Kiryu V.1 vs Orga

RexRaptor · #1 April 11th, 2004, 06:36 PM

Muwahahahahaha! This outta make you all think. BTW, Orga can use his DNA drain ability on Kiryu. And Kiryu has the AZC.

Cole Deschain · #2 April 11th, 2004, 06:40 PM

<font color='#0000FF'>DNA drain? Unless he can punch through to the bones, that won't mean a thing.

And the AZC will be more than sufficient to deal with the slow-moving Orga, in any case.

PyrasTerran · #3 April 11th, 2004, 06:43 PM

Orga can still drain the DNA, he wasn't exactly penetrating Godzilla's hide when he was doing that.

However, fat chance that'll do him.

Kiryu's weaponry is going to rip through him like butter, and if he can't stop him then, there's always trhe AZC.

Alien-G · #4 April 11th, 2004, 08:25 PM

After watching Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, didn't they just use a spinal cell to make Mechagodzilla?

PyrasTerran · #5 April 11th, 2004, 08:49 PM

The whole skeleton is in it.

Melkor · #6 April 11th, 2004, 11:34 PM

Kiryu has the firepower and the will to rip Orga to shreds. I doubt he'll even have a moment to consider siphoning Kiryu's DNA before he gats blasted to tiny, frostbitten bits.

Peace,

Melkor

#7 April 11th, 2004, 11:36 PM

I think Kiryu would just blast missles at him and kill him like that.

kent · #8 April 12th, 2004, 02:11 PM

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Quote[/b] ]After watching Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, didn't they just use a spinal cell to make Mechagodzilla?

Actually he's right. When those scientists are having that conference, that Aso guy (I know that's not his name in the movie), asked the main character scientist if he could remove some spinal cells to help with the creation of Kiryu. Plus they used special DNA computers the first time to control Kiryu. And when Kiryu was going berserk, it went inside of it and should the cells reacting to Godzilla's roar.

Husnock · #9 April 12th, 2004, 10:21 PM

I believe the whole "skeleton" thing was started as just a rumor, like the one about Kiryuu killing Mothra in GMMG.

kent · #10 April 12th, 2004, 10:26 PM

^I dunno about the GMMG since I haven't seen it, but I agree completely on the skeleton thing. I heard a bunch of rumors that Kiryu was going to house the original Godzilla's skeleton. But when you actually watch the movie, they only implanted spinal cells of the Godzilla.

Husnock · #11 April 12th, 2004, 10:36 PM

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Quote[/b] (kent @ April 12 2004,22:26)]^I dunno about the GMMG since I haven't seen it

There were summaries posted a while back that all had Mothra being blown up by (guess who...) Godzilla.

anguirus55 · #12 April 12th, 2004, 10:37 PM

GMMG confirms that part of the skeleton is inside Kiryu.  Or so I'm told.

Where were we?  Kiryu kicking Orga's ***?  Yeah, think so.

Husnock · #13 April 12th, 2004, 10:43 PM

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Quote[/b] (anguirus55 @ April 12 2004,22:37)]GMMG confirms that part of the skeleton is inside Kiryu. *Or so I'm told.

Where were we? *Kiryu kicking Orga's ***? *Yeah, think so.

Well, that was the reason Mothra got involved in the first place.  Could they have put it in afterwards?

kent · #14 April 12th, 2004, 10:53 PM

They must have, cause it surely wasn't in GMG. Or perhaps they didn't and Mothra could have sensed the cells?

Husnock · #15 April 12th, 2004, 11:06 PM

^^^

Or maybe Mothra just got pissed about the skeleton because the JSDF had it in their possession in the first place?  Perhaps even a mix of both?

anguirus55 · #16 April 12th, 2004, 11:10 PM

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Quote[/b] ]They must have, cause it surely wasn't in GMG.

What makes you say that?

It's even in the original Kiryu schematic.

kent · #17 April 12th, 2004, 11:20 PM

They just used spinal cells from the original Godzilla. They didn't build Kiryu around the whole skeleton. At least not in GMG.

anguirus55 · #18 April 12th, 2004, 11:36 PM

And your evidence is...?

We never see the skeleton after Kiryu is built.  It is never stated that the spinal cell is *all* they need...that's just where they get the DNA, I figure.

Those who have seen GMMG seem to think it is pretty clear.  And all they really do to Kiryu between films is repair him, they don't have the budget to tear him apart and shove bones inside.

kent · #19 April 12th, 2004, 11:58 PM

Evidence is in the film. And I shall post part of what I said in my first post in this thread. I suggest that you watch GMG as well agains. Just because we don't see the skeleton again, doesn't mean that they used it. Anyways, here's the post:

When those scientists are having that conference, that Aso guy (I know that's not his name in the movie), asked the main character scientist if he could remove some spinal cells to help with the creation of Kiryu.

anguirus55 · #20 April 13th, 2004, 12:06 AM

^ Um...that's what I said!  And I've seen that movie a crapload of times.

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Quote[/b] ]Just because we don't see the skeleton again, doesn't mean that they used it.

Yes...but it certainly is another piece of evidence to do with the fact that the whole plot of GMMG is based around the skeleton being inside Kiryu!

kent · #21 April 13th, 2004, 12:18 AM

But I wouldn't know since I haven't seen GMMG. I said that in one of my earlier posts.

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Quote[/b] ]We never see the skeleton after Kiryu is built.  It is never stated that the spinal cell is *all* they need...that's just where they get the DNA, I figure.

Said it a crapload of times? You only said it once really. Here in this statement, you still think they used the skeleton in GMG because you figured they just needed the DNA. So techincally, you weren't saying it in a same sense that I've been.
You and I have been on somewhat different pages here. One says one thing while the other person thinks that that person is saying something different. Like I said, I haven't seen GMMG so I wouldn't know if the skeleton was used in Kiryu. All I know is that they used the cells in Kiryu in GMG. Perhaps after the final fight with Godzilla, since Kiryu was somewhat badly damaged, they decided to put the skeleton in it. That's my assumption if you say that it's in Kiryu in GMMG.

Tomzilla · #22 April 13th, 2004, 12:22 AM

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Quote[/b] (PyrasTerran @ April 11 2004,18:43)]Orga can still drain the DNA, he wasn't exactly penetrating Godzilla's hide when he was doing that.

However, fat chance that'll do him.

Kiryu's weaponry is going to rip through him like butter, and if he can't stop him then, there's always trhe AZC.

Yes, but Godzilla's hide is still made up of cells/DNA, which is all Orga would need.

Kiryu on the other hand is metal. The only organic part inside of him would be the "skeleton", where Orga's claws and teeth would need to pierce armor that is incredibly thick. Thick enough to withstand such physical assaults.

Yeah, so...Kiryu wins this.

biohazard85 · #23 April 13th, 2004, 03:04 PM

Kiryu-Godzilla Skeleton

That seems like proof enough for me...

As for Kiryu and Orga, I really don't think any of Kiryu's 'normal' weapons could do anything to Orga, since its hyper regeneration would heal everything that is dished out.

This may cause Kiryu some trouble, since it has no means to pin Orga down, letting it get a clear shot with the ABZ. Though, as long as Orga doesn't jump, Kiryu will always have at least a good chance at hitting him with the ABZ.