SpaceGodzilla & Destoroyah vs. Gigan (GFW) 2 & Kaiser Ghidorah

[The Great MM]

SpaceGodzilla & Destoroyah vs. Gigan (GFW) 2 & Kaiser Ghidorah


Arena: Hong Kong

Rules: SpaceGodzilla has his power source and crystals set up.

What team of these super-powers will win!?

[anguirus55]

Damn, this might actually be competitive. The Kaiser might well get stalled on SG considering his shield. Gigan and Destroyer can kill each other very quickly...but Destroyer will reform and Gigan won't. If SG and Des double-team Kaiser...well, that's just a frightening thing for any one kaiju to face, even the vaunted Kaiser. But obviously, I haven't seen the film, so that's all I got.

[Desumaytah]

I say that they all make friends and kill everything, ever.

Honsetly though, despite my absolute agape for Destoroyah, he's been dethroned by GFW Gigan in my heart...And Kaiser is a MONSTER to face. I think that Gigan's awesomeness and Kaiser's mighty hell-powers give them the best chance of winning this excellent battle.

60/40 in favor of the GFW team, I'd say.

...Yes, I know that "awesomeness" isn't a deciding factor in a fight, but Gigan is going to hold his own against either of his foes for a while. He could, quite conceivably, murder SG up close, and he'll probably cause Destoroyah to reform several times before an extremely lucky laser horn finds his neck.

Whoever Kaiser Ghidorah goes after first is dead. Maybe Destoroyah could survive the bite, but that is debateable. SG has a worthy arsenal, but I don't see it as any match for Kaiser's Gravitic Insta-Win beams of doom.

The best chance the Heisei team has is if Destoroyah seperates into his multiple aggregate forms and goes after Kaiser like that, in an attempt to confuse him, break the focus of his gravity beams, and whittle the monster down; while this is going on, SG needs to focus as much of his arsenal as possible on Gigan.

[PyrasTerran]

If Gigan can face Space Goji first, I believe he'd last to fight alongside Kaiser against Destroyah. Even if not, it's just a matter of time before Kaiser is done playing with Destroyah's body and he brings him in to drain him of his life.

[anguirus55]

^ But what if Destroyer goes all poofy?

[Solar_Behemoth]

I seriously suggest that less GFW battles will be made, people....
soon all possibilities will be wiped out at this rate. But that's just me.
Don't we have about 5 other GFW monster battles to discuss? :confused:

The more battles made, the more they'll be ignored. That's a waste, IMO.

[PyrasTerran]

I don't know what you're talking about, Henry. the Final Wars battles have given KK a boost in activity.

^ But what if Destroyer goes all poofy?

It's debateable, IMO, whether he'd be able to or not while being paralyzed. And if he does manage to turn into the aggregates, he'd be in SERIOUS trouble, because all Kaiser needs to do is tramble them down and wipe out the rest with gravity bolts(besides being able to be used to hold a kaiju, they can also just do aLOT of damage).

The thing about Kaiser Ghidorah that makes him so deadly is that he is VERY responsive and can quickly adapt to a situation/counter an attack. If Godzilla shoots a blast, he immediately blasts it away. If Godzilla is right next to him, he wastes no time in trampling him. If Godzilla grabs one of the heads, the first reaction is hitting Godzilla square in the face to have him let go.

[Gorjirus]

Also, Anguirus55, if Spacegodzilla uses his shield against Kaiser Ghidorah, those bolts will easily go around the shield, as they are directly controlled by Kaiser (and I will love to see what Tomzilla would say about Spacegodzilla moving the shield to compensate).

[anguirus55]

^ OK, I realized that later.

And you do remember GvsD? Destroyer disappeared, turned into aggregates which were immediately destroyed, and he still came back! Without the ability to dish out EXTREME cold or heat damage Kaiser Ghidorah can't kill Destroyer.

However, it is certainly possible for him to win.

[Gorjirus]

It would most likely be the Life Drain that would defeat Destroyah. Even the microbes have life to drain. Right?...

[anguirus55]

But via its reformation ability, it can simply assume gaseous form before it can be drained. In fact, it seems to be a sort of reflex to do this when it is weakened.

[The Great MM]

But via its reformation ability, it can simply assume gaseous form before it can be drained. In fact, it seems to be a sort of reflex to do this when it is weakened.

I doubt. Even when Ghidorah bit down on Godzilla, Godzilla didn't even move...not even his tail.

[Gorjirus]

Couldn't KG, theoretically, drain the life from the cloud, or at least the smaller form? Also, if he is hit by the Gravity Rays, which I heard has paralysing effects (though I might be mistaken). Would Destroyah be able to deform?

[PyrasTerran]

And you do remember GvsD? Destroyer disappeared, turned into aggregates which were immediately destroyed, and he still came back! Without the ability to dish out EXTREME cold or heat damage Kaiser Ghidorah can't kill Destroyer.

However, it is certainly possible for him to win.

Correct. Exactly how long did it take for Destroyer to return to the scene after Godzilla destroyed the aggregates? Certainly long enough for win.

It would most likely be the Life Drain that would defeat Destroyah. Even the microbes have life to drain. Right?...

Correct.

Couldn't KG, theoretically, drain the life from the cloud, or at least the smaller form? Also, if he is hit by the Gravity Rays, which I heard has paralysing effects (though I might be mistaken). Would Destroyah be able to deform?

That is the million-dollar question. It's unsure as to whether Destroyah would be able to do anything at all if he is being held. The bolts certainly have paralyzing effects, and Kaiser Ghidorah drains energy at such a fast rate than Godzilla was too weak to move in seconds.

[anguirus55]

Correct. Exactly how long did it take for Destroyer to return to the scene after Godzilla destroyed the aggregates? Certainly long enough for win.

You're awfully harsh. It was barely two minutes and then Godzilla started suffering incredible ***-kicking again.

The bolts certainly have paralyzing effects, and Kaiser Ghidorah drains energy at such a fast rate than Godzilla was too weak to move in seconds.

But when Destroyer becomes weak, he tends to split up. It doesn't take effort to break down, in fact it seems almost a relaxing of effort.

[Tomzilla]

This is the first thread I've read involving against SG, and allowing the space monster to [i]keep his abilities. (i.e. not have his shield taken away or his power source capability.)

Even then, the fight will be long, and horrendous. Against a killing machine like Gigan, SpaceGodzilla is going to have a real fight on his hands. I haven't processed an entire 'who'd win and how' report. I just am wondering what influence SG's telekinetic pulse would have on Gigan. After all, it made Moguera malfunction. Basically telling me the TK pulse packs an electromagnetic effect, and may be a potent weapon against monsters possessing mechanical parts of any kind. Gigan for one. So will it screw him up? Probably. Can't be certain, since it is alien engineering and advanced. But the technology involved in Moguera's creation happened to come from an advanced race of humans centuries beyond our own technical advancements. So who knows.

Kaiser Ghidorah can defeat either one of them. Gigan is a powerhouse, but when compared with his partner, he can just be cannonfodder. So I lean to Gigan and Kaiser Ghidorah's team.

[PyrasTerran]

I just am wondering what influence SG's telekinetic pulse would have on Gigan. After all, it made Moguera malfunction.

In space.. I don't recall him trying to use this very handy weapon on ground...

[Tomzilla]

In space.. I don't recall him trying to use this very handy weapon on ground...

No, he did not, but I thought in these fights, the kaiju would use whatever of their abilities to benefit them in a fight. After all, one could speculate SG felt the weapon didn't work (which it did), because Moguera returned, thus deemed it a waste of energy.

Though I'm surprised you of all people, Pyras, are getting picky on this matter. Since Irys never used sonic beams on the ground, you have insisted he would in these fantasy fights. (Your reasons have already been noted, no need to bring them up now, but if you'd like, be my guest. ;) ) Thus, I just explained my reasoning of why SG didn't against Moguera on Earth.

[PyrasTerran]

No, he did not, but I thought in these fights, the kaiju would use whatever of their abilities to benefit them in a fight. After all, one could speculate SG felt the weapon didn't work (which it did), because Moguera returned, thus deemed it a waste of energy.

But what was it that caused him to use it against MOGUERA only and not Godzilla?

Though I'm surprised you of all people, Pyras, are getting picky on this matter. Since Irys never used sonic beams on the ground, you have insisted he would in these fantasy fights. (Your reasons have already been noted, no need to bring them up now, but if you'd like, be my guest. ) Thus, I just explained my reasoning of why SG didn't against Moguera on Earth.

lol, but SG's issue makes alot less sense than Irys'. We only see SG use his telekinetic pulse thingamobobber in his flying crystal form, and only against MOGUERA. Why didn't he use it against Godzilla? Can he tell the difference between a machine and a monster? Would the pulse hurt Godzilla at all?

I'm not saying SG can't use his pulse within the earth's atmosphere, I just don't believe it's part of his arsenal when he has legs.

[PyrasTerran]

No, he did not, but I thought in these fights, the kaiju would use whatever of their abilities to benefit them in a fight. After all, one could speculate SG felt the weapon didn't work (which it did), because Moguera returned, thus deemed it a waste of energy.

But what was it that caused him to use it against MOGUERA only and not Godzilla?

Though I'm surprised you of all people, Pyras, are getting picky on this matter. Since Irys never used sonic beams on the ground, you have insisted he would in these fantasy fights. (Your reasons have already been noted, no need to bring them up now, but if you'd like, be my guest. ) Thus, I just explained my reasoning of why SG didn't against Moguera on Earth.

lol, but SG's issue makes alot less sense than Irys'. We only see SG use his telekinetic pulse thingamobobber in his flying crystal form, and only against MOGUERA. Why didn't he use it against Godzilla? Can he tell the difference between a machine and a monster? Would the pulse hurt Godzilla at all?

I'm not saying SG can't use his pulse within the earth's atmosphere, I just don't believe it's part of his arsenal when he has legs.

[Tomzilla]

Wonders if I should reply to both of Pyras' identical posts... ;)


PyrasTerran-

But what was it that caused him to use it against MOGUERA only and not Godzilla?

Maybe because SG's other weapons were proving effective? SG did try using other abilities, such as his telekinesis (gravity tornado) and that only paralyzed Godzilla for a short time. In other words, it wasn't a useful weapon. Might've given SG the hint to not waste energy on using new tactics, when the old ones were doing just fine.

Also, notice when SG was approaching Moguera on the pilot's screen? With SG's horn on his head glowing bright white? Who knows, maybe he was analyzing Moguera's structure, and knew such a weapon would be the best use. But then, alas, when Moguera returned, SG could've deemed it 'un-successful'. Same reason of why Irys didn't use the sonic beams any more against Gamera, right? ;)

Tactically, SG is underrated to a degree, but I can't deny that he is a moron when choosing the best of his abilities, especially ones that would work to his advantage.

lol, but SG's issue makes alot less sense than Irys'.

Really? I don't think so.

We only see SG use his telekinetic pulse thingamobobber in his flying crystal form, and only against MOGUERA.

We also see SG using his telekinesis in his flying form to pick up Little G, and succeeded in using it when he was in his land form. That and it is entirely possible he knew it would've only worked against Moguera. Either that, or it was dumb luck.

Why didn't he use it against Godzilla?

As I've said, his other abilities were doing a good job at pushing Godzilla to the edge. No need to abandon weapons proving effective, for one you've never used before against this specific enemy, and not even know the influence.

Can he tell the difference between a machine and a monster?

I'm sure he can, if he used it only against Moguera.

Would the pulse hurt Godzilla at all?

Can't say for sure, since he never used it against Godzilla. But if he did, I think it would; the telekinetic pulse is very similar to Godzilla's own in terms of damage. Both share an electromagnetic quality. (Such as when Godzilla used his pulse on KG and Mothra, it had a neural damage.)

I'm not saying SG can't use his pulse within the earth's atmosphere, I just don't believe it's part of his arsenal when he has legs.

Well, I might just concede to that. But I think it is possible, still. :)