Spacegodzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (Heisei)

[Daikaijuking]

they're both heisei monsters so they're the same height. Now...Lets get it on!!!!!!
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[anguirus55]

I think Spacegodzilla has this. *The Plasma Grenade just doesn't pack enough punch to floor SG with any rapidity, and this MG is useless up close. *Between the shield and the crystals, SG will pound MG to scrap given time.

[Aragorn_Strider22]

Uh, how can you say that? The Plasma Grenade is unarguably one of the strongest weapons of the Toho heisei series. If the grenades that Moguera had could destroy Spacegodzilla's crystals, then the Plasma Grenade(which will be used in this fight, as the Corona Beam would power it up IMO) would definately be able to do so.

The multitude of lasers/masers that Mechagodzilla 2 has will keep the crystals at bay, while the Corona Beam will only help SMG.

The only thing that Spacegodzilla has that will be able to harm Supermechagodzilla at all will be the Gravity Tornado, which Spacegodzilla seems to dislike using.

Overall, I believe that if Supermechagodzilla uses a couple of tactical strikes on Spacegodzilla's crystals, than it has a good chance of winning. Seeing as it's quite obvious that the crystals provide Spacegodzilla with energy, and these are competant pilots, there is a good chance that the pilots would go for the crystals.

[Saruman]

The Plasma Grenade easily has enough to floor SG, its one of the best Heisei weapons. But thats really here nor there.

This fight is going to come down to 2 things. 1.) Can SG use his shield to stop the paralyzer missiles? He showed that he wasnt inclined to use it against Mogueras Spiral Grenade missiles, so we dont realy know if it can stop those types of attacks. 2.) The G-Crusher? How will this weapon work against SG?

If the missiles and G-Crusher are effective, then I would say that SMG has the advantage. If not, then SG takes it easily.

[UltraGojira]

OH! Spacegodzilla is going to rip the cables out of Mechagodzilla for sure!

[anguirus55]

Unlike Godzilla, SG has a shield.  Like Goji, SG has the kind of regeneration that made the Plasma Grenade cause zero visible damage.  Crystal-flinging would also leave MG at rather a disadvantage.

Mechagodzilla would win but not before Spacegodzilla would give it his all

[Tomzilla]

This is a fight that is tough to decide. Maybe because currently I'm feeling tired, so I'll try to look at this fight in a different perspective when I'm awake. But until then, we'll see what happens...

Now, Mecha Godzilla's megabuster and eye lasers will do absolutely nothing in this fight. They're just beams that'll attempt to blaze through Space Godzilla's hide, but fail horribly. Space Godzilla's skin is, in my opinion, one of the strongest out of the entire Heisei Godzilla Villains. Mostly because it was able to take two spiral grenades and show no signs of damage. (That is, of course, reasonable because SG possesses rapid healing powers.)

I agree with Saruman that MG's plasma grenade will pack a punch. Would it floor Space Godzilla? I am leaning to the answer that 'yes', it would probably knock him down. But keep in mind, Godzilla a few times was able to remain standing before finally going down. Space Godzilla weighs a lot more and if the shield goes up, I have no doubt that as powerful as the plasma grenade may be, it'll reflect off the shield like all other rays would. (Not all, but you get the point.)

But I don't think it packs the power to blast off Space Godzilla's shoulder crystals. It took spiral grenade missiles to do the job and there's a huge difference between the penetrating power of the spiral grenade missile and a plasma grenade beam. Plasma grenade was designed strictly to pack enough power to floor the opponent. It does that well. Just you have to remember, the plasma grenade is in no position to get a good shot of the shoulder crystals period. Mecha Godzilla has one place to shoot at and that's at Space Godzilla's chest area. I don't recall MG bending back and firing it higher than Godzilla's head...correct me if I'm wrong.

Okay, what else?

Mecha Godzilla's shock anchors. Now, I'm skeptical if they'd breach Space Godzilla's shoulder crystals at all. They'd probably break the surface, but not pierce through the entire crystal. Least in my opinion. We've only seen them breach Godzilla's skin. It's up into thin air if Space Godzilla's shoulder crystals are physically harder. But I'll tell you this: for something that could injure Moguera on contact and literally "break" his leg after a mere scrape (was more than a mere scrape...), I assume they're pretty thick.

So then we have a paralysis missiles. I don't know what they'd do, really. Just they really didn't penetrate Godzilla's flesh and showed no real harm. I'll just side with whoever thinks they'd do nothing.

Now what can Space Godzilla do? His only real option is using his telekinesis. He actually used that a lot. No, I don't mean picking up opponents and throwing them around like rag dolls--though he's capable of doing that to MG whenever--I mean hovering in the air and using dozens of crystal missiles. But those crystal missiles won't really do anything, least in my eyes.

If anyone wants to see exactly what Space Godzilla's corona beams do, let me know. They're like daggers that take the form of energy. Strictly designed for penetration. Mecha Godzilla's armor will recieve damage from it, but also be injured at the same time. I imagine Space Godzilla's corona beam stabbing the armor and trying to rip it open, while being absorbed. So there will be damage inflicted, just not enough.

Also, about MG's anchor cables. If they embed somewhere else in Space Godzilla's body, I strongly believe that our blue space monster will be able to repeat exactly what Godzilla did in his battle with MG. Return the energy back to the source. Space Godzilla has shown to be well capable of releasing kinetic bolts from his fingers. Appears to be a master of his own power (when intact). If Godzilla can do it, then I'm sure a modified Godzilla (Space Godzilla) can do it too. Once that happens: Bad news for MG.

It'll come down to SG just using his amazing physical strength and mind. Never know, his tail blades might be able to penetrate the plasma grenade "barrel" and lift that sucker high into the air and toss him away.

All in all, we have a fight that'll last hours. But fighting Space Godzilla is like playing a game of Chess. In in this, between Space Godzilla and MG, Space Godzilla will be able to call a check mate on his mechanical counterpart...somewhat counterpart thing.

[PyrasTerran]

If the shock anchors embedded into the shoulder crystals, and SMG let loose, would there be a chance of an energy transfer malfunction and discharge against SG? There *might* be the possibility of such a thing..

[Tomzilla]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (PyrasTerran @ April 19 2004,20:49)]If the shock anchors embedded into the shoulder crystals, and SMG let loose, would there be a chance of an energy transfer malfunction and discharge against SG? There *might* be the possibility of such a thing..

There is a possibility. In yet, SG's shoulder crystals are what transfers the energy through out Space Godzilla's body, in and out. Why else do you think that whenever the crystals "gather" cosmic power, they transfer it directly to Space Godzilla's shoulder crystals. On his command, Space Godzilla just takes the energy from the crystals and uses it to his wim.

It's possible that if the shock cables embedded into Space Godzilla's shoulder crystals that if MG let loose, the electrical energies may return back to the source. Since Godzilla was able to do such a thing. Space Godzilla would likely do it as well. Especially when you're messing with his main power, where the energy flows everywhere. Of course, it may just electrocute SG--but then again, it may do what I said above. Really just up to how you look at it.

[PyrasTerran]

Yep. Another damn unsolved mystery.

[Melkor]

A little note, Mechagodzilla II equals the Mechagodzilla from 'Terror of Mechagodzilla'.

Anyway, this fight can go either way. Ultimately, Space Godzilla is just another Godzilla with a lot more firepower, which would make Heisei MechaGodzilla's Plasma grenades doubly devastating. However, SG does have the brute strength advantage [ recall how he threw MOGUERA with his tail like a rag doll; and MOGUERA is 10,000 tons heavier than SMG is! ], which I think would make him the victor here.



Peace,



Melkor

[BS Digital Q]

<font color='#810541'>ALL HAIL SPACE-GODZILLA

[kent]

Super Mechagodzilla. It has the cpapbilities to destroy the crystals which will pretty much decide SG's fate. SMG wins.

[G-Man3579]

I fail to see how the Corona beam could power up the Plasma Grenade... It always seemed more laser like than Goji's ray... Of course, Goji and SpaceG are clones, so... Also, what about the G-Crusher? Couldn't it, theoretically kill Spacie just like it killed Goji?

[PyrasTerran]

this isn't Super MechaGodzilla, it's the MechaGodzilla w/o Garuda(or is it?). I think the G Crusher was an add-on along with Garuda for SMG.

[Aragorn_Strider22]

I'll have to watch again, but I am fairly sure MG2 was able to use his cables without Garuda, didn't he use it before in their first battle?

[Daikaijuking]

yes he did.

[Husnock]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Aragorn_Strider22 @ April 20 2004,16:35)]I'll have to watch again, but I am fairly sure MG2 was able to use his cables without Garuda, didn't he use it before in their first battle?

Yep. &nbsp;The only difference is that they didn't have Miki guiding them the first fight, but they're basically the same weapon.

[Tomzilla]

Anyone think Space Godzilla has a second brain like Godzilla?

[anguirus55]

One that MG will be able to find easily? &nbsp;No. &nbsp;Remember, they had to stun Godzilla before the G-crusher could be deployed anyway.

It occurs to me that a flung crystal could open a breech in the armor for SG's beam to exploit.

[PyrasTerran]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Anyone think Space Godzilla has a second brain like Godzilla?

It's very possible, as both kaiju have very similar structures, SG's own merely added onto with crystals.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]One that MG will be able to find easily? &nbsp;No. &nbsp;Remember, they had to stun Godzilla before the G-crusher could be deployed anyway.

It occurs to me that a flung crystal could open a breech in the armor for SG's beam to exploit.

There's no saying MG can't do what he did to GOji to SpaceGoji, it's simply not as likely.

I doubt a flung crystal would do any damage.

[anguirus55]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]There's no saying MG can't do what he did to GOji to SpaceGoji, it's simply not as likely.

SG has a shield and is significantly stronger than Godzilla. &nbsp;MG lacks Garuda for this fight. &nbsp;If Godzilla can stomp the crap out of an unmodified Mechagodzilla, than so can SG.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]I doubt a flung crystal would do any damage.

Heisei MG is not well armored against physical impact. &nbsp;Wheber Godzilla and Rodan got close they dealt serious damage. &nbsp;SG doesn't even have to get close for physical impacts. &nbsp;Heck, he could just telekinetically slam him into something.

[G-Man3579]

The bottom line is if MG can hook up the GCrusher, he wins. If he can't, wave bye bye to MG.

[BS Digital Q]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (G-Man3579 @ April 20 2004,22:44)]The bottom line is if MG can hook up the GCrusher, he wins. If he can't, wave bye bye to MG.

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