Debate: Afiag vs. GodofPH

[godofPH]

I say PH takes this. I see that his VFX powers have been removed from the list, but something still stands that clarifys that he still has it

Method of Attack: Since his physical strength leaves much to be desired, PH relies on speedy movements and quick reactions to win. His Matrix Suit allows him to move in bullet time and mach-speed. However, the latter can be fatal: 1) It drains his energy greatly to move as such, and 2) one wrong move and he'll be splattered. As a result, he does this only sparingly, usually only as a last resort. Even without mach speed or bullet time, however, PH moves very quickly and can be hard to hit. And when he goes in for the attack, he relies on fast combos instead of single hits, due to his lack of impressive physical strength overall.

So his slowmo powers are still there. So your sticking PH's handy little powers on a big dinosaur with a strength of ten. And since his physical power is increased in slowmo, that makes for one whallop of a punch when PH attacks. It'll be like a train striking a car. Bye-bye vampire.

[Burkion]

PH, Method of Attack should be ignored. Completely. Seeing how I'm no longer a vampire, and yet my MoA states me as such, it is null in void. As will your argument if you don't change it.

[Neo-Crucifer]

Originally Posted by Burkion

PH, Method of Attack should be ignored. Completely. Seeing how I'm no longer a vampire, and yet my MoA states me as such, it is null in void. As will your argument if you don't change it.

So just because yours no longer matters means none of them do?



Why does BS post them, then?

[Burkion]

Read the others Neo. It says PH has a low strenght, when his is a frikkin ten plus! That and it also says in other threads that Godzilla still his his red beam and BSD still has his swarm, while neither have none of those listed attacks.


BSD just forgot to either snip out the MoA, or edit them.

[Burkion]

Afiag could always, ya know, blast PH from a distance. Like he normally would, and considering he keeps his chi attacks...


And we need to take into account the Hydras that are around.

[godofPH]

PH's Regeneration and tough hide will keep those 'blasts from a distance' inneffective. If Afiag wants to win, will need to get in close.

[Seer235]

Continue the debate on that fight here, so BS doesn't get mad.

[Burkion]

OK PH, you seem to forget something here: Afiag is a bit faster then you in reflexes. Which will make all the worlds of differance when fighting a bulky monster like yourslef.

[godofPH]

And Rodan was faster than Godzilla in Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla II, but look how that fight turned out.

[Burkion]

THat's because Godzilla was horriendisly more powerful, and maybe smarter, in all other categories. Plus, Rodan wasn't that fast either. WIth the excetion of speed, Afiag and PH are dead even. Oh, and Afiag's bite, and flight, and his chi blasts...

[godofPH]

PH's bite is venomous as well, for his saliva is toxic. He is stronger than Afiag in strength. Also, how powerful are the chi blasts? But I'm sure that they wouldn't bother him that badly, since he has a tough hide and regeneration. And, I think your flight can be altered if PH unloads a clip or two from his dual-wielded machine guns into his wings, which are like a bat's. He won't fly as well if he gets holes in those wings, and when he comes crashing down an angry dinosaur will be waiting.

[godofPH]

Sorry for the double-post, but I have a new stance to put in. PH should still have his Matrix Suit powers. I've been told by BS Digital Q himself that PH still has his pants after that monstrous transformation. During an AIM Conversation, I brought that up to Demon Eyes Parker. He said that he may lose Mach Speed, but the power of Slow-Mo would be retained if PH had just his pants. Now, Slow-Mo may be all he needs here. Because his attack strength is upped by 3 in slowmo, and now he has strength of 10. That means 10+. And, Afiag's attacks will be much easier to dodge and PH will gain a mobility advantage. He can jump up and take the Manbat down before Afiag knows what hit him. And imagine how much better the bullets of his Machine guns will do in slowmo.

[Bruticus]

PH's assertion that he would still have his slow-mo powers, even with just his pants, is indeed correct. I'm not sure if that power is still mentioned in PH's stats at this point, however (from the sounds of things it isn't), so if it isn't, it might not be useful to mention it here anyway.

As for my stance on this fight as a whole, I do have to give it a bit more thought. Afiag's chi blasts are fairly powerful and might be able to stagger PH a bit. However, I'll have to review the stats before I give a definitive answer.

[Burkion]

It's not stated as one of his powers, thus he dosen't have such of an attack. Also, what happens if PH manages to burst one of the tanks near by? Afiag can avoid it very well, but PH? Even IF he could survive under water, his guns wont, which means he wont have a way to attack Afiag, who could either blast him with his shot gun, which IS more powerful then both of your Machine Guns, or chi blast you to hell. Then we must take in account the Hydras...

[godofPH]

Like you said yourself, guns won't do work underwater. So the shotgun is out too if the room floods. And I think the Hydras will do more damage to Afiag. PH can rip the little buggers apart with his strength and claws.

[Burkion]

Oh yeah right. Afiag can just avoid 'em by flying high enough. And guns wont work IN water. Bullets being fired into the water WILL work, however. Afiag is going to stay OUT of the water. And his chi blasts will STILL bring all kinds of hell upon you.

[Seer235]

As for the MOA, anything that contradicts the weapons/ability listings is null. So ignore anything in the MOA. Thus, PH doesn't have his Slo-Mo or Mach Speed.

Said by BSDQ in the voting thread. Hope it clears this up.