COUNTDOWN TO BLOODY DOUBLE: ALL OUT TEAM DESTRUCTION

[Shadow]

I've decided to create a fight to tide some of you over until the real fight begins. This fight takes place in an open, grassy field that has a few boulders placed around it. The fight will consist of all the decided teams, at this moment, and the "Freelance" characters. They will be listed below.

Here are the teams:

Shadow (alpha) and Gorjirus
Zearatul and Father Estaban Cortez
Neo-Crucifer and Darkside Reject
Seer235 and Monster Master
Henry Venetta and Angilas
PyrasTerran and BS Digital Q
Omega Bruce

Now the Freelancers:
Wiz
Dante
Morteki
God of PH
Sithre Reaper
Aragorn Strider22

Now here's the catch. Freelancers may team up with any of the other freelancers at any time in the battle, but not any of the set teams. Only two freelancers may team up at a time, and at any point can break their alliance and fight their former friend, FREELANCERS RUN THE CHANCE OF BEING BETRAYED AND ATTACKED MORE OFTEN THEN THE TEAMS.

(Freelancers can not declare a "set" partner during the discussion of this fight, but rather list possibilities)

GO FOR BROKE!

[Wiz]

Well, even though I'm partnered up with Morteki in the Tourney, I think I'll stay as a freelancer. I don't want to know how we might do in the tournament.

As for who would win....I'd say either Shadow and Gorjirus, or Pyras and BS, but I'll need to look at all their stats before I can say for sure.

[Shadow]

I would say that either my team, Omega Bruce, or Pyras and BS would win. OB would probably go after the freelancers first, and dispose of them quickly.

Then some of the oter teams would fall quickly, but I would say that any of those three would win.

[Morteki]

I suppose it might aid in deciding who will win this fight if I gave you my stats? Well, here they are:

Morteki
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 210 lbs

Fighting Style: Unknown

Affiliations: None suspected

Weapons: Can manipulate his body’s molecules to pass through energy blasts and change his form; limited psychic powers (can render foes unconscious or give them severe panic attacks)

Strength: 9
Speed: 7
Reflexes: 8
Intelligence: 9
Acrobatics: 7

Method of Attack: Morteki is a fierce, cold-blooded fighter who would settle for nothing less than spilling the blood of his enemies. His attack plan is unpredictable, and his ability to manipulate his molecules makes him truly threatening as such; however, it is known that he most enjoys morphing into his enemies and transforming his arms into weapons such as swords and guns. His psychic powers, while usually only effective on weaker foes, are also quite aggravating. However, Morteki does have weaknesses - extreme heat or extreme cold could potentially wreck his shape-shifting abilities, and he is not unusually fast or effective in air combat. Overall, though, Morteki is a powerful, intelligent foe that is best avoided by the weak.
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I hope this helps! :)

[Dante]

Considering that all of these fighters are in the arean at once, I'm going for the bloody pile of chunks bit.

It is going to be total chaos in this fight. Some of the freelancers may go down quickly, but the majority of us will just kill eah other.

[The Great MM]

Is there a full moon out?

[Bruticus]

Bloody puddles, everyone...except for Omega Bruce. In his case, he might just be limbless and slightly dead. :)

[PyrasTerran]

Pyras sneaks out the back... and opens up the ground, swallowing up the non-flying combatants. Then he gets in his VW bug and drives off into the sunset soas not to get caught by the flyers. :O

[godofPH]

PH sneaks away in Mach Speed. Ocasionally sneaks in and attacks in Bullet Time. continues process until one foe is left. Takes out last foe easily because foe will be weakened by battle.:p

[Seer235]

Pyras sneaks out the back... and opens up the ground, swallowing up the non-flying combatants. Then he gets in his VW bug and drives off into the sunset soas not to get caught by the flyers. :O

What? No! Opening up the ground is Seer's plan!

[Shadow]

Is there a full moon out?
I guess there can be one out, with these many fighters going at it, everyone's one is going to need to be at full power.

Actually, I think that the intelligence fighters would actually go after the stronger fighters first, and then pick off the weak ones later...

[The Great MM]

I guess there can be one out, with these many fighters going at it, everyone's one is going to need to be at full power.


Are any of the fighers fast enough to get out of the way of a beam the size and strength of the mana beam? If not...just about everyone is toast by my moon beam.

[Wiz]

^GodofPH might be able to, but other than that, I would agree. That moon beam would take out most everyone.

[MasteroftheSwarm]

I dunno, if they see how effective it is against one person, I'm fairly sure SOME people could be able to formulate a plan to counter it. I doubt it would take everyone out of the fight with one single use. If he uses it once, there probably will be people left to stop him from doing it again...

[godofPH]

If there is a full moon out, then it'll be down to PH and MM. PH will be able to senselessly dodge that beam, he can dodge anything in slowmo. Hell, he might even be able to dodge it in regular speed. But PH vs MM, I dunno what to vote on from there.

[Burkion]

Is it too late to sighn up SJJ?

[Neo-Crucifer]

Is it too late to sighn up SJJ?

For the Tournament? I believe you can still add SJJ to the roster.

[The Great MM]

If there is a full moon out, then it'll be down to PH and MM. PH will be able to senselessly dodge that beam, he can dodge anything in slowmo. Hell, he might even be able to dodge it in regular speed. But PH vs MM, I dunno what to vote on from there.

Hmm...

you go mach speed witch is the speed of sound correct? Now, my sonic howl screw up hearing, shatters glass, and makes your ear drums explode... So...how can you evade something that goes your speed, possibly faster because of the high pitch and loudness (I don't know about sound so I may be wrong). And also with that, Seer would also be by my side to send some lightning bolts down at ya...

Hmm...

[Gorjirus]

possibly faster because of the high pitch and loudness

Frequency or pitch does not change the speed of sound. Sound still travels at the speed of sound.

[Shadow]

That moon beam would take out most everyone.
That is, of course, until the fighters figure out that, "HEY! that guy is a major threat."

Hmmm...

[The Great MM]

That is, of course, until the fighters figure out that, "HEY! that guy is a major threat."

Hmmm...

By the time that happens Seer would have frozen their feet solid to the ground. And MM and Seer would be about many many many many yards away and just watch the huge yellow beam vaporize every thing it touches. Then of course, if the ice doesn't work, a nice storm of lightning strikes everywhere would, they couldn't move let alone see because of the flashes. And the ones who survive would still be blinded by the blast and eventually fall from the moon slash or sonic howl. Or Seer could just conjure up some sort of tornado or earth quake.

[PyrasTerran]

If the moon beam thing is just like the mana beam, then it's going to be large *and* slow. Most speedy opponents would be able to dodge it.

[The Great MM]

If the moon beam thing is just like the mana beam, then it's going to be large *and* slow. Most speedy opponents would be able to dodge it.

Not if Seer continues a storm of lightning blinding everyone or makes it rain and then increases the temperature so that the fighter's feets would be frozen down. Or split the ground and close it around their wastes...

[Neo-Crucifer]

Not if Seer continues a storm of lightning blinding everyone or makes it rain and then increases the temperature so that the fighter's feets would be frozen down. Or split the ground and close it around their wastes...

Pyras could always use his terrakenesis to drop MM into a huge trench as he tries the moon beam. Then it's a simple matter of closing said trench, and we have one dead werewolf...

[PyrasTerran]

Correct. When it comes to this all-out war, it's fighters like Seer and Pyras and Henry who are capable of attacking many many opponents at once who will come out on top.

[The Great MM]

Pyras could always use his terrakenesis to drop MM into a huge trench as he tries the moon beam. Then it's a simple matter of closing said trench, and we have one dead werewolf...

You think my parner would just watch? He also has control of Earth, meaning, he can also prevent it from closing AND zap Pyras with lightning a few hundred times.

Correct. When it comes to this all-out war, it's fighters like Seer and Pyras and Henry who are capable of attacking many many opponents at once who will come out on top.

Having a beam that can make Oni Blight crap his pants and incinerate dozens of people at once is attacking many many opponents at once. Throw in Seer, who can keep everyone in line and with a wall of lightning raining on everyone...you can say bye bye.

[Seer235]

Pyras could always use his terrakenesis to drop MM into a huge trench as he tries the moon beam. Then it's a simple matter of closing said trench, and we have one dead werewolf...

Seer also has the handy *open a big hole in the ground* ability. It's quite helpful. He can also shock beings with lightning and freeze them with ice, keeping them from dodging.

Correct. When it comes to this all-out war, it's fighters like Seer and Pyras and Henry who are capable of attacking many many opponents at once who will come out on top.

Thanks for including me in that list. With Pyras AND Hank, wow.

[PyrasTerran]

You think my parner would just watch? He also has control of Earth, meaning, he can also prevent it from closing AND zap Pyras with lightning a few hundred times.

Seer's better off trying with ice; since Pyras is earth-elemental-based, electric attacks aren't too effective.


But MM, you think the REST of the fighters are just going to watch? There's way too many opponents on the field and it's like 2 or 3 of them will attack Seer at once if he bothers to work his mojo in an attempt to keep the opponent occupied for your beam. And, your beam only shoots in one direction. As I had said, lots of opponents that are fast enough can dodge it.

Having a beam that can make Oni Blight crap his pants and incinerate dozens of people at once is attacking many many opponents at once. Throw in Seer, who can keep everyone in line and with a wall of lightning raining on everyone...you can say bye bye.

Unless of course you're sniped in the head by Zearatul or Cortez ;)

And this is also assuming Seer isn't busy with a BS or Angilas about to steamroll him.





You see, there are far too many factors that you're counting out. There are simply too many opponents for effective double-teaming in the turn-based strategy you're implying. While Seer is trying to conjure up a storm, what's stopping Gorjirus from bombarding him with attacks from behind? While MM is charging for a moonbeam, what is stopping from speeding to the side and freezing you? If Seer tries raining, what's to stop Dante from letting out firey attacks in every direction to cause a steam cloud that no one can see in?

[Seer235]

There's the fact that it isn't everyone vs. MM and Seer. In fact, the best strategy for those two is to fire the moon beam without anyone noticing that it is happening. Perhaps Seer could create a ring of fog around MM, to keep the other fighters from him seeing the moon beam charging up. Then MM could fire it into a group of the stronger fighters, assuming they are fighting each other, which they probably will be, and boom. There goes the big competition.

[godofPH]

When theres this many fighters, the logical thing to do would be to take out the largest threat first. Now when people see MM chargin' up some big ol' beam, they'll react. Now, I've come to believe that theres just too many people to really think of a winner. I'm changing my opinion to Many piles of bloody chunks and a few piles of scrap metal.

[The Great MM]

There's the fact that it isn't everyone vs. MM and Seer. In fact, the best strategy for those two is to fire the moon beam without anyone noticing that it is happening. Perhaps Seer could create a ring of fog around MM, to keep the other fighters from him seeing the moon beam charging up. Then MM could fire it into a group of the stronger fighters, assuming they are fighting each other, which they probably will be, and boom. There goes the big competition.


Or hell, make fog to blind everyone in it, then conjure up a huge storm, make about 1 foot or water, and then freeze it. Then at the same time surround us in it...and BOOM. A team such as myself and Seer is one of the deadliest teams that can be made (why do you think we like teaming?), with Seer's elemental control and my moon powers, we are almost unstopple. AND if any do get close, there is NOTHING stoping me from using the sonic howl to bring anyone to their knees and blow their ear drums, EXTREME PAIN.

[Gorjirus]

If they are covered in ice, it couldn't be that hard to break it. And what about the fighters that can fly? It shouldn't be to hard to fly above the beam, then blast the crap out of you while you are using it.

Also, Photon Cannon. Does anybody here know what pure photons do when fired?

[The Great MM]

If they are covered in ice, it couldn't be that hard to break it. And what about the fighters that can fly? It shouldn't be to hard to fly above the beam, then blast the crap out of you while you are using it.

Also, Photon Cannon. Does anybody here know what pure photons do when fired?

The ones that manage to fly out, Seer just zaps them with a couple bolts of electricity and such. And again, if Seer also shrouds us in fog, it's gonna make it even harder to find us.

And for braking ice, yes it would be easy, but not if more just keeps forming via the rain and high temps. Also you got to remember, in tournament III, Seer froze my hands to the ground, and I am a strength 9 character, the chances of even a 10 braking through Seer's ice is pretty low.

Hell, what if Seer makes an entire dome of ice around all of you? Like 3 feet thick and 30 feet high. Then you won't be going anywhere, and it's just gonna take the moon beam to brake through and boom.

[Gorjirus]

And again, if Seer also shrouds us in fog, it's gonna make it even harder to find us.


Now, would you be in the fog, or would we. As, either way, the fog would go both ways. It would make it harder for you to find us as well.

And for braking ice, yes it would be easy, but not if more just keeps forming via the rain and high temps

Sorry, but ice doesn't form in high temperatures.

Hell, what if Seer makes an entire dome of ice around all of you?

And how would he do that? Are you forgetting that some fighters (ahem, Dante) have fire attacks? Dante's 12,000 degree Devil Flame would melt that ice in nothing flat.

Then you won't be going anywhere, and it's just gonna take the moon beam to brake through and boom.


Unless we use our attacks to get out. If nothing else, Pyras could just lift the entire area to save himself (and the rest inadvertently).

[Bruticus]

Also you got to remember, in tournament III, Seer froze my hands to the ground, and I am a strength 9 character, the chances of even a 10 braking through Seer's ice is pretty low.

I'm gonna have to call you on this one, MM. Remember, what happens in tournament canon isn't 100% true for what happens in the true RF storyline. If you need an example, in T3's storyline it was said that Husnock had actually cracked Gorjirus' armour. But that doesn't hold water in 'reality,' as Husnock would probably never be able to break Gojirian alloy anywhere near as easily. You see where I'm going with this?

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I think that just about everyone so far has underestimated one vital character: Omega Bruce. I'll try not to sound biased in my reasoning for this choice.

First, you need to consider just how much punishment Omega Bruce can take. Remember that this is a warrior who took Oni Blight's EM beam at point-blank range, and came out of the explosion alive (not necessarily in one piece, but alive). MM makes a good point with the Moon Beam, which is indeed more powerful than OB's blast, but I believe it has a charge time long enough for Bruce to take notice and haul butt out of the way. That doesn't factor in circumstances such as distraction, though, so don't take my word for it. And I'm getting this funny feeling that if Omega Bruce were to take the hit of the Moon Beam, he might still leave a reasonable carcass behind...

So if Oni Blight's EM blast didn't bring Bruce close to death, even at point-blank, then what about weather conditions that Seer and Alpha Shadow might summon up? OK, so a tornado might make him feel kinda dizzy and sick for a while. And lightning is not too fun to get hit by no matter who you are. But things like hail (no matter how thick and strong), torrential rains, and earthquakes (which he can evade anyway) probably would not do enough to Bruce to thwart him from whatever he was set to do.

"But DEP," you ask, "what about Omega Bruce's lack of ranged weapons? Most of his enemies have one!" Sure, that's a valid point. But when he gets in close, you'll realize why he should never need a ranged weapon. He threw a mutating Orga_99 out of London from the heart of the city with sheer brute strength alone. His grip can superheat objects and cause them to melt, which he also did to poor Orga. Explosions are the worst attack effects you could have when attacking Bruce, as he uses flames to regenerate and "feed" his attacks.

I honestly don't know what more to say at this point. He's certainly smart enough, his strength makes BS Digital Q shake in his boots (or lack thereof), his durability is simply hellish, and speedy characters simply do not have enough at their disposal to make the difference. I'll type more later if I can think of anything, but for the moment I've presented my case well enough, IMO.

[The Great MM]

Now, would you be in the fog, or would we. As, either way, the fog would go both ways. It would make it harder for you to find us as well.


Could be both, I'd have to see if Seer actually has some way to pick you guys out.

Sorry, but ice doesn't form in high temperatures

Stupid lack of caffine...meant low temps :p

And how would he do that? Are you forgetting that some fighters (ahem, Dante) have fire attacks? Dante's 12,000 degree Devil Flame would melt that ice in nothing flat.

Would still take a couple good seconds, enough time for me to charge and fire.

Unless we use our attacks to get out. If nothing else, Pyras could just lift the entire area to save himself (and the rest inadvertently).

Needs to think or will let Seer comment... Can Pyras just lift it like a feather or would it take like 2 or 3 seconds (enough time for me to charge and fire).

[Trauma]

Well Sithre hasn't been mentioned...for good reason, he isn't even a variable...But maybe he will just waite in the shadows...

[Gorjirus]

ould still take a couple good seconds, enough time for me to charge and fire.


I would take less than that. Were talking 12,000 degrees. That is pretty much instant melt, and everyone else will be trying to break it as well.

I think that just about everyone so far has underestimated one vital character: Omega Bruce. I'll try not to sound biased in my reasoning for this choice.

First, you need to consider just how much punishment Omega Bruce can take. Remember that this is a warrior who took Oni Blight's EM beam at point-blank range, and came out of the explosion alive (not necessarily in one piece, but alive). MM makes a good point with the Moon Beam, which is indeed more powerful than OB's blast, but I believe it has a charge time long enough for Bruce to take notice and haul butt out of the way. That doesn't factor in circumstances such as distraction, though, so don't take my word for it. And I'm getting this funny feeling that if Omega Bruce were to take the hit of the Moon Beam, he might still leave a reasonable carcass behind...

So if Oni Blight's EM blast didn't bring Bruce close to death, even at point-blank, then what about weather conditions that Seer and Alpha Shadow might summon up? OK, so a tornado might make him feel kinda dizzy and sick for a while. And lightning is not too fun to get hit by no matter who you are. But things like hail (no matter how thick and strong), torrential rains, and earthquakes (which he can evade anyway) probably would not do enough to Bruce to thwart him from whatever he was set to do.

"But DEP," you ask, "what about Omega Bruce's lack of ranged weapons? Most of his enemies have one!" Sure, that's a valid point. But when he gets in close, you'll realize why he should never need a ranged weapon. He threw a mutating Orga_99 out of London from the heart of the city with sheer brute strength alone. His grip can superheat objects and cause them to melt, which he also did to poor Orga. Explosions are the worst attack effects you could have when attacking Bruce, as he uses flames to regenerate and "feed" his attacks.

I honestly don't know what more to say at this point. He's certainly smart enough, his strength makes BS Digital Q shake in his boots (or lack thereof), his durability is simply hellish, and speedy characters simply do not have enough at their disposal to make the difference. I'll type more later if I can think of anything, but for the moment I've presented my case well enough, IMO.


That is true. He has been overlooked. But could he survive the earth attacks that Pyras could trow at him? He would still need oxygen, and being buried alive would be something to see; Pyras' brain to Bruce's brawn.

[Aragorn_Strider22]

Well Sithre hasn't been mentioned...for good reason, he isn't even a variable...But maybe he will just waite in the shadows...

Yeah, Aragorn too has your problem. Although, if anyone needs a Samurai with a sword that can pierce through nearly anything, the ability to vomit out poisonous fumes, and the capability of teleportation, then they know who to look for in a temporary ally.


:barugon:

[Trauma]

Well my main problem is everyone takes his tactic literally, when It means he isn't going to just let you rest, he will strike alot, back away if it isn't working but he isn't just gonna keep ramming and ramming....


Wanna be an ally in this dude?

[Aragorn_Strider22]

Not like it matters, lol, but sure.

:barugon:

[Orga777]

I had to vote everyone turns into bloody chunks. There is so much going on in one area it will cause a lot of people to die. Sooo yea... bloody chunks.:darklord:

[PyrasTerran]

This tournament has no connection to the past ones, so there's no chance of Pyras and Bruce holding off from each other until they are the only ones left ;)

[Seer235]

Well, there are really too many variables to really be sure of a winner in this match. The only thing we can be sure of is at the end there will be quite a large pile of body parts and rivers of blood flowing through the battlefield.

[Zearatul]

I'm going to go with my team on this.
But I'm not sure wether or not Cortez will survive... Why?
Zearatul will see he's overwhelmed, his AI will make him cast Naryu's Love by default, allowing him to be invincible for at least 10 seconds (forget the exact time...) In which the rest of the fighters blow the **** out of eachother. Now who does that leave? ;) of course, if anyone survives a quick stabbing motion will do the trick... :darklord: