DesGhidorah vs. Legion

[The Great MM]

DesGhidorah vs. Legion

Arena: Kyoto

Rules: Both are 100 meters

Who Will Win...

[anguirus55]

DG might just be big enough for Legion to score a direct hit. If so, he's history.

If not, the swarm and shield handle this problem.

[ghidorahsaurus]

Shield: Death Ghidorah’s tactic of “duh, shoot da ground, make big booms” is actually an advantage in this fight. He will be shooting under the shield and around Legions legs, knocking her off balance. If/when this happens, Death Ghidorah has the advantage, taking pot shots at the top of Legion’s head/body. Legion’s best bet would be to tunnel (which she probably would).

Swarm: Death Ghidorah has an effective energy pulse. He used it once to knock the stuffing out of momma Mothra (attacking his back) and another time to break out of kid Mothra’s webbing. Death Ghidorah has a good chance of frying the swarm.

In my (pro-DG-fanboy) opinion, Death Ghidorah has more of a chance in this fight than he is being given credit.

[Mecha-Megas]

Its hard to tell. I say Legion will win with his beam and the shield unless DG bombed him from the air (which I belive he is too stupid to do). The swarm prob isn't a concern for the mentioned energy plus and the fact that I think that if Mothra and Leo slashing attacks can't really hurt him than the swarm can't.

[MirrenDono]

I gotta go with Ghidorahsaurus on this

Legion's swarm is now worthless, and her shield probably can't block Hell's Flame or the fire fissures that Des can send at her. Basically all of his attacks this time can be used to their full potential, and when you let that happen, you're in deep s***

Yeah, I say DeathGhidorah

[anguirus55]

Hmm, good points being made. I revise my opinion. Unless Legion scores a direct hit, she'll probably lose.

[PyrasTerran]

Death Ghidorah’s tactic of “duh, shoot da ground, make big booms” is actually an advantage in this fight. He will be shooting under the shield and around Legions legs, knocking her off balance.

Legion isn't walking on stilts, her abdomen is planted to the ground and she has like 8 feet. It'd be difficult to impossible for the explosions to knock her off balance, especially if she has her wings to protect her from any fissures.


I don't see Death Ghidorah getting out of this one. He's big enough to be hit with an EM Beam and Legion is even more mobile than he is. In close range Legion can decimate him.

[ghidorahsaurus]

Legion isn't walking on stilts, her abdomen is planted to the ground and she has like 8 feet. It'd be difficult to impossible for the explosions to knock her off balance, especially if she has her wings to protect her from any fissures.Whether she has 4 feet or 8 feet or whatnot, if her legs and the ground she is standing on are being attacked, she is going to lose her balance. If it is her front legs and the ground her front legs are standing on that is being destroyed, she is going to either fall forward (opening the opportunity to attack her head/top of body) or she will rear up on her hind "legs," revealing the bottom of her body.

Plus, though she is more mobile than most give her credit, it is not like she attempted to side-step any of Gamera's fireballs or attacks. Once she was in position (directly facing her opponent), she stayed in that position.

[PyrasTerran]

Whether she has 4 feet or 8 feet or whatnot, if her legs and the ground she is standing on are being attacked, she is going to lose her balance.

Not necesarily. Her center of gravity is balanced and she is heavy enough that attacks from Death Ghidorah won't budge her. Since when did Death's attacks have so much kinetic force in them anyway??

If it is her front legs and the ground her front legs are standing on that is being destroyed, she is going to either fall forward (opening the opportunity to attack her head/top of body) or she will rear up on her hind "legs," revealing the bottom of her body.


or she could take to the skies.

Plus, though she is more mobile than most give her credit, it is not like she attempted to side-step any of Gamera's fireballs or attacks.Once she was in position (directly facing her opponent), she stayed in that position.

Gamera's fireballs were always neutralized. And Legion's EM shield actually tracks down the nearest attack and catches it. If you don't believe me, I can show you with pictures. The point is that the EM shield pretty much protects Legion's whole front, and quakes won't cause her to tip off balance. Death Ghidorah's own fireballs would likely attack Legion's frontside, and fall victim to her shield. And again, ground attacks aren't as crippling as you keep saying. This is a creature that knows the ground better than most, a creature that can dig at incredibly high speeds for such a large monster. That means not only are her legs powerful but they are sturdy enough to withstand Death's attacks to the ground(if he even attacks the ground).

[ghidorahsaurus]

Not necesarily. Her center of gravity is balanced and she is heavy enough that attacks from Death Ghidorah won't budge her.Death Ghidorah’s attacks may not destroy her legs, but there is a good chance they will move or budge them. The earth crumbling from underneath her, however, will force her to reposition herself, tunnel, or fly. While she is making this transition she is open for attack.

Since when did Death's attacks have so much kinetic force in them anyway??:p Hehe, I am not saying Death Ghidorah’s attacks are going to blow Legion’s legs to smithereens, but his tendency to shoot the ground all around his foe (similar to Showa MechaGodzilla) could work for him in this scenario. His attacks certainly do seem powerful enough to blow chunks in the ground.

or she could take to the skies.Death Ghidorah is certainly not the best flier, but I feel Legion gives up quite a bit once she goes airborne. As the picture/model at Toho Kingdom shows, the appendages that make up her shield “transform” to her belly/bottom, leaving her front and top open to attack. Her wings were destroyed from airplane missiles, meaning they are somewhat “delicate” compared to the rest of her body (trying hard not to say, “OMG!!111 MISSILZ KILLD HER11!11” :D ). Her atrocious aim (the one that keeps her from leveling all opponents this side of Majin and Armor Mothra – she could smoke almost anyone if it were not for this) could barely hit a wide, stationary, grounded target. She has little hope of hitting a target in the air while flying. I do not want to insinuate Death Ghidorah would pwn her if she tried to fight while flying, but it seems she would give up a number of her advantages/strengths if she did try.

Gamera's fireballs were always neutralized. And Legion's EM shield actually tracks down the nearest attack and catches it. If you don't believe me, I can show you with pictures. The point is that the EM shield pretty much protects Legion's whole front, and quakes won't cause her to tip off balance.:p Not to be a butt-head, but(t) I would love to see the pictures. :p It seemed to me Gamera simply fired a volley at her and she blocked them with the shield.

And again, ground attacks aren't as crippling as you keep saying. This is a creature that knows the ground better than most, a creature that can dig at incredibly high speeds for such a large monster. That means not only are her legs powerful but they are sturdy enough to withstand Death's attacks to the ground;) Meh, I do not see what knowing the ground/being an incredible digger has to do with keeping ones balance. Megalon also digs at amazing speeds, able to surprise attack his foes from the ground. Yet Megalon can be knocked down if you take out his legs or the ground beneath them.

(if he even attacks the ground).It is true I have been focusing on Death Ghidorah’s magma blobs striking the ground around Legion. He also has the ability to open a crevice and release the Pyre Road/Hell’s Flame/New Flava of Da Week. Against a flying foe, the result is fire, smoke, and hot stuff burning the belly. Against an opponent on the ground, the result would be falling - possibly into fire and magma and other bad, nasty, hot things. :)

[Gorjirus]

or she could take to the skies.

I am still not convinced that the flying Legion was in full adult form. The flying form was MUCH smaller than the full final battle Legion.

[Mecha-Megas]

Trust me the flame wall packs quite a punch, you'll see the land on either side of it move.

[PyrasTerran]

Godamnit.

I had a whole post package ready to roll.. and the $%&#ing thing craps out on me.

I'm too stressed at the moment to post it all over again so I'll just post this for now.

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The EM sheath around Legion closes in on one location and "catches" the incoming attack. The EM arms actually follow the ball until it gets close enough to hit and dispel.

[ghidorahsaurus]

I am still not convinced that the flying Legion was in full adult form. The flying form was MUCH smaller than the full final battle Legion.I think you are on to something Gorjirus. Not only would it explain the size difference, but also the damage she/her wings took from the missiles *. She may have been smaller and more fragile at that “early stage.”

* Still trying to avoid “OMG!11! MISSELZ BROK HRE!!11”

I had a whole post package ready to roll.. and the $%&#ing thing craps out on me.:( I hate that. The Internet/computers are our best friend until they decide to eat our work. ;)

I'm too stressed at the moment to post it all over again so I'll just post this for now.Sorry to hear that – I hope everything calms down for you.

The EM sheath around Legion closes in on one location and "catches" the incoming attack. The EM arms actually follow the ball until it gets close enough to hit and dispel.This makes sense and is very believable. At first I thought you meant the EM field would attract any incoming fire even **near** Legion’s front, making it impossible to bypass the shield in any way, shape, or form.

It looks like Legion would still be susceptible to attacks near her legs and feet. The pictures do prove, in spite of possibly being toppled over or losing her balance, almost the entirety of her head would be protected. Only an attack from behind would hit her “head region” cleanly.

[PyrasTerran]

This makes sense and is very believable. At first I thought you meant the EM field would attract any incoming fire even **near** Legion’s front, making it impossible to bypass the shield in any way, shape, or form.

One may be inclined to say that, since the plasma balls are coming in at an angle that is too high, one that would make Gamera 120 meters tall.

It looks like Legion would still be susceptible to attacks near her legs and feet. The pictures do prove, in spite of possibly being toppled over or losing her balance, almost the entirety of her head would be protected. Only an attack from behind would hit her “head region” cleanly.

The range of the sheath is actually much wider. Remember that Legion erected her shield to defend against the Mana Beam. It was protecting her entire front for the few seconds it was up. We know this because Legion's legs aren't destroyed until the end along with the rest of the body.