Hopefully this won't end up a repeat of the G2K Marquette incident, with us getting a still-cool-but-much-less-so costume. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

The Great MM
May 25th, 2004, 05:35 PM
All I can say in the &quot;Leatherface&quot; of kaiju world just went up to be the &quot;Blade&quot; of the kaiju world. Man, I bet we will get some heads a flying, bodies cut in half, and some blood.

But if the Xians end up being campy like in GvsMZ, I will be pissed. They should be aliens, with white skin, big black eyes, telepathic, and don't speak english but when they send signals into people, they hear it as english... yea, that is what the Xians should be...

And for Christ's sake, give it a better name then &quot;Planet X&quot; make it something cool and original like Xiazen.

Dark Warrior
May 26th, 2004, 07:53 AM
Meh,its okay.Never been a big fan of Gigan anyway,so this is somewhat of an improvement...but its just okay,nothing above that.

May 26th, 2004, 01:37 PM
Looks cool. It kinda looks humanish. But the suit design will look more monsterous

Aragorn_Strider22
May 26th, 2004, 01:46 PM
It's an improvement over the old space chicken, but it's still meh.

May 26th, 2004, 03:33 PM
The actual suit will probably look kinda diffrent from that picture. like the legs of the picture are to skinny and humanish, but when the suit is made it'll probably look like a actual monster.

Komissar
May 26th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Unless the suit is made slightly less garish, I'm not too fond of the GFW Gigan. Pardon my sentimentality with regard to Showa films, but I'll always remember Gigan as that campy space chicken. Giving him Mechagodzilla 1 knees and elbows, adding spikes to the claws, making such a stark sail color, and turning him from aquamarine to jet black all makes this kaiju very modern-looking, and sleek. In its own right, it's a good monster design, but I don't prefer it to the original...

LONG LIVE KING GHIDORAH! (that was unnecessary)

MeWantFudgeSickle
May 26th, 2004, 10:02 PM
<font color='#728FCE'>I think the new Gigan looks awesome. &nbsp;Forget about Monster X, this Gigan looks like it could kick Godzilla's *** six ways to Sunday all by itself.

HolyGoji777
May 26th, 2004, 11:48 PM
i dont know about gigan finishing the big g by himself but he does look awesome

kaijufan1000
May 27th, 2004, 07:32 AM
<font color='#0000FF'>i really like gigans look. it was surprising at first what he looked like. cant wait until they have revealed what the other kaiju look like.

Saruman
May 27th, 2004, 06:05 PM
I like the old design better, this one has that &quot;Sentai&quot; feel to it a little to much for me. I do really like the design of the claws though, they look very cool. Hopefully the actual suite will have different coloring and texturing to it and make him look a bit more bulky, oh and give him bigger back fins/wings, the ones in the picture look way to small.

Metal Zombie
May 27th, 2004, 06:29 PM
<font color='#810541'>I agree with Jeff, the design looks fine and all, but there's just something about it that I don't like. He doesn't look like he'd fit in too much, IMO...

WitchKing667
May 28th, 2004, 12:43 AM
<font color='#000F22'>I like the design, though I don't LOVE it and I personally prefer the classic design. They should have brought Mahiro Maeda in to design all the kaiju for this film. I'm actually happier with Godzilla's design since it seems they are using a design very similar to the G2K marquette.
Still, it is quite badass and it'll be an awesome looking suit. It's certainly better than Tredmaster's godawful action figure.

Burkion
May 28th, 2004, 01:29 PM
Two words that discribe it. GOD DAMN!


Though I will miss old Space Chiken!

Leviaman
May 28th, 2004, 02:18 PM
Yikes, he now looks like a Evil Alien shredding machine.. I love it!

kaijufan1000
May 28th, 2004, 03:46 PM
<font color='#0000FF'>the new gigan looks cool. and as Leviaman said he does look like a shredding machine. i like this design as much as the classic design.

MetalMonster
May 29th, 2004, 06:46 PM
If his legs weren't quite so long and he wasn't so slim... he'd be the perfect kaiju.

Solar_Behemoth
May 29th, 2004, 07:07 PM
^

Slim is a good thing. I like how Gigan is not big and bulky (as he would be if he was in the Heisei series) so he can do more physical attacks with his hand swords.

spike spiegal
May 29th, 2004, 07:10 PM
Gigan is going to kick ***. 'Nuff said.

MetalMonster
May 29th, 2004, 08:43 PM
Quote[/b] (henry_venetta @ May 29 2004,19:07)]Slim is a good thing. I like how Gigan is not big and bulky (as he would be if he was in the Heisei series) so he can do more physical attacks with his hand swords.
The slimness adds a humanoid element I don't care for. I'd prefer if his build was closer to that of the Gigan modelled for the Godzilla:DAMM game, with a lower center of gravity, wider hips and a broader stance.

Varan101
May 29th, 2004, 09:41 PM
The old Gigan was fat and had more of a beer gut....the kaiju in this movie were obviously designed for more physical battling rather than the beam fests of the heisei era.

HolyGoji777
May 29th, 2004, 10:01 PM
the humanoid thing is troubling but i dont see it too much with gigan...he looks good

THE ONE AND ONLY
May 30th, 2004, 12:42 AM
Godzilla's most sadistic, psychotic enemy is back and updated for the &nbsp;21st Century in a most spectacular way. &nbsp;http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif Batman has the Joker. Superman has the Toyman. Spider-Man has Carnage. Godzilla has .......GIGAN. Pity all those that get on Gigan's bad side. &nbsp;http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skull.gif &nbsp;http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skull.gif &nbsp;http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skull.gif

P.S.-By the way if you can't tell, big Gigan fan over here. http://www.kaijuphile.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nod.gif

spike spiegal
May 30th, 2004, 01:52 PM
With those eyes on Gigan's legs I can picture a gruesome death delivered from Godzilla.

Master Fwiffo
August 8th, 2004, 12:00 AM
Just got this off Monster Zero- and yes, these are real. Try and fake this!

http://homepage3.nifty.com/g-kingdom/event/gigan.htm

I need new pants.

MechaV
August 8th, 2004, 12:09 AM
Wow! It's...amazing!

Goji Son
August 8th, 2004, 12:09 AM
I don't like it... I don't like alot of the suits in this film...

Shin lvl2 Goji
August 8th, 2004, 12:15 AM
Pure awesomeness that's all I can say, pure and total awesomeness.Gigan's already possibly the coolest looking monster ever created and here he looks beyond amazing and that's saying something.

CBright7831
August 8th, 2004, 12:31 AM
Something tells me Gigan is going to be the Darth Maul of Final Wars.

Melkor
August 8th, 2004, 12:34 AM
Are those...teeth?

I have to say it looks more terrifying than the old gigan, and a lot more menacing, too. They could have toned down the overly-slashy look, though. He looks more like something you'd find in a Horror movie than a Godzilla movie. Other than that, I think it looks great.



Peace,



Melkor



:darklord:

Showa Godzilla
August 8th, 2004, 01:04 AM
Awesome!That Gigan is alot more menacing than his Showa Counterpart.Great Suit design.

ALLOSAURZ
August 8th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Gigan suit --- extremely hardcore
Godzilla suit--- extremely hardcore
Reused mothra prop---Fantastic
Kumonga prop---extremely hardcore
Kamakiras prop--- can't go wrong with a mantid
Rodan--- eh I'll need to see more
Anguirus--- How could they have gone so wrong... I'll try to remain optomistic that is try...

Husnock
August 8th, 2004, 01:17 AM
WOW... Looks like the absolute last thing you'd ever want to wake up screaming from an especially horrendous nightmare to come face-to-face with...

Zillamon51
August 8th, 2004, 01:25 AM
He looks more like something you'd find in a Horror movie than a Godzilla movie.
That's why I love it ... at any size, this creature would be terrifying.

This Gigan is going to rip some new ones, that's for sure!

PyrasTerran
August 8th, 2004, 02:43 AM
Oh.. My.. God.

I want that.

rodan70
August 8th, 2004, 04:15 AM
Wow....... That might be the coolest looking monster I've seen.........

Master Fwiffo
August 8th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Whered.... my.... topic go?

*sobs*

MechaV
August 8th, 2004, 12:30 PM
It got merged to save space.

Burkion
August 8th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Hm...ANy one else wondering if he's going to attack Camp Crystle Lake? All I can say is this: SLASHER SLASHER! We have, the OTHER Jason Voorhees of Monster movies!

Gorjirus
August 8th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Must... see... Gigan... in... action....

It looks so much better than the art concept. I must find that toy.....

monsterlover1992
August 8th, 2004, 04:08 PM
it's so cool.
it gives gigan a more robotic look
and after all he is suppoused to be a cyborg.

Varan101
August 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Poll is a bit one sided, don't ya think? :P

Solar_Behemoth
August 8th, 2004, 07:24 PM
:o

That... is so damn cool!
If this Gigan is executed well and and is very realistic throughout the movie, this monster is going to be one of my favorite kaiju!
A big improvement over the 70s design!

This Gigan looks deadly! :skull:

Orga777
August 8th, 2004, 07:28 PM
This is the best thing that can happen to Gigan. Now mabye he won't run away as much as he did in the other movies he was in.

Zearatul
August 8th, 2004, 07:44 PM
****! That's awesome! Must... make... SOMETHING...

Raptor
August 8th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Poll is a bit one sided, don't ya think? :PThe poll has now been fixed to reflect the choices on the old forum and the votes tallied there.

SO GO VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T! :p

THE ONE AND ONLY
August 8th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Does anyone else think that whatever battle this model of Gigan (and walks away from)is sent into, its aftermath will look like the Bride vs. the Crazy 88s near the end of Kill Bill Vol. 1?

Angiru-San
August 8th, 2004, 09:28 PM
In the words of many famous comedians:

HAMANA

HAMANA

HAMANA!

I AM GOING TO GO BALISTIC! MUAHAHHAHA!

His eyes....they glow so ...so....evily (if thats a word)

His armour and metal parts looks fantastic. Hands down this is my favorite kaiju in GFW so far. No questions.

Dino Hunter 2.0
August 8th, 2004, 09:46 PM
I don't like it all that much. It looks awfully skinny and fake to me. (er...well, for a recent suit, I mean.) But that could be that it just isn't finished yet, which I presume it isn't... ?

Roehm
August 8th, 2004, 09:55 PM
I think his new suit redesign is great, a very welcome addition to this film in my book. I really like how they slimed him down and changed the way his blades look.

ALLOSAURZ
August 8th, 2004, 10:07 PM
In the words of many famous comedians:

HAMANA

HAMANA

HAMANA!

I AM GOING TO GO BALISTIC! MUAHAHHAHA!

His eyes....they glow so ...so....evily (if thats a word)

His armour and metal parts looks fantastic. Hands down this is my favorite kaiju in GFW so far. No questions.
Don't you mean eye?

monsterlover1992
August 8th, 2004, 10:22 PM
like i said this design was meant for him
not only does he look cool but he matches what he is suppoused to be
a cyborg.:)

Angiru-San
August 8th, 2004, 10:25 PM
Don't you mean eye?


Heh...I guess I do. My bad! I was caught up in the excitement. He just looks so damn cool!

monsterlover1992
August 8th, 2004, 10:27 PM
Heh...I guess I do. My bad! I was caught up in the excitement. He just looks so damn cool!

you got that freakin right:D

ALLOSAURZ
August 8th, 2004, 10:35 PM
Just so you know there is suppose to be a little winking eye in my post but it must have not shown up

Gojira2000
August 8th, 2004, 10:55 PM
*looks at the new Gigan suit* I'm.... I'm.... I'm speachless....


AWESOME! WOW! COOL! UNBELEIVABLE! FANTASTIC! GREAT! AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT!

Now.... why couldn't they do that to Godzilla?

My only complant is... he looks a little too... what is the word? wicked? But, other then that..... I LOVE IT! I CAN'T HELP BUT LOVE IT!

If they did this to Gigan.... just think of what Ghidorah will look like!.... *stops and thinks a moment* Uhh... on second thought, I'd rather not...

godofPH
August 8th, 2004, 11:51 PM
I have always loved Gigan and now...I LOVE HIM EVEN MORE!!!!!!!!! If only they woulda given minilla a good new look so he doesn't look like PillsberryDoughBoyzilla.

monsterlover1992
August 9th, 2004, 12:00 AM
no they make minilla look like gary colman.:D

The Cerebral Assassin
August 9th, 2004, 02:26 PM
It's Metal Gear Gigan!

Gigan looks like a Metal Gear.

Evil alla Pure
August 9th, 2004, 02:27 PM
This suit rocks! I can't wait to see it in action on the big screen!

The Great MM
August 9th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Wow, they actually stuck to the designs! Anyway, Gigan looks awesome, the Blade of the kaiju has returned!

HolyGoji777
August 9th, 2004, 03:39 PM
i think it would rule if we got to see pre-cyborg gigan in the movie. i have a figure i got while i was on vacation many many years ago that looks VERY similar to gigan only its not a cyborg. i imagined him looking something like that.

but regardless this is one of the BEST kaiju designs ever. i was always a fan of gigan now i like him even more.

Saruman
August 10th, 2004, 08:23 PM
I'm just waiting for the words.......

IT'S MORPHIN TIME!!!!!

To be uttered for the full effect.

Baryonyx13
August 10th, 2004, 08:24 PM
Even though he does look good, I have to say Sarumon made a good point. (Not to mention a funny one :p )

Varan101
August 10th, 2004, 11:09 PM
It is a cheap comparison though...

Power Rangers had men in suits, so does Godzilla. If anything Power Rangers ripped off Godzilla, not the other way around.

Do you expect a giant cybernetic chicken to look completely realistic? Its not like he did back in the 70's.

HolyGoji777
August 10th, 2004, 11:14 PM
yeah the original gigan looked pretty weird himself...i like this design. the humanoid appearance is only a minor flaw.

Angiru-San
August 10th, 2004, 11:15 PM
It is a cheap comparison though...

Power Rangers had men in suits, so does Godzilla. If anything Power Rangers ripped off Godzilla, not the other way around.

Do you expect a giant cybernetic chicken to look completely realistic? Its not like he did back in the 70's.

I agree 100%

Power Rangers and Godzilla are basically part of the same Genre. And this gigan looks a hell of alot more like any Slasher Villain then a Sentai Alien.

The old Gigan looks 10x more like something from Powerrangers....etc...but as soon as we get a new revamped (and very stylish) design after 30 years, THEN people complain. I know Saruman that you were just stating your opinion. So Im not referring to you. But it just gets old.

Tokyo VigilanteX
August 10th, 2004, 11:36 PM
THIS IS SOOO COOL!!

Why are people complaining?
This is whatcha' got.Take it,or leave it.

This Gigan looks just plain devilish,and like he was sucked through the MATRIX!

Solar_Behemoth
August 10th, 2004, 11:58 PM
Why are people complaining?


Because about 40% of the Godzilla fanbase is picky.

PyrasTerran
August 11th, 2004, 01:26 AM
folks, no one was complaining. Saruman just made a funny joke(which works perfectly with the picture where Gig has his arms crossed), lighten thee up.

Saruman
August 11th, 2004, 01:49 AM
It is a cheap comparison though...

Power Rangers had men in suits, so does Godzilla. If anything Power Rangers ripped off Godzilla, not the other way around.

Do you expect a giant cybernetic chicken to look completely realistic? Its not like he did back in the 70's.How is that a cheap comparrison? It's a totally valid comparrison. Just because both use men in rubber suites that doesnt mean the they have to look like it. When I watch a Godzilla film the furthest thing from my mind is that the monsters are men in rubber suites. But when I look at THAT Gigan, all I can see is a Power Ranger monster. If thats acceptable to you then that's fine, but I was expecting more than a simple PR or Kamen Rider reject costume. Other than the head and the blade hands, the rest of the suite to me is a big disappointment. They really could have done so much better than this.

And I don't think I said anything about him looking "realistic" now did I? Realism has nothing to do with it at all. It's simply about looking at a monster and saying "Hey, that's Gigan," not looking at is and thinking "Damn, what Power Rangers show did that thing come out of," the later of which is exactly what that Gigan makes me think. That to me isn't a good thing.

Oh, and here's something else for your "cheap comparrison" to mull over. How many Godzilla films had "super heros" running around in super ships?

Now how many things like Power Rangers and Kamen Rider have "super heroes" running around in super ships?

Yeah, I think that pretty much says it all right there, it's a very valid comparrison.

Varan101
August 11th, 2004, 02:11 AM
It will always look like men in rubber suits because of the fact you know its a man in a rubber suit. Its pretty difficult to fool an audience and especially difficult to fool the brain. CGI is not 100 percent effective because you know it doesn't exist, and something inside your brain tells you it isn't right. No special effects are 100 percent effective if you know how the movie is being made or the techniques behind it.

Having said that, I really don't see how Gigan cannot look like a sentai monster. He did back in the 70's and he does now. It is near impossible to take something that is already an outrageous concept (Gigan) and turn it into something that is completely convincing. I personally have yet to see a kaiju of whom I thought "Wow, that thing could really exist!"

Its a cheap comparison because the only real difference between Godzilla and Power Rangers is 1) story 2) budget. Yes, Godzilla movies have before featured men fighting in giant robots vs giant kaiju (MechaGodzilla, MOGUERA) and have featured extremely corny characters with super powers (M-11, Miki), and aliens from outer space.

But to each his own. Not going to argue the point further because its really not worth it.

anguirus55
August 11th, 2004, 02:27 PM
But to each his own. Not going to argue the point further because its really not worth it.


If more people realized this, the fandom as a whole would be so much less spastic and hypersensitive that we would not even recognize it.

Saruman
August 11th, 2004, 04:55 PM
It will always look like men in rubber suits because of the fact you know its a man in a rubber suit. Its pretty difficult to fool an audience and especially difficult to fool the brain. CGI is not 100 percent effective because you know it doesn't exist, and something inside your brain tells you it isn't right. No special effects are 100 percent effective if you know how the movie is being made or the techniques behind it.
Again your totally missing the point of what I said, i'll quote myself.
It's simply about looking at a monster and saying "Hey, that's Gigan," not looking at is and thinking "Damn, what Power Rangers show did that thing come out of," the later of which is exactly what that Gigan makes me think. That to me isn't a good thing.
It's not about it being a man in a rubber suite, we know that they are. It's about being able to look at the monster and see the monster, not a man in a suite. When I look at this new Gigan design, I see a man in a suite. When I look at the original Gigan, I see Gigan, that is the difference.

Having said that, I really don't see how Gigan cannot look like a sentai monster. He did back in the 70's and he does now. It is near impossible to take something that is already an outrageous concept (Gigan) and turn it into something that is completely convincing. I personally have yet to see a kaiju of whom I thought "Wow, that thing could really exist!"
Here again your not getting what I meant. It's not about "realism" or it looking like it could be a "real monster." Everyone knows these creatures are fake, realism isnt even a concern to me. My concern is when I look at these creatures that I simply see the creature and not the man in the suite, so to speak. With the new Gigan I see the man in the suite more than the monster.

Its a cheap comparison because the only real difference between Godzilla and Power Rangers is 1) story 2) budget. Yes, Godzilla movies have before featured men fighting in giant robots vs giant kaiju (MechaGodzilla, MOGUERA) and have featured extremely corny characters with super powers (M-11, Miki), and aliens from outer space.
Guess you didn't understand what I said. How many "super heroes" have you seen in Godzilla movies? By that I mean people with super powers above a normal human. M11 doesn't count because he's not human, he's a robot. The closest you can come in Godzilla movies is Miki with her psychic powers and she is hardly a "super hero." The people that piloted things like SMG & MOGUERA are also not "super heroes," they are simply military people doing their job.

Then you look at GFW and what do we have? Let's see, Mutant's with super human powers that are supposed to be capable of fighting these Kaiju? Gee, what does that sound like? Power Rangers, Kamen Rider, Zone Fighter, Ultraman and the many other similar shows.

But to each his own. Not going to argue the point further because its really not worth it.
Arguing? I'm just telling you what I think of this Gigan, which is that I don't like him. If you think he's ok, thats fine for you, but I was expecting something much more impressive than what we've been shown. I didn't like his concept art and I like the actual suite even less. Thank God that Kumonga and Kamacuras look so incredible, their the bright spots right now IMO.

ALLOSAURZ
August 11th, 2004, 05:20 PM
I still don't see how this looks like a power ranger's villain. To me it looks like another kaiju... that is a sadist.

Jet Jaguar
August 11th, 2004, 05:23 PM
The new Gigan is an interesting look, but didnt need to be updated.
The old look was excellent enuff

Baryonyx13
August 11th, 2004, 05:26 PM
I agree, I loved old Gigan. Maybe a little slimmer was ok, but they took it to the extreme. Not too bad though, he's alot better than what I've seen of Anguirus so far.

Excelsior
August 11th, 2004, 06:59 PM
I still don't really like the updates, but even I have to admit that Gigan Version 2 is one badass-lookin' mofo.

godzookie
August 12th, 2004, 05:30 AM
I like the new suit even if it looks more sentai than kaiju.

kent
August 12th, 2004, 11:10 AM
I love the new Gigan suit. My only gripe is that it's so tight around the actor, it looks too humanoid looking. Would have been nice if they would have made it wider to make it not look so humanoid.

monsterlover1992
August 12th, 2004, 01:54 PM
guys here are some more if you haven't seen them
http://homepage3.nifty.com/g-kingdom/event/gigan1.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/g-kingdom/event/gigan2.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/g-kingdom/event/newgigan.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/g-kingdom/event/gigan3.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/g-kingdom/event/gigan4.jpg

Halomek
August 12th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Those pictures really sell the suit to me. I was a little curious to see if they could keep the coolness of the illustration and it seems to me that they’ll pull it off.

As for everyone who keeps saying the design is too Sentai, let's not forget the original Gigan was actually in a Sentai show.

Zone Fighter, anyone? ;)

Saruman
August 13th, 2004, 10:41 PM
As for everyone who keeps saying the design is too Sentai, let's not forget the original Gigan was actually in a Sentai show.

Zone Fighter, anyone? ;)
Not 100% true. There was A Gigan in Zone Fighter, but it clearly wasn't the same one that was in GvG, unless they decided that taking away his ability to fly would make him better. But his parachutes were pretty nifty. :laugh:

The Great MM
August 13th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Not 100% true. There was A Gigan in Zone Fighter, but it clearly wasn't the same one that was in GvG, unless they decided that taking away his ability to fly would make him better. But his parachutes were pretty nifty. :laugh:

It was Gigan. Toho Kingdom says so atleast... The what ever you call them aliens captured him, and put explosive things on his claws...and I guess gave him a parachute...

Shin lvl2 Goji
October 25th, 2004, 12:20 AM
I was searching the forums and there wasn't really a Gigan in general thread so that's what this is for. The first thing I was wondering about was Gigan's upgrade. Exactly how much does he get damaged? Will Goji do an Ebirah and rip off both claws:darklord: or some other way? That was just what I was thinking about with Gigan just now but this can be for any general talk on him.

Zigra
October 25th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Well, the problem for a thread centering around Gigan in FW is that we don't know much about his overall role in the movie. We know from pictures that he will be constantly upgraded and will eventually become more and more mechanical throughout the movie, but we have no idea how or why and can only speculate.

We also know from the trailer that Gigan will fight Mothra at some point in the movie, but we know nothing about the outcome or if it has anything to do with with Gigan's transformation (i.e., possibly Mothra defeats him and wounds him to the point where he needs newer mechanical body parts).

Finally, thanks to a combination of photos and information about certain scenes, it appears that Gigan may be the "bad guy" kaiju that gets the most screen time (even though Monster X/Kaiser Ghidorah will obviously be the main villian). The fact that he will apparently appear in numerous battles (instead of just one or two) and that he'll go through a major evolution throughout the movie is a major tipoff of this point.

Archaic_Avenger
October 25th, 2004, 06:32 PM
yeah, kinda like the Emporer is the main villain, but Darth Vader is the most famous. oh, yeah. sorry to bring up such a painful subject...

anyways, on the subject at hand. Gigan's new suit redesign is absolutely great. he's got black, and red, and other colors, and the coolest looking claws i've ever seen on a kaiju. he's probably gonna be the one to bring in the most fans, or more specifically fans-to-be. he'll draw the most public, i'm guessing. i do hope, though, that they dont make him as much a coward as the old version.

Rodan2000

Zigra
October 25th, 2004, 06:51 PM
Actually, FW Gigan is more dark blue than black, but that's just a small point:)

DarkGojiLord
October 25th, 2004, 07:00 PM
:cursing:...........

Please don't let this be a thread for GFW Gigan fanboys. The new Gigan's cool but people are obsessing over saying he is going to get the most screen time and Kumonga is going to be there for Gigan to slaughter and all that crap.

SCGamerXX24
October 25th, 2004, 07:16 PM
i dont think ive seen ANYONE say that gigan faces off against kumonga...i'm fairly sure he only has a short battle with godzilla...

and y'd some1 rate this thread a 1? its a perfectly adequate thread. dont go ruining it just cuz your trying to be special and hating on a popular monster....

Zigra
October 25th, 2004, 07:43 PM
:cursing:...........

Please don't let this be a thread for GFW Gigan fanboys. The new Gigan's cool but people are obsessing over saying he is going to get the most screen time and Kumonga is going to be there for Gigan to slaughter and all that crap.

Uh, don't get so bent out of shape. If you don't believe Gigan will get a load of screen time, you aren't paying attention to the known facts. Of all the known battles in this movie, Gigan appears in more of them than any kaiju besides Godzilla himself (one against the EDF, one against Mothra, I think at least two against Godzilla himself, and one rumored battle against King Seesar). That, and the cold hard fact that Gigan will make an evolution in his forms is further evidence of the close focus Gigan will recieve. No, I'm not saying something stupid like "Gigan will be the star of this movie!". I'm saying that it seems Gigan will have one of the more prominent roles in this movie (not as prominent as Godzilla himself, of course;) )

Mothraleo
October 25th, 2004, 08:19 PM
:cursing:...........

Please don't let this be a thread for GFW Gigan fanboys. The new Gigan's cool but people are obsessing over saying he is going to get the most screen time and Kumonga is going to be there for Gigan to slaughter and all that crap.

... ho hay Ggan PWN!s! Eh's Going to rule in final warsGOOOOJ!

.... :p Couldn't help but do it lol. I like the idea of Gigan being damaged then being repaired but more. Kinda sounds like King Ghidora from Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah.

The Great MM
October 25th, 2004, 08:41 PM
It also appears Gigan is finally gonna get his laser!

SCGamerXX24
October 25th, 2004, 08:43 PM
It also appears Gigan is finally gonna get his laser!

where have you seen this? i want to see it!

The Great MM
October 25th, 2004, 08:48 PM
where have you seen this? i want to see it!

Something about monster stats, let me find that topic...

Godzilla: Height 100M and weight 55000 t
necessary shooting skill: Emission heat wave and hyper spiral heat wave

Anguirus: Length 160M, body high 40M and weight 60000 t
necessary shooting skill: Violent dragon mysterious sphere intense bullet (Anguirus ball)

Rodan: Height 100M and weight 30000 t
necessary shooting skill: Supersonic shocking pulverization wave

Mothra: Length 72M and weight 25000 t
necessary shooting skill: Fire heat attack and bonbaariatto(?)

Ebirah: Length 100M and weight 50000 t
necessary shooting skill: Crisis scissors

Kamacuras: Length 90M, body high 40M and weight 20000 t
necessary shooting skill: Crushing with 20M sickle

Kumonga: Length 60M, body high 35M and weight 30000 t
necessary shooting skill: Strong death-cross net

Hedorah: Height 120M and weight 70000 t
necessary shooting skill: Red melting light ray, sulfuric acid mist

King Caesar: Height 100M and weight 50000 t
necessary shooting skill: Tackle break (direct attack)

Gigan: Height 120M and weight 60000 t
necessary shooting skill: Spread light ray Gigarium cluster, buradeddo(?) cutter

Monster X: Height 120M and weight 60000 t
necessary shooting skill: Gravitation light ray Destroid thunder

DarkGojiLord
October 25th, 2004, 09:14 PM
There are just some boards that make GFW Gigan look like a "GOD", though this is not one of them.

Mothraleo
October 25th, 2004, 09:36 PM
There are just some boards that make GFW Gigan look like a "GOD", though this is not one of them.


We haven't seen more than 5 seconds of him on film. For all we know he may be uber-strong (for real, not just for fanboys).

kent
October 25th, 2004, 10:22 PM
I am excited about the new Gigan. Although I hope the other kaiju get some pretty good screentime as well.

Omega17
October 25th, 2004, 10:26 PM
Hmmm, we know Gigan must fight Mothra. Possibly, Mothra's "Fire Heat Attack" melts his metal and that's why he needs repairs on it? Or possibly her scale/powder will have a corosive (sp) effect this time around.

Melkor
October 26th, 2004, 04:25 AM
I like Gigan's new design, very much in fact. It looks alot more menacing and not to mention sadistic than the previous design, which in itself is still a great design. It should be interesting to see how Gigan uses his various hand attachments, I'm personally hoping to see some blood again. In any case, he's someone I'm anticipating to see on screen.



Peace,



Melkor



:darklord:

Kiryu goji
October 26th, 2004, 06:40 AM
Of course gigan must have a huge role in this movie! Why? Simple.

His design was first to show, suggesting Toho's been working with it longer and thus for more seens (speculation).
He has appeared in nearly every press photo. The antaarctic battle, that trading thingie (with Godzilla, MX and Artragon) the trailer, the TV spot ect.
He's been seen in several battles: 1 against godzilla, 1 against mothra, Antarctic battle and himself destroying that burning city.
Bandai has released more toys of him than any other kaiju (possible exception of godzilla here) for this movie.

This shows that Gigan is going to get a HUGE amount of screen time, and he'll thus have one of the high point roles of his career.

Excelsior
October 26th, 2004, 11:21 AM
1) Where did Project Pimp get that list of powers?

2) I like the idea of revamping Gigan, but his new design is still too intricate for my tastes. But that's just me.

Mecha-Rodan
October 26th, 2004, 02:10 PM
I'm very happy about Gigan's redesign. Every new pic that comes out makes him look more and more badass. It seems that he will have not one, but three chain-saws. Cay you say, "The Tokyo Chainsaw Massacre"? :darklord:

Project Pimp
October 26th, 2004, 03:33 PM
1) Where did Project Pimp get that list of powers?

Dude, I made it all up. Gigareum is the name of my dog, and Destroid is my mother's maiden name.

Actually... if memory serves me right, I got it off Godzillamovies.org or another Japanese fan site. In any case, I think the name of Gigan's second weapon is actually "blooded cutter". I suppose it's referring to his buzzsaw.

Kaiju_Sensai
October 26th, 2004, 04:51 PM
The new Gigan is awesome, I like it even better the more I see it. Now Pumpkinhead has someone to share his title of Most Badass Movie Monster. One theory for Gigan's importance in the film is quite possibly the fact that the might just be Kitamura's favorite kaiju. Thats the best explanation I could come up with.

The Great MM
October 26th, 2004, 05:11 PM
The new Gigan is awesome, I like it even better the more I see it. Now Pumpkinhead has someone to share his title of Most Badass Movie Monster. One theory for Gigan's importance in the film is quite possibly the fact that the might just be Kitamura's favorite kaiju. Thats the best explanation I could come up with.

In an artilce released (I believe at MZ or Henshin!) it said King Caesar was added because hes Katamura's fav, or something like that.

Angiru-San
October 26th, 2004, 05:14 PM
The new Gigan is sadistic...evil...and just a brilliant incarantion. I love him. I am not too fond of the double chainsaw hands, but Ill hold comment until I see them in action. Just Imagine the possibilities when one of those Double-Chainsaws hooks around Godzilla's neck...

Can you say HACK

Solar_Behemoth
October 26th, 2004, 05:48 PM
I don't know how anyone could not like Gigan's new design accept for those who complain that "it isn't like Showa Gigan!!!" The GFW Gigan is truely awesome, and, from what I've seen so far, the best monster for GFW.

His upgrade"s", actually I've only seen ONE, are pretty badass. Those chainsaws look pretty damn dangerous, and it gives a clue that we may be have pretty bloody film coming here. With Kitamura directing this film, I wouldn't be surprised if this film does turn into a gore-fest, or at least Gigan's battles, that is.

Thus far we 100% know of Gigan having these parts in GFW:

a. Gigan's (surprise?) attack on the EDHQ (this, I believe, will be Earth's wake-up call that the Xians have plans on destroying the world. In other words, this will be the Xians first attack) Now it is possible Gigan's claws will be damaged and broken up IF the Earth soldiers attack Gigan with the Atragon. That's just a possibly, though.

b. Gigan battles Mothra. (possibly his claws will be damaged by Mothra's so-called "Fire attack")

c. Gigan and Kaiser Ghidorah's skull form battle Godzilla
This battle, apparently, takes place later in the film before his battle with Mothra and the EDHQ attack since Gigan now has his chainsaw weapons.

Zearatul
November 21st, 2004, 08:41 PM
Is it possible that Gigan was not originaly created by the Xians or the roaches at all? That possibly Gigan was created right here on earth? Here's my reasoning:

Gigan is rumored a mummified monster (see "News From the Chiller"), also Gigan is a cyborg that resembles a dragon, now there is also a certain golem that was supposed to have defeated a dragon in Gigan's first movie. Now what if Gigan was the dragon? What if the aliens that control him rebuilt him? What if he is yet another ancient kaiju? This puts him in the same place as other kaiju who are supposed to have main parts in the film like Mothra and King Ceasar.

I'm not saying this is true I'm just suggesting it. Something to think about.

Neo-Crucifer
November 21st, 2004, 08:44 PM
Is it possible that Gigan was not originaly created by the Xians or the roaches at all? That possibly Gigan was created right here on earth? Here's my reasoning:

Gigan is rumored a mummified monster (see "News From the Chiller"), also Gigan is a cyborg that resembles a dragon, now there is also a certain golem that was supposed to have defeated a dragon in Gigan's first movie. Now what if Gigan was the dragon? What if the aliens that control him rebuilt him? What if he is yet another ancient kaiju? This puts him in the same place as other kaiju who are supposed to have main parts in the film like Mothra and King Ceasar.

I'm not saying this is true I'm just suggesting it. Something to think about.Isn't Gigan from Gorath? :confused:

godofPH
November 21st, 2004, 08:46 PM
He either is from Earth or came to Earth a long time ago. Because there are official pics of him being the mummy. On the GFW gallery on STE, it has Gigan in some kind of factory and he is like a skeleton.

Solar_Behemoth
November 21st, 2004, 09:21 PM
[COLOR=Red]Is it possible that Gigan was not originaly created by the Xians or the roaches at all?

It sure is. Although he was born on another planet millions of years ago and came to Earth and battled Mothra. So technically, he doesn't have a terrestrial origin.

Gigan is rumored a mummified monster (see "News From the Chiller")

It isn't a rumor.

Now what if Gigan was the dragon?

Gigan doesn't resemble a dragon at all in my eyes....

What if the aliens that control him rebuilt him?

That's the most plausible thing. Who else would build him? Humans to fight against Mothra?

Zearatul
November 21st, 2004, 09:27 PM
That's the most plausible thing. Who else would build him? Humans to fight against Mothra?Or rather those darn industrialist who want to sell the poor innocent shojibin's song in just about every movie Mothra is ever in... :eyebrow:

PyrasTerran
December 11th, 2004, 11:20 AM
I'm sorry, I don't know where else to put this. Once the question has been resolved, you can swiftly delete this.

I need to find a good picture of mummified remains of Gigan. Who has one/where can I find one?

Thanks..

SCGamerXX24
December 11th, 2004, 11:31 AM
i dont have one personally, but isnt there a good one on the xbox G:ste?

Gojira2000
December 11th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Henshin! Online has a pic of gigan mummified, and also go to the thread "scaned GFW photos", or something like that. One of the links gives you a pic of Gigan with a smaller side pic of what your looking I think. Also check out the photos at MZ, they may have one.

Ben-H
May 19th, 2005, 11:59 AM
What do y'all think of Gigan in GFW?

Kevzilla
May 19th, 2005, 01:17 PM
I like the new look, but I think the original is always bast.

Orga777
May 19th, 2005, 02:50 PM
The new look totally trumps the old crappy one that he had in the 70's. And he isn't a wussy coward like the original either.

godofPH
May 19th, 2005, 03:14 PM
The new look totally trumps the old crappy one that he had in the 70's. And he isn't a wussy coward like the original either.

Damn right! The new Gigan PWNS the original!

Megabyte
May 19th, 2005, 03:56 PM
Damn right! The new Gigan PWNS the original!

I second that motion! :laugh:

Mothraleo
May 19th, 2005, 10:09 PM
I like the new Gigan. Not my favorite updated Final Wars kaiju, but easily one of the best as far as design is concerned.

RobDowneyJr
May 19th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Don't forget that the whole new Gigan is just an updated version of the original design so it's natural that he looks sleek, and meaner, but the original concept is still there which was, in my opinion one of the greatest monster concepts ever to come of Toho.

HolyGoji777
May 20th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Don't forget that the whole new Gigan is just an updated version of the original design so it's natural that he looks sleek, and meaner, but the original concept is still there which was, in my opinion one of the greatest monster concepts ever to come of Toho.

i second that! Gigan was already one of the koolest kaiju and i think the new design reflects that as well. ill always love the old one as well though

Kaiju_Sensai
May 20th, 2005, 03:37 AM
Gigan's always been my favorite. I love both the new & classic designs about equally. I've been waiting a long time for Gigan to come back. I'm very happy with the way he turned out. The costume actually far surpasses even the concept art which rarely, if ever, happens. To bad the same can't be said for Anguirus.

Enshohma
May 20th, 2005, 12:43 PM
I never viewed the original Gigan as a simple coward, more of a scoundrel, someone who is nasty in attitude and battle but will run away when all the chips are down, for lack of a better term. You have to admit, Gigan does hold his own and I prefer villains who'll run away to fight another day as opposed to getting killed in their first appearance, ALA just about every villain character being used today.

Now about the new Gigan, the design is extremely sweet, better then the rather plump Showa incarnation and the black leather look matches a scoundrel quite well. Unfortunately the new one doesn't have any kind of personality and although the original would escape when a battle has ended, this one is, well, is rather weak and easily breakable. In press releases for Final Wars, Gigan was being billed as a sort of monster general for the bad guys and even a bigger villain then Monster X / Kaiser Ghidorah was. But in the finished film itself, we barely see him and he doesn't last long against Godzilla in both his briefly seen battles. Now I think its less the character's fault then it is the movie, which abruptly stops anything monster related and made Godzilla way too powerful.

In retrospect, any Gigan is a good thing and I do enjoy them both for their respective strengths, but if I had to pick one over the other, I'd probably go with the original version. On the other hand, if this was a better world, or at least a better directed / written "Final Wars" we could have mixed both Gigans to make a more memorable comeback. A truly vicious and cruel badass space beast who does a lot of damage on Godzilla and Mothra, until they succeed in ripping both his arms off, from which point he realizes he's screwed!

Mecha74
May 20th, 2005, 01:02 PM
My favorite design from GFW, I would've liked to see him last a little longer in battle though, especially after his upgrade.

Kiryu goji
May 21st, 2005, 02:36 PM
I thought Gigan was sinister and ruthless, but he knew when to quit, making him one of the more intelligent Kaiju. That said, GFW Gigan is much better in my opinion (more of a Mech, better color scheme ect.) but the original is darn cool too. The charachter is one of the few kaiju whose allways been on my top 10 list!