Imagine continuing the Heisei Gamera series.

[Darth Reaper]

Okay, there's talk that Daiei might make a new Gamera movie and that it will continue the Heisei series. I challenge the members of this forum to come up with their own ideas about how to continue the Heisei Gamera series if it were up to you to do it. What stories would you like to tell, what old monsters would you bring back, would you create new ones, what order would the appear in, etc.?

Now, I know that there are those who feel that the Heisei series should be left the way it is, and a new series should be started. But, I'm asking you to give this a chance and play along. You know you want to. :D

I have a few ideas of my own but I'm going to wait alittle while and see what others contribute before I contribute ideas of my own.

So, let's what you've got guys. Talk to me.

[Saruman]

Well first I wouldn't continue it, the ending is perfect the way it is. What I would do is fill in the gaps between the movies.

My first choice would be to use the Gamera vs Barugon manga that takes place between G1 & G2 and turn that into a movie.

After that I would fill in the Gap between G2 & G3 with a Gamera vs Jiger film.

Barugon & Jiger are really the only 2 Showa kaiju that I would like to see redone from the Gamera series.

Other than that I would explore telling stories set in the distant past so that we can see exactly how Gamera was created and what opponents besides Gyaos that he fought back then. I think that would be a much more refreshing idea then continuing the story arc past G3. And it allows you to play around with things such as Gameras design and how the early prototypes weren't as good as the we got in the Heisei series.

[kent]

Personally I think they should extend the Heisei series of films. The ending to 3 was good, but not by finishing the whole story, it will continue to make you wonder what would have happened. Plus I think not finishing a story can hurt it. There needs to be a climax whether good or evil wins. I would have made no more than one more film in the series because films that are in a long continuity can sometimes just be bad and dilute the entire story.

[Darth Reaper]

Hey Saruman, tell me about this GAMERA VS. BARUGON manga that you mentioned. I've never seen it. What's the story?

[darthzilla99]

Personally I think they should extend the Heisei series of films. The ending to 3 was good, but not by finishing the whole story, it will continue to make you wonder what would have happened. Plus I think not finishing a story can hurt it. There needs to be a climax whether good or evil wins. I would have made no more than one more film in the series because films that are in a long continuity can sometimes just be bad and dilute the entire story.

Thats what I have been saying all along. Make one last movie to conclude the story and then start a new serise. I hate were you read a book that has it were the hero is going to have a huge final battle and then the last chapter is torn out and you don't know whats going to happen. Thats how it feels for me in G3. If they do conclude the story, I will be very happy. I am sarroy for those that say "don't ruin the awsome cliff hanger" but I want to know how it ends. I want to read the final chapter. Know what I mean?

[Archaic_Avenger]

with a name like Incomplete Struggle, you could guess there was going to be a cliff hanger ending. now to end it.

if you want a way for Gamera to defeat the Gyaos swarm, my idea is a specific new power derived from the huge Mana surge he got, that is basically a Mana spray shot. he lures the swarm in one place, and blasts them with his new weapon, clearing the entire swarm. now some new monster is coming, though, and he must face it.

or, if you want the swarm to be the movie, you could drag out that ending, minus the new monster. but if you wanted to make it a "he sacrificed himself to save us all" kinda movie, it could show him fighting for all he's worth, but finally dieing in the end against the swarm. problem for movie makers is that would end the franchise, unless they went all Narnia and ressurected him somehow, through the love of that psychic girl. maybe. hey, even as much as i hate Gamera, i'd rather see them ressurect him than leave him dead.

now, for something completely different, i had an idea that encorporated the first ending (with the mana spray shot) that led to a Gamera vs. Godzilla. now, my story had a definatively hero Godzilla, so that might have to be changed to make it more like Godzilla less end Showa, for all those people who dont want Godzilla as a hero. so, i'm giving you the changed version. here goes.

using the Spray shot, Gamera wipes out most of the swarm once its arrived in one place. however, one of the last surviving Gyaos is able to kinda leech into his weakened state, and as the monster dies, it kinda implants his thoughts and consious into Gamera. an infection grows, causing Gamera to go on a rampage, but flees from Tokyo before he can do much damage. while healing on the ocean floor, his little psychic friend finds out that this infection actually started during his encounter with the first Gyaos, when his bit off the thing's leg, and has been growing since. that was why he was so desturction happy in G3. meanwhile, Godzilla has risen from the depths of the Pacific for the first time since he was reborn in 1995. in 1995, when the original Godzilla melted down, his son was revived. but in being revived through his fahter's death, this new Godzilla is more of a cross between the two personalities of both Godzilla's. strong as the original, but with more of a heart like his son, the original lives on in his son. now, though, he rises with something else on his mind. desturbed by the growing evil coming from Gamera's infection, the part of Jr wants to save the earth from the impending doom from Gamera. while his father's side also wants to fight Gamera, for reasons moreso of respect and title, both would have mutual benifit, and thus the challenge is given. Miki Saegusa has come as well, sensing the danger that Godzilla could cause to Tokyo and Japan during this battle. she teams up with the psycich Gamera girl as well, to try and stop the battle. while Gamera rests in a underwater volcano, he begins to receive power beyond before, and now rises stronger than ever. his psychich now hardly recognizes him, because of the evil grown from his infection. his plan is to use the spray shot to destroy Tokyo utterly, but with the new power to back it, he would destroy a much larger range. with help from some scientists, Miki and the other psychic have developed a serum derived from Anguirus (for hardiness) that will cure the infection, and turn Gamera completely guardian again. but the military wont hear of it. they now have a new weapon, designed to obliterate a small controlled area, and plan to use it to irradicate Gamera and Godzilla as they fight. by now the two said monsters have gathered in Tokyo, and have begun the struggle. with as much power as Gamera has, he still must wait a bit before he can use his spra shot. Miki and the other psychic realize they must take matters into their own hands, if Godzilla, Gamera, and even Tokyo are to be saved. commandeering an attack helicopter, they plant the serum into a missile, and fly to Tokyo to deliver it to Gamera. they're on a deadline. they must turn Gamera before he levels Tokyo, and before the military levels him! with Godzilla in the fray, they must also be careful to only his Gamera, and they can only hit him on his limbs to get past his shell, making the target much harder. with this premise, the battle is drawn, but who will win?!

Rodan2000

[Darth Reaper]

I still think that they should have Gamera deal with the Gyaos swarm by first consuming some fire to reenergize himself and repair his wounds, then going into his flaming flying saucer form and using his body like a living buzz saw to slash and burn his way through his enemies' ranks.

In addition, a large fleet of fighter jets could come to fight by Gamera's side. Perhaps it could be a coalition of fighters from different countries that have responded to Japan's call for help.

Some people have complained about Gamera always pulling new powers out of nowhere in order to deal with new situations. And, I think they've complained about him being too powerful (thanks to the mana beam). So, instead of giving Gamera some new super power, why not have him use one of the powers that he's already demonstrated in a creative way?

[Archaic_Avenger]

well, my idea of pulling a new power does go along with his nature, doesn't it? :D

Rodan2000

[Kiryu goji]

I think its time to revive an old foe for the movie in addition to Gyaos. I vote Jaiger. Maybe the Gyaos are the main threat while Jaiger is on the side. Or maybe vise versa.

[Goji Son]

Actually the ending had a lot of closure in it, atleast for me. With the JSDF now pointing their missles at the Gyaos and Gamera still alive to defend the world. It was perfectly fitting for the series and just because it doesn't show that doesn't mean we need to see what happens it already perfectly implied what is going to happen. The whole point of the story in all three films was to gain trust in Gamera thus become closer to Earth and unite against the imposing evil that threatens to destroy life.

To extend the ending would only cheapen it or so I feel. Why does it need to be spelled out for everyone what is obviously going to happen, what none of you have an imagination? I guess it's the difference in countries and filmmaking techniques and of course storytelling. Many Japanese films have very open ended endings to them that makes the audience think and while there is closure for the characters certain aspects never come to light because their importance is either symbolic or just a plot point to serve towards the characters story.

Gamera 3 was a character driven story and once they were all resolved thus the film is resolved and there is no point in continuing it. You know Gamera is going to fight, you know that the humans are on his side now, thus the whole point is finished and the film is done. The End.

[Gothmog]

Actually the ending had a lot of closure in it, atleast for me. With the JSDF now pointing their missles at the Gyaos and Gamera still alive to defend the world. It was perfectly fitting for the series and just because it doesn't show that doesn't mean we need to see what happens it already perfectly implied what is going to happen. The whole point of the story in all three films was to gain trust in Gamera thus become closer to Earth and unite against the imposing evil that threatens to destroy life.

To extend the ending would only cheapen it or so I feel. Why does it need to be spelled out for everyone what is obviously going to happen, what none of you have an imagination? I guess it's the difference in countries and filmmaking techniques and of course storytelling. Many Japanese films have very open ended endings to them that makes the audience think and while there is closure for the characters certain aspects never come to light because their importance is either symbolic or just a plot point to serve towards the characters story.

Gamera 3 was a character driven story and once they were all resolved thus the film is resolved and there is no point in continuing it. You know Gamera is going to fight, you know that the humans are on his side now, thus the whole point is finished and the film is done. The End.
Amen to that.
Continuing the Gamera Trilogy is blasphemy to me. I settle for that unofficial fan film Gamera 4, but nothing else. Like Goji Son said, you don't have to have everything spelled out for you.

[Cole Deschain]

I'm actually with the crowd on this one... the ending we got was fine.

[Darth Reaper]

I think people are forgetting the point of this thread. I'm well aware that some of you feel that the Heisei Gamera series should end with GAMERA 3, but I'm asking you what you would do if it were up to you to continue the series. If it was going to happen, and it were up to you to spearhead it, what would you do? Saying, "I don't think the series should continue" isn't an option for this particular thread.

If you're really not interested in even concidering the possibilty of continuing the series in any way, then you don't need to respond to this thread. I'll be disappointed that you're not participating, but I'll just have to live with that. But, if you're going to respond, then please play along with the topic, okay?

Why does it need to be spelled out for everyone what is obviously going to happen, what none of you have an imagination?- Goji Son

My imagination is just fine, but I can't help but feel that it isn't valid. I can imagine a hundred different ways to resolve the cliffhanger to G3, but none of them really matter because none of them are actually going to happen.

Besides, I like the world that Kaneko and company created with the Heisei Gamera series, and I like their take on Gamera. That's why I want the series to continue. I want to see how the world continues to evolve.

Imagine if Clint were to stop writing New Era stories before exploring all of the ideas that he's presented. Wouldn't that be tragic?

[Cole Deschain]

As many ideas as Clint has, we'll all be old and gray long before they all see paper.

The same is not true with G3.

Either Gamera surives the Gyaos assault, or he doesn't.
Either humanity survives the Gyaos assault, or it doesn't.

From there, the boundaries are limitless, and therein lies the peril.

[HolyGoji777]

i think the ending we got was great......it was conslusive and it was very powerful. i think doing it any other way would tarnish it. id be afraid of a new heisei film because it may just ruin one of the best series ever.

[ryan2]

Well, you have a baby Gamera, he grows up, and fights some Gyaos. I'd really like to see all of the original monsters brought back and modified, i.e make them taller, stronger, and thicker. For example, Zigra looks really wierd with just the cylindar body(that's what it looks like to me, atleast), so I would deafinatly make him buff and add some other stuff to him while still trying to keep him the way he originaly was -- a mutated shark.

I would also bring back Guron(I used to always call him the "Shark Guy"), concidering he was always one of my favorite villians, except add a few things to him to make him look "cooler." i.e, I would add some small spikes to him, looking at the fact that he seems to be a spike monster with the shuriken and the knife nose.