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October 15th, 2007, 09:53 PM
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October 15th, 2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
Holy ****.
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October 15th, 2007, 10:24 PM
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
Owwwwwwww...
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October 15th, 2007, 10:27 PM
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
Hmmm... the Returning Champ of last DD V.S. the past Champ of DD I... Tough call here folks IMO... but... BG for teh win!!!
Nah but really... I still think this is a tough call... I'll abstain for now...
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October 15th, 2007, 10:31 PM
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
This fight is going to be good, but I favor Grand King Ghidorah by a hair. Why? The battlefield is going to help him out here. The field will keep Burning Godzilla cool enough from going totally postal when this fight extends. GKG's shield will protect him from the beams that BG shoots off as well. Now, GKG is not one to go into close combat like otehr Ghidorah's. He keeps his distance. That means that his beam spamming from long distance keeps him out of Goji's strong suit of close combat.
All of GKG's attacks won't do much, but Godzilla's energy will be drained due to his body (like in the movie before the SXIII attacked him.) and he will retreat. Not only that, this field will keep him from getting too powerful like him his bout with Destroyah. I see GKG pulling out of this one.
And Gotengo is trashed the moment this fight starts so that is not important.
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October 15th, 2007, 10:32 PM
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
Hmmm... CAN the shield be potent enough to reflect numerous Spiral Rays? Just out of curiosity of course...
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Hmmm... CAN the shield be potent enough to reflect numerous Spiral Rays? Just out of curiosity of course...
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In Godzilla vs. Destroyah, Burning Godzilla's early beams are said to be weaker. that was said by the Super X III crew in the Jap version (which is the cannon version.) And since this field will keep Goji cooler his beam won't get rediculous like it did during the fight with Destroyah. So I don't see why not.
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October 15th, 2007, 10:35 PM
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This fight is going to be good, but I favor Grand King Ghidorah by a hair. Why? The battlefield is going to help him out here. The field will keep Burning Godzilla cool enough from going totally postal when this fight extends. GKG's shield will protect him from the beams that BG shoots off as well. Now, GKG is not one to go into close combat like otehr Ghidorah's. He keeps his distance. That means that his beam spamming from long distance keeps him out of Goji's strong suit of close combat.
All of GKG's attacks won't do much, but Godzilla's energy will be drained due to his body (like in the movie before the SXIII attacked him.) and he will retreat. Not only that, this field will keep him from getting too powerful like him his bout with Destroyah. I see GKG pulling out of this one.
And Gotengo is trashed the moment this fight starts so that is not important.
Winner: Grand King Ghidorah
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I am agreeing with Orga here. The battlefield is definately going to help a bit, since the temperature is so cold.
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
Indeed, Org... but can Anartica's temperature equate SXIII's freezing arsenal?
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Indeed, Org... but can Anartica's temperature equate SXIII's freezing arsenal?
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Not in the cadmium aspect, but the overall frigidness will slow him down. It gets pretty damn cold in Antarctica. Since GKG can travel in space, the temperature is not going to effect him.
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Indeed, Org... but can Anartica's temperature equate SXIII's freezing arsenal?
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No. But it still helps. Goji may not become a dino-popcicle, but his temperture will be kept at a more tolerable level than what happened in GvsD.
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Re: 01. Burning Godzilla vs. Grand King Ghidorah
Ah I see... Now... this battle seems a little more poised for a Ghidorah takeover then...
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Ah I see... Now... this battle seems a little more poised for a Ghidorah takeover then...
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Something also interesting to note, is how GKG will take Godzilla's energy. Mothra's energy did diddily squat, and GKG could travel through space. In space there are forces of extreme heat and cold? Could perhaps he resist Godzilla's heat as well?
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Something also interesting to note, is how GKG will take Godzilla's energy. Mothra's energy did diddily squat, and GKG could travel through space. In space there are forces of extreme heat and cold? Could perhaps he resist Godzilla's heat as well?
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I don't really think so EM... take a comet for example... It's nearly always in a state of being frozen... even if it travels 6 miles per second... But then again... Comets ARE made out of rare metals and frozen gases...
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I don't really think so EM... take a comet for example... It's nearly always in a state of being frozen... even if it travels 6 miles per second... But then again... Comets ARE made out of rare metals and frozen gases...
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Yeah but Ghidorah's shield was meant to protect him from heat/energy. Heck, Armor Mothra's beam barely did anything to him. If he travels through space, he is combatting the heat of stars on many different powerlevels, Earth's atmosphere even. He even survived the heat of a volcano. That says a lot.
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October 15th, 2007, 10:50 PM
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The climate really isn't going to be as big of a problem for Desu as some of you are making it out to be. The average temp down there is around -70°F, but during the summer it's usually around 35.6°F. In fact at a few regions the average ranges form -18°F to 26.6°F. Compared to creature that's over a thousand degrees, this kind of cold isn't that significant.
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The climate really isn't going to be as big of a problem for Desu as some of you are making it out to be. The average temp down there is around -70°F, but during the summer it's usually around 2°C. In fact at a few regions the average ranges form -28°C to 26.6°F. Compared to creature that's over a thousand degrees, this kind of cold isn't that significant.
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I'd like to think that as well Mirren... Now... I need to find out how cold the SXIII's arsenal really is then... Thanks for the figures by the way Mirren!
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The climate really isn't going to be as big of a problem for Desu as some of you are making it out to be. The average temp down there is around -70°F, but during the summer it's usually around 2°C. In fact at a few regions the average ranges form -28°C to 26.6°F. Compared to creature that's over a thousand degrees, this kind of cold isn't that significant.
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Well it depends how long he is exposed to it. The longer something is explosed to a cold climate, the cooler the body temperture will become. Remember, Goji is a reptilian, they dont' take well to cold climates. True he is really heated, but that won't last him forever.
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Even if Godzilla's beam was weaker when he faught the SXIII, I think that by the time he was wrapping up against Destroyah, it was more powerful than normal, based on the destruction. But it will take a while to get up especially when you conider the battlefield.
Speaking of the Battle field, it'll do more than just keep Goji cool. He should be more than hot enough to melt the ice, and that could hamper him a lot. What's more if you drop something hot, like boiling water on ice, you get a lot of steam. Visibility is going to suck for both combatents. As for GKG's traveling through space, does this version do that in a metoer or not. Cause if he does that could be used as an aurgument that to protect himself he has to encase himself.
This could be a crazy fight, and if it were anywhere else I would give Goji a much better chance, but this battleground makes me think GKG can take it. Damn I'm not sure I want a two year in a row champion yet though.
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Well it depends how long he is exposed to it. The longer something is explosed to a cold climate, the cooler the body temperture will become. Remember, Goji is a reptilian, they dont' take well to cold climates. True he is really heated, but that won't last him forever.
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The problem is that it would take a terribly long time for what you're speaking of. A comparison would be trying to cool about fifty millilters worth of lava with a small fire exstinguisher. Certainly possible, but you're going to need a lot of CO2 for that.
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The longer something is explosed to a cold climate, the cooler the body temperture will become. Remember, Goji is a reptilian, they dont' take well to cold climates. True he is really heated, but that won't last him forever.
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Godzilla's warm blooded isn't he?
Plus, 2 degrees isn't going to cool down 1000 degrees when the Super XIII missiles were more like liquid nitrogen than bitter cold.
And when Orga mentions that Godzilla's beam is weak, it isn't weak all the time, thus why it gets the biggest explosions.
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Godzilla's warm blooded isn't he?
Plus, 2 degrees isn't going to cool down 1000 degrees when the Super XIII missiles were more like liquid nitrogen than bitter cold.
And when Orga mentions that Godzilla's beam is weak, it isn't weak all the time, thus why it gets the biggest explosions.
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Godzilla is cold blooded, it was stated in GvsBiollante. That is why they wanted to make his temperature rise so badly, so the bacteria would take affect. Since Goji is a cold blooded animal, it doesn't function very well in colder climates. I'm not saying that it would be as effective as the Super X-3's weapons, but it certainly would contribute based on his nature as a cold-blooded animal.
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I'm not saying that it would be as effective as the Super X-3's weapons, but it certainly would contribute based on his nature as a cold-blooded animal.
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Godzilla's way too hot at this point to be affected by cold weather. The Gotengo's freezing maser would be the only cold-based weapon here that would affect him.
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Yeah but Ghidorah's shield was meant to protect him from heat/energy. Heck, Armor Mothra's beam barely did anything to him. If he travels through space, he is combatting the heat of stars on many different powerlevels, Earth's atmosphere even. He even survived the heat of a volcano. That says a lot.
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No, it [the scales] reflects light. That's why beam weapons are nullified. As Tomzilla pointed out in a different thread, GKG's shield doesn't repel heat (after Rainbow Mothra's beams hit it, steam rises from the scales). Thus, BG's heat-based beam would still do a number on him.
We also don't know if GKG was near any supernovas, unlike, say, Spacegodzilla.
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Godzilla swims around in the bottom of the ocean, where it is very cold, and seems to function just fine.
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Godzilla swims around in the bottom of the ocean, where it is very cold, and seems to function just fine.
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True, but water functions a bit differently than air. Godzilla moves a lot more in the water which keeps the temperature up.
He is a lot slower on land. And not to mention, moving on ice and snow is not going to be easy.
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