Super Godzilla vs. Iris, GKG, and SpaceG

[UltraGojira]

Well, we all know that Super Godzilla is an ultimate powerhouse, but if he did stop Bagan, can he stop all of the three powerhouses (Iris, Grand King Ghidorah, and Spacegodzilla)?

Note: All monsters are 100 meters tall.

[Zigra]

There really isn't much to say here.

Irys won't stand a chance. SuperG's energy fist is a lot like Gamera's plasma fist, and will most likely take Irys out just as easily. The only difference between the energy fist and the plasma fist is that SuperG can wield it freely whenever he chooses.

None of these opponents are even close to SNES Bagan in power, not even together. I don't see how they can take Super Godzilla, the DBZ kaiju, down.

[PyrasTerran]

Zigra, the plasma fist only worked because it exploded inside Irys. Super G's energy fist would have to do the same to get the same effect.

And the energy fist isn't all that strong, it is basically a stronger punch with good reach and speed.

This is a tough match in my eyes, we have 3 of some of the most powerful kaiju villians against one of the undisputed most powerful heroes.

However, for all of Super G's power, he still isn't that fast.

If Irys, GKG and SG work together, they can bring down the powerhouse, though likely not a kill, most likely a knockout.

After all, Irys, Grand Ghidorah *and* SpaceGodzilla all shooting their beams at the same time must count for something. Especially since the three of them have impeccable aim. And hit multiple targets.

As for a strategy, one good one would be for Irys and Grand Ghidorah to stall Super G, leaving SpaceG to start harvesting space for a crystal field.

At the same time, they're contending with the fastest and strongest Godzilla around. Granted, a Godzilla with no combat-effective regeneration, but super-powerful nonetheless.

This would make for a good story..

[Zigra]

Uh, Pyras, when is the last time you played "Super Godzilla"? Yes, Super Godzilla is fast. He runs whenever he does his body slam (which causes a powerful explosion upon whatever he hits).

Tomzilla already demonstrated how Super Godzilla's normal punch is powerful enough to do serious damage to these guys. It can knock Bagan (who, although I can't remember his exact weight offhand, weighs more than any of these guys) clear across the screen! Tomzilla admitted that that alone is more than enough to shatter Spacegodzilla's shoulder crystals (making it rather pointless for him to build a crystal field).

Then there's SuperG's projectile attacks. Not only does he have a breath weapon that puts Heisei Goji's red spiral beam to shame, but he has a chest beam which, while perhaps not quite as powerful, is easily comparable to Gamera's mana beam. The difference, once again, is that Super Goji can use the chest beam very freely whenever and however often he wishes. Making a clean sweap with either of these is more than enough to take care of the job (including wiping out any crystal field Spacegodzilla produces).

Plus, Super Goji can form a powerful energy sphere from his tail (! ) that he can blast at any opponents that attack him from behind.

After all, Irys, Grand Ghidorah *and* SpaceGodzilla all shooting their beams at the same time must count for something. Especially since the three of them have impeccable aim. And hit multiple targets.

You're assuming that any of those beams would do much. I might give some thought to SpaceG's corona beam because of how it can pierce armor, but I don't know about the others. But still, I don't think it will matter. Once SuperG begins unloading his arsenal in return, I don't think any of these guys will last very long.

[PyrasTerran]

And Irys' beam can't pierce armor?? It already showed it can.

I still stand by it going either way, Super G has no regeneration on his side in this so a constant barrage of beams before he gets a chance to attack will begin to add up.

Also, all three of these villians fly. Something no ammount of running can bypass.

This was a well-thoughout fight, in my opinion. With the right teamwork, the villians can win, but if they grow careless, SuperG can pick them off.

[Zigra]

Originally Posted by PyrasTerran

I still stand by it going either way, Super G has no regeneration on his side in this so a constant barrage of beams before he gets a chance to attack will begin to add up.

Once again, it's very iffy that their beams are powerful enough do any fatal damage to him. Even then, the only way that scenerio would work is if SuperG simply sat back and did nothing in return. His arsenal is more than powerful enough to cause fatal damage to each of these guys in one shot, if not kill them outright.

Also, all three of these villians fly. Something no ammount of running can bypass.

So? You act like SuperG can't hit airborne targets. Remember the UFOs?

Plus, I'm still standing by what I said earlier. Super Goji's punches are good enough alone to cause serious damage to these guys. So what if Gamera had to hit Irys on the inside with his plasma fist to kill her? You mean SuperG can't slam his energy fist into Irys' chest?

This was a well-thoughout fight, in my opinion. With the right teamwork, the villians can win, but if they grow careless, SuperG can pick them off.

On the contrary, the only way the villians are winning this fight is if Supergodzilla gets careless and doesn't use his arsenal against them.

[Cole Deschain]

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I'm getting really tired of seeing these ridiculous powerhouses trotted out every five minutes.

[Zigra]

I agree. I wish people would just stop trying to "test" these powerhouses and just accept the fact that they are powerhouses.

[PyrasTerran]

Once again, it's very iffy that their beams are powerful enough do any fatal damage to him. Even then, the only way that scenerio would work is if SuperG simply sat back and did nothing in return. His arsenal is more than powerful enough to cause fatal damage to each of these guys in one shot, if not kill them outright.

But these villians are the kind of kaiju that you have to destroy their bodies pretty much to defeat them. And I know flat out none of these kaiju can kill Super G, not even together. I'm talking about a KO, not a kill. Just like when I argue a kaiju can defeat Destroyah, I don't talk about killing it unless freezing or SUPER-hot abilities are in play..

So? You act like SuperG can't hit airborne targets. Remember the UFOs?

Plus, I'm still standing by what I said earlier. Super Goji's punches are good enough alone to cause serious damage to these guys. So what if Gamera had to hit Irys on the inside with his plasma fist to kill her? You mean SuperG can't slam his energy fist into Irys' chest?

The energy fist isn't made to explode. It's made to pack more of a punch.

And I'm not saying Super G can't hit airborne targets, but he can't focus on all three at once.

On the contrary, the only way the villians are winning this fight is if Supergodzilla gets careless and doesn't use his arsenal against them.

I accept that you believe this.

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I'm getting really tired of seeing these ridiculous powerhouses trotted out every five minutes.

I agree. I wish people would just stop trying to "test" these powerhouses and just accept the fact that they are powerhouses.

It is true that it is kinda annoying..

At the same time, there are people who simply do not flat out know just how powerful kaiju like Super Godzilla, Bagan, Armor Mothra, Guilala and Majin are.

[SuperGodzillaF1]

pyras terran bagan is 280,000 tons

irys plus goji's death fist equals dead irys case closed. don't even say he can't use his speed cuz when he uses plasma fist he littarly flies at really fast speeds towrds the enemy and punches them

now for space g

the nova beam will shatter all his crystals and body when fired because of the magnitude of energy being released


and for grand ghidorah

the naval beam will zap him off the face of the earth in one hit

[Burkion]

Um.....Super Godzilla CAN fly. That's right. One little neato feater you get with the big glowing punch o doom.

[bloodyarts]

Originally Posted by PyrasTerran

It is true that it is kinda annoying..

At the same time, there are people who simply do not flat out know just how powerful kaiju like Super Godzilla, Bagan, Armor Mothra, Guilala and Majin are.

You're right about that. I know Super Godzilla and Bagan come from that Super Nintendo Super Godzilla game, but it bored me to tears whenever I tried to play it. Needless to say, I've never seen those two in action. Still, I get tired of seeing Bagan's name thrown around as this "invincible demon" or whatever.

Anyway, as far as I know, Super Godzilla and Bagan are not canon, so I normally sigh and turn the other way when I see their names come up (especially Bagan).

Armor Mothra I know.

As for Guilala and Majin, I've never seen their movies. Guilala just looked too ridiculous for me to take seriously. I had no idea he was some kind of unbeatable force. Majin I have nothing against, just never got around to seeing his movies. He didn't look all that impressive to me, but I would like to see him in action.

Do these guys have stats I can look at? Just what do they do that makes them so superior to the normal kaiju brood?

[Cole Deschain]

They have stats on this very site. Check out the Rodan's Roost "Kaiju stats" section.

Guilala, for the record, simply absorbs any energy thrown at him and shoots it right back. He's annoyingly powerful for a space chicken.

[bloodyarts]

Originally Posted by Cole Deschain

Guilala, for the record, simply absorbs any energy thrown at him and shoots it right back. He's annoyingly powerful for a space chicken.

Just checked out Guilala's and Majin's stats;

I respect Guilala's abilities, but dammit, I still don't like the guy.

Majin, on the other hand, DAMN!! Now I have to see these movies immediately! He sounds pretty awesome. I wish he had a huge sword to go with that outfit, but hell, creating earthquakes, opening fissures which lead straight to hell (let's see you walk out of that, Godzilla!), parting seas, skewering puny humans... hell yeah, he rocks (no pun intended).

Has Majin ever been challenged, by ANYTHING?? He's never gone up against weaponry like tanks, missiles, masers and the like, right? I know it wouldn't matter, he'd just walk right thru it like most kaiju, but I just wonder if all his movies take place in feudal or medieval Japan...?

[PyrasTerran]

Irys plus goji's death fist equals dead irys case closed.

Again, the energy fist isn't made to explode. It'll punch a hole in Irys, no doubt, but if it doesn't blow up inside, it won't kill him yet.

pyras terran bagan is 280,000 tons

...Not sure why that's important, but okay.

Um.....Super Godzilla CAN fly. That's right. One little neato feater you get with the big glowing punch o doom.

That's not flying, that's lunging.

You're right about that. I know Super Godzilla and Bagan come from that Super Nintendo Super Godzilla game, but it bored me to tears whenever I tried to play it. Needless to say, I've never seen those two in action. Still, I get tired of seeing Bagan's name thrown around as this "invincible demon" or whatever.

I admit it's been some time since I've played all the way through, or played at all. Perhaps I'll look into that level skip to see the end.

[Husnock]

Originally Posted by PyrasTerran

...Not sure why that's important, but okay.

I think he was trying to tell you that if that one attack of Super G's can send such an incredibly heavy creature (even for a Kaiju) tumbling end-over-end (okay, not literally...) across the screen, then it might and probably will wreak havoc on any one of these three smaller, weaker, and much lighter opponents.

The "Terrible Trio" aren't the only ones here who are able to win via KO, Pyras. It also applies to the other team, ya know...

[SuperGodzillaF1]

well actually i looked at super goji's uber punch and well if he lunges that fast and that far he' can jump REALLY GOOD. so i think one of the monsters id oned almost immediatly, this is how i think the fight goes, Godzilla aims nova beam and grand ghidorah, buh bye ghids

next irys not know the extent of super godzilla power will blindy charge in hoping to destroy godzilla he will pummel the #$^%$# out of irys in no time flat, 2 down, next super godzilla will power up his Naval Beam and rip thorugh the crystals, sheild and body od space godzilla, CASE CLOSED

[RobDowneyJr]

The concern with this match is that we have never seen super Godzilla fight, except for Bagan or MechaGhidorah if you take that route. And Bagan has never fought anyone so there is very little comparison, and only speculation

[EternalMothra]

Can Super Godzilla's beam pass through GKG's energy shield? That is the question.