Wizard magazine's top 100 greatest villains ever list.

[Zigra]

Actually, the Xenomorphs have a higher level of intelligence than they are often given credit for. Remember that the queen in "Aliens" was able to comprehend how to use an elevator. And they also knew enough to deliberately cut off the colony's power.

[Morgoth]

I have problems slapping an entire species, culture, etc as villains. To me, that should be individuals, not collectives.

[Zigra]

I understand where you're coming from, but sometimes we are given an entire race or group of villains without much or any focus on an individual. You really have no choice but to list the entire race, and simply being an entire race doesn't take away their evilness.

[Burkion]

You could just lable Grid or the Queen.

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Voorhees13th

You could just lable Grid or the Queen.

I think the Queen would be a really good choice to represent the Aliens. Although, I'm not sure about Grid though, he doesn't have quite the same affect as the Queen has.

[Burkion]

He was a smart cookie though, and the best damn thing about that movie.

[Morgoth]

The Queen is more iconic and, more importantly, better known.

[Burkion]

True.

*Sighs* Maybe another day, Grid. You kickass Xeno.

[Zigra]

Originally Posted by Voorhees13th

True.

*Sighs* Maybe another day, Grid. You kickass Xeno.

Hardly anything from AVP deserves to be on a "best of" list. I especially wouldn't put 'Grid' on the list just because he killed a couple of woefully incompetent Predators.

[Burkion]

Bah, Grid kicked ***. And was smart.

[Cole Deschain]

Originally Posted by Voorhees13th

Bah, Grid kicked [the] *** [of some stupid as all hell humans and some rookie Preds who got the shaft, scriptwise.]. And was smart[er than some of the dumbest humans ever put on screen].

There.

Fixed it for you.

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

I have problems slapping an entire species, culture, etc as villains. To me, that should be individuals, not collectives.

And more brutal overall. After all, she lays the eggs of these things.

[godofPH]

Originally Posted by Orga777

And more brutal overall. After all, she lays the eggs of these things.

So responsibility qualifies her then? Does that mean Jar Jar can make the list because he was the one that made the motion to give Chancellor Palpatine emergency powers, in turn setting in the motions of the events that created the Galactic Empire?

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by godofPH

So responsibility qualifies her then? Does that mean Jar Jar can make the list because he was the one that made the motion to give Chancellor Palpatine emergency powers, in turn setting in the motions of the events that created the Galactic Empire?

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It is more than just responsibility. She is pretty much an Uber form of the Xenomorph in every single possible way (except maybe speed.) I mean, just watching the film Alien tells you that it is one nasty monster.

And besides, it was more than just Jar Jar that gave Palpatine his powers. They needed more votes than just his...

[Zeptron]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

I have problems slapping an entire species, culture, etc as villains. To me, that should be individuals, not collectives.

Except for the Aztecs. And the French.

[Morgoth]

But they aren't going to win any top 100 villains list. That should be a mark of individual achievement.

[alienhulk2099]

I hereby dub this topic revived!Anyways......

95. Stewie Griffin(Family Guy)
94. Braniac(Superman the animated series)

If Family Guy stopped at season 2 I wouldn't mind Stewie there. As for Braniac, he should have been higher than HAL 9000, this is too low.

92. Dean Wormer(Animal House)

How do angry principals make better villians than anime villians like Pasdar, Palperia (I spell that right?), Kankel, Zeiram, Verg, or even the Blue? As much as I love Animal House, he doesn't belong here.

91. Auric Goldfinger(Goldfinger)

I prefer Dr. No, but Goldfinger is top 100 worthy.

81. Angel Eyes(The Good and the Bad and the Ugly)

100% agree, although he could have made top 70.

76. The Socs(The Outsiders)

Not a bad choice, narcassist white trash rich kids that pick on the poor delenquints that get in trouble.

67. Venom(Marvel comics)

I would have thought of Venom as an anti-hero, but he is my favorite Spider Man adversary.

66. Sideshow Bob(The Simpsons)

His plans of revenge make him worthy, but not this far up.

62. Gollum(LOTR, Return of the King)

And Balrog doesn't pass him or even make the list? Fail.

40. Buu(Dragonball Z)
39. Michael Corleone(The Godfather part 2)

Agree 100%.

37. Predator(Predator)

See above.

32. Hans Gruber(Die Hard)

A little to high up on the list, but he's nothing short of top 50.

24. Agent Smith(The Matrix)

Ahh, my favorite Matrix character making the list, and in the right spot no less.

18. Galactus(Marvel)

I really wouldn't count Galactus as a villian entirely, he's just trying to survive. Even if it means eating planets..........

16. The Thing(John Carpenter's the Thing)

As cool as Thing is gotta say no. It's just trying to survive.

14. Freddy Krueger(Nightmare on Elm Street)

A little too high, but I 100% agree.

13. Aliens(Aliens)

See Galactus and Thing.

10. The Shark(JAWS)

..............................Even if he is a villian he sure as heck doesn't pass a Sith Lord like Vader. This should not be on any villians list and here's why:

The Shark (name it Jaws or Bruce for pete sake!) does not count as a villian. Put yourself in his situation: You're a great white, you're bigger than other members of your species, meaning you need a larger diet than seals. You live in the North Atlantic which is cold except in the late summer. Great whites are warm blooded and need to eat warm blooded food (IE seals and sea lions) to survive. Seals aren't going to do it so you go for the next thing: humans. Sweet tooth for it? Better than starving to death. Besides, he technically killed Quint in self defense, if you lived in a place without laws and three guys are trying to kill you would you let them? No. He's demonically smart, that simply makes him a better hunter.

6. Hannibal Lector(Silence of the Lambs)
5. Zombies(Dawn of the Dead 2004)

The criminals from Crocodile 2 and Eddy from Snakes on a Plane are better bad guys than them. A psychiatrist cannibal and some fast running zombies make the list, let alone top 10? Tisk tisk.

2. Pazuzu(The Exorcist)

Pazuzu never impressed me, yet he makes the number 2 spot.

[SuperXAsh]

First off.... why was this topic revived? O.o;; It's been almost a year since the last post before thread necromancy...

Second, The Shark from Jaws IS very much so a villain, and if not an outright villain than at least a freakin' monster. SHARKS don't just go about eating only people, like this shark did. THERE'S plenty of big fish for a thing as big as this creature to survive on, but no... he hunts down only humans, and displays almost supernatural abilities, abilities normal (REAL) sharks DO. NOT. DISPLAY. Not to mention it was out in the middle of the ocean... where I'm sure there's PLENTY of other food sources (sharks, dolphins, killer whales, etc.) for it to eat... but no... it's hounding three humans in a boat with near calculated intellect.

NOT to mention the effect it's movie had on generations of movie-goers, probably to this very day.

Understand foo?

[alienhulk2099]

First off.... why was this topic revived? O.o;; It's been almost a year since the last post before thread necromancy...

You guys get to revive Marvel vs. Capcom after two years.*grumbles*Besides, I have the actual issue this list was in.

SHARKS don't just go about eating only people, like this shark did. THERE'S plenty of big fish for a thing as big as this creature to survive on, but no... he hunts down only humans, and displays almost supernatural abilities, abilities normal (REAL) sharks DO. NOT. DISPLAY. Not to mention it was out in the middle of the ocean... where I'm sure there's PLENTY of other food sources (sharks, dolphins, killer whales, etc.) for it to eat... but no... it's hounding three humans in a boat with near calculated intellect.

You've got to understand that great whites are warm blooded sharks. I imagine he didn't want to chase food in the open ocean because it's too difficult because of the cold temperatures. Even if that wasn't the case great whites don't go too far from shore when feeding on seals, so him coming close to shore does actually make sense. As for the only eating on humans thing, it's big and needs warm blooded creatures larger than seals to survive, humans are larger than seals, it has little other choice. Besides, compared to dolphins and orcas humans are ridiculously slow, meaning they're alot easier to grab. Think of it this way: Would you rather go out hunting for your deer and bring it back home or would you eat perfectly good leftovers of deer you know isn't getting lost?

[godofPH]

Originally Posted by alienhulk2099

You guys get to revive Marvel vs. Capcom after two years.*grumbles*Besides, I have the actual issue this list was in.

The MvsC topic was resurrected because there was news that a new Marvel vs. Capcom game was possible in the future.

[Orga777]

Yeah, this should not have been revived. Every time I look at this list it get worse and worse...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by alienhulk2099

The criminals from Crocodile 2 and Eddy from Snakes on a Plane are better bad guys than them. A psychiatrist cannibal and some fast running zombies make the list, let alone top 10? Tisk tisk.

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You do know that Hannibal Lector is a great-villain simply because of how real he is, right? He could exist so easily in our society, unnoticed, people going missing for no noticeable reason...

Yeah. Not to mention it's Sir Anthony ****ing Hopkins. You know. The guy who got an Oscar for 15 minutes of total screen time?

[Gorjirus]

To point out BSDQ: Sharks don't hunt killer whales. Killer Whales hunt sharks.

[BS Digital Q]

Originally Posted by Gorjirus

To point out BSDQ: Sharks don't hunt killer whales. Killer Whales hunt sharks.

The ****? Where did I post that?

[alienhulk2099]

You do know that Hannibal Lector is a great-villain simply because of how real he is, right?

And movies are, *gasp!* ment to get away from reality!

He could exist so easily in our society

He got caught.

unnoticed, people going missing for no noticeable reason

That makes him a villian, not the cannibalism (which is all I've seen the guy do)?

Not to mention it's Sir Anthony ****ing Hopkins. You know. The guy who got an Oscar for 15 minutes of total screen time?

So winning an oscar automatically makes the character that person plays a better hero/villian. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

To point out BSDQ:

Pretty sure that was SuperXAsh.