DESTOROYAH HAS REGENERATION!!!

[Keizer Godzilla (OPG)]

Go to http://gojistomp.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2749 and see what im talking about.It's amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me if you ever heard this.

[Gothmog]

<font color='#FF0000'>Well, that`s pretty basic knowledge about Destoroyah.
I doubt he would like to keep such big wounds when he re-arranged his molecules together again.

[Desu-Goji]

Anybody who has seen GvsD knows that Destroyah can reform anew.

By the way, its not amazing that Destroyah can regenerate, because Godzilla, Biollante, Spacegodzilla and Orga can as well.

[Keizer Godzilla (OPG)]

I never knew that he could regenerate until I watched the film about five times in one day.

[Project Pimp]

But everyones knows Destoroyah is made up of billions of microorganisms... of course it can reform. It did it like how many times in the movie? :-/

[Desu-Goji]

I dont think its a really a good idea to use fire on Destroyah, because if you watch GvsD, the scene where a Crab Destroyah was set on fire, i think it was releasing Micro Organisms (thats the liquid that was dripping out) thats how another pack of Crab Destroyah's reappeared.

[spydrmanjr]

Depends on how much you incinerate in that time. If you incinerate it all then no need to worry.

[Desu-Goji]

That makes sense, i agree with u 100% http://www.rodansroost.com/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kent]

I knew it was there, but never paid much attention to it. It happens a lot in the Godzilla series with other monsters. Just careless movie making basically. Like Junior, Destoroyah put a big gaping hole in his neck and the next few scenes we see him in, he doesn't have it, and then he does have it, but it is closer to his chest than his head which is where the wound was made.
Just careless movie making by the production crew most of the time. Toho tends to forget what happens in between scenes sometimes. Nonetheless, an interesting observation. But here is my question: When Godzilla killed one of those smaller Destoroyah's shouldn't there have been a gaping hole in Destoroyah since he lost part of himself? That to me has puzzled me for the longest time. It doesn't make sense and I don't buy into this rearranging molecules for Destoroyah. Even if he did, he still would have part of himself missing with that one aggregate Destoroyah killed.

[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (kent @ Mar. 24 2004,00:06)]But here is my question: When Godzilla killed one of those smaller Destoroyah's shouldn't there have been a gaping hole in Destoroyah since he lost part of himself? That to me has puzzled me for the longest time. It doesn't make sense and I don't buy into this rearranging molecules for Destoroyah. Even if he did, he still would have part of himself missing with that one aggregate Destoroyah killed.
Destroyah doesnt regenerate. Hes a composite creature made up of many many microscopic creatures. When his body takes enough damage he breaks down into smaller forms, he can then reform into his final form and it appears that he has taken no damage. It depends on how many of his composite creatures are destroyed before you would actually notice it physically. The reason for this is when he reforms, the creatures could distribute themselves differently to form the Final form, it might just happen that his tail is a little shorter or maybe not as thick.

If a creature can hold its own against Destroyah for a very long time, eventually Destroyah would suffer enough damage to the creatures that comprise him, that they wouldnt beable to reform into the full final form. Everytime you make him take enough damage to cause him to break down, hes losing the dead creatures that have been killed, so he loses mass every time he has to reform in a fight. And there is a certain number of creatures that are needed to form the Final form, which is why you see so many stages of Destroyahs growth in the movie. As more creatures join together they can make larger and larger forms. The thing we dont know is how many are required to make each stage of Destroyah. Its also possible that his final form in the movie isnt his true final form because more creatures could join to make him grow even larger.

[Horrificus Rex]

I must disagree with the statement that Destroyer does not truly regenerate.

All regeneration is, (Kaiju-Wise), is an ability a creature has to reorganize it's tissue. &nbsp;When we heal, our body uses certain types of tissue to &quot;Clog&quot; a damaged area. &nbsp;That tissue can be coming from throughout the creatures body. &nbsp;In reality, this tissue is just billions of specific cell types that are floating around in the creatures system.

In Destroyah's case, his body is made up of, and has the ability to create billions of microorganisms. &nbsp;And, at will, can reorganize these organisms, and the tissue within.

When he heals, he breaks himself down to it's component tissue and organisms, and puts them all where he wants them.

So, in actuality, he does have similar regeneration attributes to G, but he can do it at will.

God, how I love this stuff!

Horrificus Lives!

[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Horrificus Rex @ April 29 2004,01:28)]I must disagree with the statement that Destroyer does not truly regenerate.

All regeneration is, (Kaiju-Wise), is an ability a creature has to reorganize it's tissue. *When we heal, our body uses certain types of tissue to &quot;Clog&quot; a damaged area. *That tissue can be coming from throughout the creatures body. *In reality, this tissue is just billions of specific cell types that are floating around in the creatures system.

In Destroyah's case, his body is made up of, and has the ability to create billions of microorganisms. *And, at will, can reorganize these organisms, and the tissue within.

When he heals, he breaks himself down to it's component tissue and organisms, and puts them all where he wants them.

So, in actuality, he does have similar regeneration attributes to G, but he can do it at will.

God, how I love this stuff!

Horrificus Lives!
^^

No thats completely wrong. Regeneration is your cells actually dividing to create new cells to repair damage you have suffered, it can regrow limbs if powerful enough as well as organs.

Destroyah cannot do that. He is made up of living creatures that can combine into one or more creatures. If you took the amount of damage Biollante suffered when Godzilla blew off the back of her head and back, and did that damage to Destroyah, he could not regenerate that much mass like Biollanted did. Destroyah has to create more microbs, and how do living creatures make more of themselves? They reproduce sexually, which takes time. Their reproduction may be quick, but its not nearly as fast as regeneration like Goji or Biollante has.

Also Destroyah doesnt just create microbs at will, he has to make them just like other living creatures.

Visually it does look similar to regeneration and is in ways, but its not nearly the same thing. Once a Destroyah microb is damaged or killed, it cant be healed. The others have to cover its absence, until they can reproduce making a totally new one. The wounded or dead ones are simply discarded when he breaks down and reforms.

[Horrificus Rex]

Dorland's Medical Dictionary (http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands.jspzQzpgzEzzSzppdocszSzuszSzcommon zSzdorlandszSzdorlandzSzdmd_r_07zPzhtm)

regeneration (re·gen·er·a·tion) (re-jen²[schwa]r-a¢sh[schwa]n) [re- + generation] &nbsp;the natural renewal of a structure, as of a lost tissue or part.

The Operative Term Being &quot;Part&quot;.

sorry dude. &nbsp;not so. &nbsp;ask Merk!

Horrificus

[Berserk_Seraph]

Pardon? That just defines the term, not the methodology. Regeneration is a natural restoration or reconstruction (For a given value) of wounded tissue or portions of the body by the division and multiplication of new cells to replace damaged ones.

In the terms of regenerating Kaiju like Godzilla, this happens at such an extreme rate that wounds visibly heal over short periods of time, and even the most grievous wounds can be recovered from in time. Given that reptiles can even regenerate lost brain cells (previously assumed to be a finite amount), that means he's tough as nails.

Destroyah's ability to mend itself at speed is more accurately a reconfiguration of existing mass. He breaks apart, routes colony-organisms (Which reproduce quickly but not as fast as, say, cells) from nonessential areas to replace the dead ones (Which are discarded) and reforms. This means he has diminishing returns, while for Goji regeneration is a zero-sum equation - when Goji takes a wound, he returns to optimum strength. When Des takes one, he loses mass. Maybe not much, but he's not going to keep coming back.

[Saruman]

Quote[/b] (Horrificus Rex @ April 29 2004,21:39)]Dorland's Medical Dictionary (http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands.jspzQzpgzEzzSzppdocszSzuszSzcommon zSzdorlandszSzdorlandzSzdmd_r_07zPzhtm)

regeneration (re·gen·er·a·tion) (re-jen²[schwa]r-a¢sh[schwa]n) [re- + generation] *the natural renewal of a structure, as of a lost tissue or part.

The Operative Term Being &quot;Part&quot;.

sorry dude. *not so. *ask Merk!

Horrificus
Answer this question then.

Can a Destroyah Microb, ONE single microb, if it has half its body destroyed, regrow that part of its body?

The answer is NO it cannot and it will die.

If it had regeneration it would beable to regrow the part of its body that was destroyed, but it can not.

Your confusing regeneration with Destroyahs ability to restructure itself when it loses a chunk of Microbs. Destroyah doesnt create mass from nothing, he doesnt posess that ability. He just rearranges the existing microbs to fill the void of any damaged or destroyed ones.

The way your trying to define it, is like saying if a group of 1000 soliders lose 500 in a battle and then receives another 500 troops later that day, that they have regenerated. Sorry, but they havent, they may still be 1000 strong, but 500 are still dead that cant be replaced.

[Horrificus Rex]

Ok, Ok! &nbsp;You are hurting my head!

Actually, we don't know what the healing properties of a Destroyah Microbe are. &nbsp;But, then again, we have no proof of them healing either.

But, we do see evidence of Destroyah Soldiers being created from a fluid leaked from a dead or dying soldier. &nbsp;Is that evidence of tissue or blood, instantly growing into new soldiers? &nbsp;Because, if it is, that is the same action we are attributing to G cells. &nbsp;Almost instantaneous growth from base cellular tissue and chemicals.

Right?

[PyrasTerran]

That is evidence of the aggregate bleeding, coming apart literally from being burned alive. Nothing more.

[Black16]

For the record, Dessy seems to be able to reproduce a little faster than your average bacterial colony. &nbsp;She can regenerate in that fashion, it just isn't anywhere near the speed of Godzilla, Orga, or Biollante.

Small wounds would be mendable. &nbsp;She would have to get creative for larger ones like the massive hole Goji made in her gut.

[kent]

I've been saying Des can regenerate but some people don't believe me. Heck, there are hard facts in the film and some people here have brought them up and agree completely Des can.

[Invictus]

So here's a question. &nbsp;Can Destroyer be poisoned or be infected with a virus? &nbsp;It's obvious that the micropes that make up Destroyer share both a intellectual and physical bond. &nbsp;It looks as if fluids are exchanged by the micropes as Destroyer is in adult form, which is why a strong enough blow makes him bleed, instead of just knocking pieces off. &nbsp;So say, a micrope is infected with somekind of virus, or a poison, would the micrope then share that virus/poison with the rest of the colony, infecting the entire mass?

[Berserk_Seraph]

Quote[/b] ]I've been saying Des can regenerate but some people don't believe me. Heck, there are hard facts in the film and some people here have brought them up and agree completely Des can.

For a given value of regeneration, sure. He can indeed repair himself...but for our purposes Regeneration is as the ability possessed by the big G - restoration of cells at an *astonishing* rate. Dessy can merely reshape himself to account for wounds- Reconstruction, if you will.

Quote[/b] ]Can Destroyer be poisoned or be infected with a virus? &nbsp;It's obvious that the micropes that make up Destroyer share both a intellectual and physical bond. &nbsp;

Maybe, but finding a disease that effects whatever ancient species that Des is made of may prove difficult, and he's not wholly natural anymore.

[biochemitra]

des CAN regenerate. the microbes can divide just as cells can. plus the microbes can probably regenerate in the same way godzilla can as the oxygen destroyer probably uses radiation on some level. now it seems most microbes of des type can regenerate. if godzilla can regenerate so can Des. besides, even if she couldnt the aggregate goji killed would still breakdown and merge with the rest.