04. Heisei Mothra (Adult) vs. Kamacuras (GFW)

[Battle Master]

Heisei Mothra (Adult)
vs.
Kamacuras (GFW)
-
Battlefield: New York City

[Burkion]

Well, on one hand, Kammy is far, far, far, far, far, far superior to Mothra in the air in every way ever.

On the other, Mothra needs to only catch Kammy once or twice and blast her down.

[alienhulk2099]

It's basically a test of speed against strength, that said I'm leaning toward Heisei Mothra by very little only due to beam spams.

[Zardac the Great]

Kamacuras' one observed method of attack is high speed ambush.

He'll land the first strike, and it's possible that he could behead his prey, or rip Mothra's wings, but I find myself doubting that he'll win on the first strike.

He might try to hide again, but I'm thinking that would be a bad move. His best strategy is to stay on Mothra like stink on a cow pie.

The problem is, we don't know if he does that.

[Mindfreak]

Originally Posted by Zardac the Great

Kamacuras' one observed method of attack is high speed ambush.

He'll land the first strike, and it's possible that he could behead his prey, or rip Mothra's wings, but I find myself doubting that he'll win on the first strike.

He might try to hide again, but I'm thinking that would be a bad move. His best strategy is to stay on Mothra like stink on a cow pie.

The problem is, we don't know if he does that.

Then again, this is NYC they're fighting in. Kammy has plenty of places to hide from Mothra, if that's the strategy he goes for. Then again, we dont know if he'll use that strategy or not, and if he does, Mothra can fly, making finding him a bit easier. And those beams could be very bad for Kams.

[Zardac the Great]

Oops. Didn't see the battlefield...

The mantis showed some really uber camo skills. Any reason to think they wouldn't work in an urban environment?

[Husnock]

This is quite a matchup. Kammy has a neat-o camouflage trick, and is blazing fast.

However, Mothra has the staying power in her corner. And lotsa beamage.

Abstain for now...

[TitanGojira]

Admittedly, it's been a while since I've seen Godzilla vs. Mothra, but...

Mothra is in no way fast enough to avoid Kamacuras' lightning-speed attack. And I think it's safe to say that, had Godzilla not grabbed and tossed Kammy, the next part of his plan was going to be "Slice with my giant mantis scythes." And I can't see Mothra reacting well to that. Her wings (or face) would be torn to shreds by those claws.

Yes, if she zapped him with her beams, it might hurt him, but could she do it fast enough, before he hit her? I just don't see it.

Winner: Kamacuras (GFW)

[The Great MM]

Mothra takes this. Why? Because just like virtually every other FW kaiju, Kamacuras is an idiot fighter. Sure, he may have the speed to do all this fancy stuff: But he doesn't have the intellegence to.

He's going to fly straight toward Mothra. And I don't recall Mothra's beams ever being slow to fire.

One beam will not kill Kammy, but it will slow him down. And if Kammy tries that whole "I'll land on you and bash (not slice) you with my claws!" trick, Mothra has that nifty pollen and wing lightning which would simply fry Kamacuras.

[Tomzilla]

Originally Posted by The Great MM

Mothra takes this. Why? Because just like virtually every other FW kaiju, Kamacuras is an idiot fighter. Sure, he may have the speed to do all this fancy stuff: But he doesn't have the intellegence to.

Kamacuras doesn't have the intelligence to use its incredible speed to fly straight into Mothra like it did to Godzilla? Kamacuras isn't smart enough to use its claws? Kamacuras isn't smart enough to use its camouflage?

I'm not following your logic. Are you saying Kamacuras isn't smart enough to utilize the strategies it utilized in the movie?

He's going to fly straight toward Mothra. And I don't recall Mothra's beams ever being slow to fire.

How often did this Mothra fire its beams at kaiju flying straight at her? If Mothra pulled off a direct hit with her beams, Kamacuras is toast. But Mothra rarely used her beams, especially against opponents colliding into her face.

I do agree with the last part of your post though. The moment Kamacuras starts hacking away, Mothra is bound to release her pollen, and electrocute the preying mantis to death.

[The Great MM]

Kamacuras doesn't have the intelligence to use its incredible speed to fly straight into Mothra like it did to Godzilla? Kamacuras isn't smart enough to use its claws? Kamacuras isn't smart enough to use its camouflage?

I'm not following your logic. Are you saying Kamacuras isn't smart enough to utilize the strategies it utilized in the movie?

- Yeah. STRAIGHT into Mothra. He's not going to be buzzing around like Megaguirus. Depending on how far the two are from each other at the start of the match, Kammy get's a face full of beam.
- Even when he was perched ontop of the Eclair, he wasn't slicing with his slicing weapons, he was bashing. What's that tell you?
- Kammy's camo is the only thing he used to an advantage... And I don't see it helping much since he doesn't have any beam weapon and his only battle tactic is to fly right at an opponent and, from what we seen with Eclair, land. Mothra has her own defenses for that.

How often did this Mothra fire its beams at kaiju flying straight at her? If Mothra pulled off a direct hit with her beams, Kamacuras is toast. But Mothra rarely used her beams, especially against opponents colliding into her face.

Mothra is 20,000 tons.
Kamacuras is 20,000 tons.

Mothra's top flight speed is Mach 3. Kamacuras' is unknown (last I checked, could be wrong), but still really freaking fast. Let us assume they crash together with Mothra going a bit slower 'cause it really doesn't look like she flies that fast regularly.

That would hurt them both just the same if they crashed into one another. And given that Mothra has taken more punishment from Godzilla and Battra, I'd say that a head-on like that would be worse for Kamacuras long before it would for Mothra. She'd no doubt have one nasty headache.

But that's assuming the pair and that close at the start of the fight. When I imagine these battles, I tend to think they're like... a good ways apart. If Kammy has a distance to close, Mothra's going to blast him.

[Raptor]

It's New York City. Kam heads for town to avoid the beam blasts and tries to hide among the scenery. Beam blasts bring down a handy building in a pile of rubble and bug parts that gets a proper toasting. Mayor gets the heat.

Winner: Mothra (Heisei)

[KaijuKing]

I haven't seen GFW, but the descriptions of Kamacuras' fighting style I've read haven't impressed me. Mothra could most likely take this through superior firepower.

Winner: Mothra.

[Orga777]

Going with GFW Kamacuras here. Kam has all the skill in the world to handle Mothra who is just too slow in the air to catch Kamacuras off guard. She also lacks extra-sensory garbage that GFW Godzilla seems to have to find him hidden while in camo.

Also, I don't see Mothra reacting well or flying well if Kamacuras gets on top of her like he did against the Eclaire. Mothra will go down hard if that happens. And then the mantis eats the moth like usual.

[Hybrid Gojira]

Abstain. Kammy has all the tools in the world to tear Mothra to pieces, but Mothra is very smart and has so many beams it is absurd. Depending on how the battle starts, one has a distinct advantage - Kammy up close; Mothra at distance.

[Super Angillas]

Depends too much on how good Kammy is on his first strike. I'm gonna give this one to to Mothra though, she was able to go several rounds with Battra and Hesei Godzilla, whereas Kammy is less durable than Show Godzilla's crotch.

[Zardac the Great]

Actually...

Bashing the ship may be a sign of intense intelligence.

After all, it likely did more damage than trying to slice it open with no velocity.

Currently undecided.

[Super Angillas]

But you know that if it had been Megalon bashing the ship, you'd be talking about how dumb he is.

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by Super Angillas

But you know that if it had been Megalon bashing the ship, you'd be talking about how dumb he is.

Megalon isn't even smart enough to do that right.

[Seer235]

He'd try to eat it, clearly. Drill or gun first, if possible.

[Mindfreak]

Originally Posted by Seer235

He'd try to eat it, clearly. Drill or gun first, if possible.

Because everyone know those parts taste the best.

Anyways, I'm going to abstain on this one. Kammy is quick enough to get a couple decent attacks on Mothra, but on the other side of the coin, Mothra has enough beamage to take out Kammy if he makes too many mistakes. Really, this all would really come down to if Kammy gets a sneak attack in first.

[Seer235]

Originally Posted by Mindfreak

Because everyone know those parts taste the best.

Don't knock it til you've tried it.

[Zardac the Great]

Actually, I would, because Megalon has a better attack for the ship than bashing it. If he could hit it with the tips of his drill (piercing attack) it would probably be more effective than just bashing.

[Burkion]

See, that'd be neat, if we ever saw him drill ANYTHING that wasn't dirt.