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Steve
June 16th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Time now for a different sort of Kaiju battle! Here are the contestants:

Fairy Mothra (Rebirth of Mothra 1 version)

Garugaru (Rebirth of Mothra 1 version)

Minya (Godzilla's Revenge version)

Jet Jaguar (Regular sized)

Kamacuras (Pre-mutation form)


The conditions are as follows: Minya must stay shrunken at three feet (presumably Ichiro's size.) Jet Jaguar isn't allowed to grow to Godzilla size; he must stay at his normal size, about six feet. Kamacuras hasn't mutated, so it's only about five feet long. Garugaru and Fairy Mothra are still the same size, and just for fun, we'll say Mona, Lora and Belvera are with 'em. The battle will take place... umm... somewhere open. Let's say... a big empty field. With a couple od large boulders scattered about, and maybe some fallen logs. The battle is free-for-all style: every Kaiju for itself.

Right. Mini-Minya, not-mutated Kamacuras, Mini-Jet Jaguar, Fairy Mothra, and Garugaru. Who will emerge victorious in this clash of the not-so-giants?

Showa Godzilla
June 16th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Unless Mini Minya can use his atomic breath like in Son of Godzilla, Jet Jaguar would win this.Minyas smoke rings could probably take out garugaru and fairy Mothra, and Jet Jaguar could beat The Kamacuras and minya up.

EternalMothra
June 16th, 2005, 11:03 PM
I don't know if Jet Jaguar would win. If Fairy Mothra, or Garugaru's beams hit the machine, it could damage his circuits. Minya may put up a slight fight, but I doubt that he can defeat the two steeds. Kamacarus would put up the best fight, but with their beams, the two fairy like creatures would eventually defeat him.

Remember, Fairy and Garugaru are quick and they have the Elias urging them on. They both obey them, and they can follow their instructions as well. Also they have their beams which would cause some signifigant damage.

At the end, I would say it would be a tie between Fairy and Garugaru. The only reason that Fairy lost in ROM was because she flew right into Garugaru's ray to protect the humans.

Burkion
June 16th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Hello, they are the size of very small birds! All Jet Jaguar has to do is squash 'em. Now if they were as big as teh rest of these guys, then yes I'd give it to 'em. But, they are infact REALLY small, and able to be squished.

EternalMothra
June 16th, 2005, 11:18 PM
They are small enough to fly circles around Jet Jaguar which gives them the advantage because Jet Jaguar is somewhat slow.

Burkion
June 16th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Actually, Jet Jaguar is a little bit above average in speed. The only time he is slow is when he is given an order, and that takes a moment to process. After he 'gets the order to fight' he will do what ever is nesseceary. And do you really belive that Fairy Mothera's beams are as strong as Megalons?

EternalMothra
June 17th, 2005, 12:39 AM
They could be. I'm sure they'll do some damage. They could cause his instruments to go haywire or something like that. Jet Jaguar is not indestructible. I know it's hard to believe that a tiny mythical butterfly could do that, but it shouldn't be underestimated.

Burkion
June 17th, 2005, 12:46 AM
But that's just it: IT IS A BUTTERFLY! Now, I'm not saying thats bad or nothin, but lets look at the facts here people, Jet Jaguar is at least 6feet tall. Fairy Mothera? I think a few centameters. ONE swipe and its all over. (And incase you didn't notice, there are no holes in JJ's armor for the bug to fly into and damage his circuts. Well, his mouth things, but those really don't matter as they are too narrow.) It's going to be, basically, a ultra strong human VS a stinging moth. Oh, and said human has body armor just about everywhere. Guess who wins? Now Fiary Mothera vs Minya...that would go to FM...

EternalMothra
June 17th, 2005, 12:51 AM
He may have body armor, but FM has her quickness. I have to admit Jet Jaguar can win this, but FM can too. All she has to do is shoot her lasers through his mouth hole things, and it could cause internal damage to Jet Jaguar's circuits.

Burkion
June 17th, 2005, 12:55 AM
To do that she has to be infront of him. BAD IDEA.

Now moving on...I figer the Kamacuras would fall pretty quickly to Jet Jaguar's kung foo skills, like they did to Godzilla(Who wasn't nearly as good as JJ is at that time.) As for Garugaru, look I *LIKE* this guy, but he's probally going to do the same thing his sister(? What relation DOSE he have to Fairy Mothera?) did and try and blast JJ's mouth...which might I add, the things are so narrow THE BEAMS WON'T GET THROUGH.

EternalMothra
June 17th, 2005, 12:59 AM
I don't know what relation Fairy and Garugaru have, Belvera created Garugaru, and Mothra created Fairy.

Anyway......

If Fairy Mothra is too close when she's in front of him, then she'd be swatted away or severally injured. However, if she is at a safe distance she can use her beams. The cracks in JJ's mouth are narrow, but some energy is bound to get through because Fairy's beams are quite small them selves, but they proved to be quite powerful in the ROM trilogy.

Burkion
June 17th, 2005, 01:02 AM
You're running on the upsuption that it's just going to be Fairy Mothera and Jet Jaguar fighting. What if Garugaru decides to take a cheap shot and blasts Fairy Mothera, only to get swated himself? Here is where it gets interesting: The fact that it's not just two monsters fighting, adds alot of crap that could go wrong.

EternalMothra
June 17th, 2005, 01:31 PM
O yeah, I forgot about that, you have a point there.

Steve
June 18th, 2005, 01:07 PM
I'd have to throw in my vote for Garugaru. For something so small, he's incredibly powerful. He was able to slice a rather thick piano leg with his wing, throw a coffee table up into the air, as well as lift the combined weight of Taiki and his mother high into the air, then drag them around the house. He can take a fair beating as well; he crashed pretty hard into the wall at the end of the Goto family's hallway (hard enough to make a rather sizeable dent), and shake it off pretty much unscathed. His purple energy beam seems to pack a reasonable wallop too.

Also keep in mind that Belvera's along for the ride too, and she's cunning, and ruthless. She'll likely use cheap, dirty, underhanded tactics in order to win. Not to mention she has mind controlling powers; she could likely take control of one of the other combatants (like, say, maybe Kamacuras, as I'd rate it as being the least intelligent monster in the battle) and use 'em as cannonfodder.

I'd say that Garugaru's speed and agility, combined with his impressive physical strength, and Belvera's ruthlessness and mind control powers, will lend them victory in this battle.

EternalMothra
June 18th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Don't forget, Fairy has the tactics of Moll and Lora on her side, also she bears some of the strengths that Garugaru posesses. She flew right through a glass window, she was able to dodge Garugaru's beams multiple times. Moll and Lora also have mental powers, and with Moll's wisdom, they may be able to win because she's intelligent and intuitive.

Seer235
June 18th, 2005, 07:37 PM
Fairy Mothra and Garugaru fight each other and kill each other. Meanwhile, Jet Jaguar beats up Minya, but gets arrested for child abuse. Kamacuras, who has gotten distracted by a (hopefully) edible object, is the winner by default.

But seriously, Jet Jaguar wins. It goes as above, except JJ doesn't get arrested (the cops fear him), then proceeds to kill Kamacuras and punt any fairy that has survived the FM/Garu battle.

biochemitra
June 21st, 2005, 02:54 PM
JJ would probably assume the larger ones were the bigger theat and take them out early on. Garu garu, I agree with steve, the mini dragon is incredibly tough, strong and his beam, while it varies in intensity, can pack a WHALLOP when he wants it to. That beam could probably slice through JJ's armor easily. Him and fairy could take him out. Fairy is pretty tough too, as she took GG's beam and survived(barely but GG was aiming to kill and when he aims to kill that beam does just that.) JJ may have kung fu but that will not be enough to beat the mini-monsters. And thats assuming minya's tail didn't get smashed and he nukes JJ. Kamecuras may even be able to beat minya as, although his blades didn't peirce his hide, the bug still smacked him around quite a bit. Garu garu could take out any one of the man sized creatures, regardless of who wins. I leave it to a tie between fairy and garu garu.

Burkion
June 21st, 2005, 10:18 PM
Now you are SERIOUSLY underating Jet Jaguar's armor. There is no way GG's beam is as strong as Megalon's, and there is no way he will perice something Gigan couldn't. Remeber Gigan? You know, the flying chicken that could SLICE open Godzilla's shoulder? Ring a bell? He didn't even perice JJ's armor. Besides that, have you ever seen a man and a moth fight? I half hartedly slaped the moth and it crashed into the ground and did not get back up. Mind you these are bigger then average moths, but not THAT much bigger. And considering that Jet Jaguar IS a robot, his slap(Or punch) will be ALOT stronger then anything I could muster. And again, I didn't try. Now if Fairy Mothera and Garu were larger, then I'd give the fight to them. BUT they're not.


Oh, and JJ's going to know that what ever shoots beams is a BIG threat, so yeah, he's going after one of them first. Then there's the whole, 'What if another one takes a cheap shot and blats so and so out of the air, only to get swatted by JJ' thing I brought up.

ghidorahsaurus
June 22nd, 2005, 07:25 AM
This is an interesting battle - thanks Steve. :thumbs:

In my opinion, the entire outcome revolves around how involved Mona, Lora, and Belvera are in the fight. If they become mere spectators cheering on their respective "beast," I can see Jet Jaguar punching and kicking his way to victory. However, if the "girls" take matters into their own hands, they very well could turn the tide of battle in favor of Fairy Mothra or Garugaru.

Since the topic/fight creator has used Belvera when describing why Garugaru will win, it seems Mona, Lora, and Belvera are doing more than hooting and hollering! :sly: With that in mind, my early vote goes to Garugaru. As others have stated, Belvera is not above dirty little tricks in order to acheive victory.

biochemitra
June 22nd, 2005, 12:23 PM
Now you are SERIOUSLY underating Jet Jaguar's armor. There is no way GG's beam is as strong as Megalon's, and there is no way he will perice something Gigan couldn't. Remeber Gigan? You know, the flying chicken that could SLICE open Godzilla's shoulder? Ring a bell? He didn't even perice JJ's armor. Besides that, have you ever seen a man and a moth fight? I half hartedly slaped the moth and it crashed into the ground and did not get back up. Mind you these are bigger then average moths, but not THAT much bigger. And considering that Jet Jaguar IS a robot, his slap(Or punch) will be ALOT stronger then anything I could muster. And again, I didn't try. Now if Fairy Mothera and Garu were larger, then I'd give the fight to them. BUT they're not.

No, your underating GG's beam. That thing was able to shred through a bulldozer. Ok, it hit a gas can or something but it was able to shred through the metal to get to the gas instantly. That beam is easily stronger than a mini-megalon's. JJ was knocked around by just M and G's claws. Whether it pierces JJ's armor or not, it will wreak massive damage inside. JJ wasn't built with armor, He may be metal but It probably wouldn't be much thicker than that gas can. He wouldn't explode but he would easily be defated by garugaru's beam. Remember how tough that thing is? If his beam didn't kill JJ and thats a big if, the garugaru could just get physical. JJ may have martial arts but garugaru has shown enough durability to withstand it quite nicely. Was it not a kaiju beam that brought him down at first? (No really, was it? I dont remember.) With minya I think fairy may try to defend him and get defeated by garugaru. Gigan didn't cut open JJ because the special effects wouldn't allow it. I know you all don't like to acknowledge character sheilding and effects flaws in a movie but if you don't then there is no way you could determine a creature's power. The fact is, gigan probably DID lacerate JJ but, as you may notice, megalon and gigan tossed him around like a rag doll. The things played VOLLEYBALL with him!! JJ was evenly matched with megalon, And garugaru's beam, reletive to his size, Is considerably more powerful than Megalon's and his physical power is at least as great too. Add his size and agility and I doubt JJ stands a chance.

I made up my mind, garugaru wins this one.

Edit: Please refrain from calling gigan a chicken. Thank you.

Steve
June 22nd, 2005, 06:33 PM
It was a direct hit from Mothra Leo's forehead beam that eventually took Garugaru out... a bit overkill-y, considering Mothra's immense size, but even then, the shot didn't compleley destroy Garugaru; it only caused him to crash. It left a gaping hole in his side, but he didn't explode into a million pieces and Belvera was fine. I think it's definately saying something about Gary's durability that he can be blasted by such a far larger/more powerful Kaiju and come out of it the way he did. There was enough of him left over to re-build, after all...