28. Jet Jaguar vs. Zilla - Page 3

PyrasTerran · #51 August 16th, 2005, 12:42 PM

uhm, yes he did. He sparked plenty.

And so what if he can fly? Zilla can leap and knock him right out of the sky.

What exactly can flight do if he has no way of combatting other than ramming into things?

kent · #52 August 16th, 2005, 07:10 PM

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Have you all forgotten Jet Jaguar can fly?!

And your point is?

It doesn't matter with JJ. He's not Gigan where he can effectively use a certain part of his body or a special ability to do damage to his foes and knock them down.

Cookson · #53 August 16th, 2005, 10:44 PM

Winner- Zilla
Loser- JJ

I imagined Zilla and JJ in the same scene in GFW with Godzilla and Zilla. If JJ nocked him into the opera house what would he do then? He doesnt have the breath ray that Godzilla has. Zilla gets up and charges JJ nocks him down............

Burning Godzilla · #54 August 19th, 2005, 09:49 AM

People what are Zilla's claws going to do to JJ's armor when Megalon and Gigan hacked at it with their claws that are sharper than Zilla's claws and not one piece fell off?!

Husnock · #55 August 19th, 2005, 09:58 AM

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People what are Zilla's claws going to do to JJ's armor when Megalon and Gigan hacked at it with their claws that are sharper than Zilla's claws and not one piece fell off?!

It's not a matter of the strength of his armor, it's that his internal components tend to get knocked loose when he turns his head too fast.

Besides, it was already mentioned that Gigan and Megalon's arms aren't meant for "hacking," tearing, or ripping away at things.

kent · #56 August 19th, 2005, 09:30 PM

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People what are Zilla's claws going to do to JJ's armor when Megalon and Gigan hacked at it with their claws that are sharper than Zilla's claws and not one piece fell off?!

How do you know their claws were sharper? For all you know, they could have been more dull.

Gojira2000 · #57 August 19th, 2005, 09:32 PM

Winner: JJ
Loser: Zilla

Burning Godzilla · #58 August 21st, 2005, 09:56 AM

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How do you know their claws were sharper? For all you know, they could have been more dull.

Are swords and drills sharper than a lizard's nails? Yes. So I say JJ will win.

MirrenDono · #59 August 21st, 2005, 10:33 AM

Umm, depending on what kind of drill you're talking about, it may actually be very dull. You see, most drills aren't meant to pierce. The way they're fashioned, and how they turn, they just slowly break into whatever they're being drilled into, and then only go so far as how much velocity is put into it

And your analogy still sucks, haven't you realized by now that the Kaiju's bodies are far different from regular animals? Would a lion like Seesar run on his hind legs? Hell no. Would a mantis survive missiles like Kamacuras? Probably not.

Zilla's not an animal, he's a monster

Burning Godzilla · #60 August 21st, 2005, 10:40 AM

He is just a big desert lizard; the only things different are his size, the fact he stands on his hind legs, and his appearance. NOTHING ELSE CHANGED! He doesn't have a fiery inferno ray now does he?

Mecha74 · #61 August 21st, 2005, 11:10 AM

Just a couple of questions I want to throw out for anyone to answer. Does JJ getting knocked senseless or out count as a victory for Zilla and how durable is Zilla's body?(skin, bones, etc.) Could he take physical abuse from JJ?

PyrasTerran · #62 August 21st, 2005, 11:12 AM

yes, KO counts as a victory.

Zilla is moderately durable one can only assume.

How sad. This is truely a fight Zilla can win, and yet, the hatred for him persists through the polls.

Looks like you can never change first impression.

Burning Godzilla · #63 August 21st, 2005, 11:15 AM

NO IT ISN"T ZILLA CAN'T WIN!

anguirus55 · #64 August 21st, 2005, 11:15 AM

Just because it's a fight he can win doesn't mean that he will. For instance, I firmly believe that King Seesar can beat Frankenstein's Monster, but I voted for the Monster because I thought he was more likely to win. That's why I voted for JJ here. On a personal level, I do not like either very much, it's just my opinion on the fight.

At least Zilla isn't getting slammed as hard as my boy Frankie!

Mecha74 · #65 August 21st, 2005, 11:27 AM

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yes, KO counts as a victory.

Zilla is moderately durable one can only assume.

Thanks Pyras, I think I know who to vote for now.

HolyGoji777 · #66 August 21st, 2005, 01:47 PM

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He is just a big desert lizard; the only things different are his size, the fact he stands on his hind legs, and his appearance.

sooooo you mean hes NOTHING LIKE A NORMAL LIZARD!!!!!

Zilla wins this.

Morgoth · #67 August 22nd, 2005, 08:24 AM

This is actually a pretty fairly matched fight. Zilla looks like it can deal out more damage (I mean, its jaws can crush metal at least), but it didn't display any great amount of durability in the film (the Aussies didn't even send any tanks out to shoot at it). JJ on the other hand, can take a brutal pounding from two of the most psychotic Showa era monsters out there. This means, I think, a really looong fight, JJ unable to deal signifigant damage but Zilla unable to deal out enough to drop the robot. Eventually, the organic monster will tire and at that point the robot will finally have the advantage.

Match goes into overtime, then goes to Jet Jaguar.

Ben-H · #68 August 22nd, 2005, 04:55 PM

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Zilla unable to deal out enough to drop the robot. Eventually, the organic monster will tire and at that point the robot will finally have the advantage.

What? Did you see the GINO98 movie? Zilla is able to use his jaws and claws to tear through thick metal like a ship's hull and even concrete like it was tinfoil. All Zilla would have to do is chomp down or slash his claws and he could very easily tear off Jet Jaguar's arms, or dig into his chest, or crush his head. Hell, all Zilla would have to do would be run and jump at Jet Jaguar just like he did to Godzilla in GFW. But unlike Godzilla, Jet Jaguar is not very strong, and certainly not strong enough to fling away Zilla when he's flying toward him at flank speed and momentum. So, if Zilla got a running start and jumped at Jet Jaguar (as he has shown himself to be prone to do), he could land on him with his four clawed limbs and basically tear through him in one swift instant.

And if that alone wasn't enough, Zilla is fast. Very fast and very agile. And Zilla, in all of his running, jumping, sprinting, diving, and dodging, never once showed the slightest hint of tire or exhaustion. Whereas Jet Jaguar, an inorganic robot, spun around in circles a few times and fell down dizzy. Jet Jaguar would get tired long before Zilla would. But the fight probably wouldn't last that long anyway, as Zilla could easily take out Jet Jaguar from the get-go.

anguirus55 · #69 August 22nd, 2005, 05:07 PM

Does dizziness have ANYTHING to do with getting tired?

And does ANYONE doubt that Megalon and Gigan, despite never ripping apart JJ, could pull off such impressive feats as tearing through ship's hulls and concrete?

Keizer Kornfreek · #70 August 22nd, 2005, 08:24 PM

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Does dizziness have ANYTHING to do with getting tired?

And does ANYONE doubt that Megalon and Gigan, despite never ripping apart JJ, could pull off such impressive feats as tearing through ship's hulls and concrete?

I don't doubt they could but I doubt they would. Thats the difference here. Zilla is gonna maul, and go right through the metal JJ is made of, as it probably isn't even as strong/thick as what that big *** ship was made of due to it being made by some "backyard scientist", and then hes gonna be tearing into wiring and chips and whatnot. JJ is pretty screwed as I see it.

Morgoth · #71 August 23rd, 2005, 06:59 AM

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What? Did you see the GINO98 movie? .

Regretably, I did. What does GINO have to do with this fight? Zilla is strictly the creature we see in GFW, and its abilities are strictly within the context of that film. Anything its progenitor from that abomination of a movie could or could not do is entirely irrelevent, just like anything Showa Godzilla can do being irrelevenet when debating GxM Godzilla.

Gorjirus · #72 August 23rd, 2005, 09:42 AM

I am torn by this close match. Both have the oppurtunity to win, and either can just as easily loose.

Thus, I Abstain.

Zeptron · #73 August 25th, 2005, 07:04 PM

WINNER: Jet Jaguar.

LOSER: Zilla.

Ben-H · #74 August 25th, 2005, 07:38 PM

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Regretably, I did. What does GINO have to do with this fight? Zilla is strictly the creature we see in GFW, and its abilities are strictly within the context of that film. Anything its progenitor from that abomination of a movie could or could not do is entirely irrelevent, just like anything Showa Godzilla can do being irrelevenet when debating GxM Godzilla.

Except that Zilla'04 has the exact same design of jaws, arms, legs, muscles, etc. as Zilla'98. That alone would merit equal strength. But, Zilla'04 is also 30 meters taller than Zilla'98, meaning he is even stronger. Meaning that it would be even easier for him to tear into the thick metal hull of a ship, even easier for him to tear through skyscrapers and concrete, and even easier for him to tear through the basic metal of the amateur-built Jet Jaguar.

Morgoth · #75 August 26th, 2005, 07:57 AM

They why didn't it? Instead of 'tearing through skyscrapers' as you say, the iguana chases people down streets and around corners. Makes good sense, but hardly a display of immense strength or power. In fact, the stupid brute doesn't even get a chance to really display just how tough its claws might be, its jaws yes, but not its claws. It displays no ability to burrow, no ability to claw its way through steel and certainly no 'quick and easy' slashing through ship hulls. I'm gonna go with what the lizard actually DID not what it MIGHT be able to do.