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R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Old July 31st, 2004, 09:38 PM
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Default R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus

SHADOW (ALPHA)
VS
GORJIRUS

Shadow: "I am your king. Fear me, mortal!"
Gorjirus: "A human construct? How pathetic."

Shadow (Alpha): 3
Gorjirus: 1
Abstain: 0

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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Old July 31st, 2004, 10:19 PM
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Winner: Shadow

Shadow has many a weapon at his disposal to wreak havoc upon Gorjirus and he shall use them. One of which is his speed, Gorjirus will find it difficult to hit a speeding Shadow, he will try to but find it hard to.

Another factor is his shield, He will be able to block many an attack from Gorjirus, will continuing to fire at him.

The blaster. Gorjirus' armor cannot be breached by normal bullet or sword. Well, Shadow's blaster does not fire bullets, his weapon is plasma (energy) based. So he can continually blast away at him until he breaks through, or he can take the easy route. By littering the field with nerve gas, making it impossible for Gorjirus to beath without him falling on the ground and twitching. He can also use a lightining elemental attack and breach the mettalic armour, frying him internally and messing up his weapons system.

Shadow wins because of these factors, sorry Gorjirus.
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Old August 1st, 2004, 10:03 PM
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Winner: Gorjirus

First off, don't forget one important fact your SHIELD is the same thing as MY ENTIRE BODY (Gorjiran Alloy).

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Another question.

Is Shadow's sheild and my armor made of the same substance, Gorjiran alloy?


Yup. Gojirian alloy is basically the primary metal of the RF universe.
So if a
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normal bullet or sword
won't do anything to my armor, but energy will apparently allow people to
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breaks through
. And what is are my Chi Balls? ENERGY. And since your shield is smaller in area, it will only be able block so much and take less damage before my attack
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breaks through
.

Even though TRIEZE said that
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His shield cannot be broken because it is made of Gojirian alloy
So I guess you CAN'T break through my armor.

Another thing about the shield is that it can only cover so much with it's limited area. I know that the missles can fly around with freedom, and the Chi Balls might be able to as well (I do not know for sure). So, while your sheild blocks one part, the missles can hit your unprotected area (since your entire body isn't made of Gorjiran Alloy, damage can be done, with no regeneration.) So, I can bombard you're body, and you will take damage. And don't forget, the Photon Cannon would be large enough to envelope your shield (and can be used multiple times).

Now, onto your Speed. You are only two points ahead of me, so it isn't like you will have blinding speed. I will still be able to follow you. And with my ingrained
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system that allows him to calculate a foe's abilities
, I will know how fast you are and be able to attack occordingly. And it isn't like the missles can follow you until they stop. They could SWARM you.

Now, the blaster.

You said:
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Well, Shadow's blaster does not fire bullets, his weapon is plasma (energy) based. So he can continually blast away at him until he breaks through
. Well, that fails because
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His shield cannot be broken because it is made of Gojirian alloy
.

Nerve gas. Well, it might work, but it could be blown away by most attacks, and it would AFFECT YOU TOO! Don't forget that. It doesn't say anything about you being immune.

Lightning. Well, it might work, if the suit isn't insullated. Or that I dodge it (not as likely). But I can deflect it with Chi Balls. Remeber that demon minion wall you talked about your original form doing? I can do that too. So, I guess that takes care of that, as the lightning could not go through Chi.

Sorry, but I can wear you down, and a Photon Cannon Shot would envelope you, thus Ko'ing you for a victory for me!

Another point.

It is possible that I would trick you into using your Big Bang Shot too early, by using the aforementioned computer system. (Even though this is the most unlikely of the scenarios). Then, I could possibly dodge the entire thing, partially dodge it and take some "damage", or take the entire blast since
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cannot be broken because it is made of Gojirian alloy
. You would be spent, and, though I might be weakend, it is safe to assume I would have more gas left in the engine than you. Thus, I could easily finish you off.
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 11:19 AM
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The biggest difference between my energy and your energy is, that I can produce my own, through a reactor in my body (ask any megaman fan), whilst you have to use your own "life force" for that is what chi is. So I can pound about on you while you exhaust yourself using your chi. Another thing is that I have the abilty to charge up my attack making a bigger, more powerful attack.

Your Photon Cannon is a finishing move, much like my Big Bang Shot, meaning that we would only use those attacks at the end of a battle, I definintly wouldn't use mine right off the bat, for I would be drained.

My shield is not as small as you think neither. Please feel free to check out sprites, and you will find that it covers a good amount of my body width and length wise. You must also not that your entire body is not covered in Metal, that way Warmachine (you) could move easier, like the joints and such are made foa different material, giving you weak spots as well.

Also not that your missles do not hone in or heat seek. They do not lock on so once they leave the launcher, it flies in a straight path. This also means I can side step it. And I'm definintly not going to stand still long enough for you to "bombard" me. So if you did use a combination of Chi and missles you would be exhausting yourself, using your life force, and your limited amount of missles (I doubt your suit manufactures missles).

Your system has you calculate how YOU will adjust to my abilities, that means that you will try to fight on my level or a little higher if you can.

Trick me? I doubt it since I have a higher intelligence than you. So that would be pretty hard.

How do you know that the nerve gas will affect me? Since my brain was transfered into a NON-ORGANIC body. (Protoman is a humaniod robot) That being that I have no organic nerves to be affected.

I can also use a variety of elemental attacks if I wished too, lightning, FLAMETHROWER (your metal gets hot, and affects how strong it is), Tornado (if you try to get ariel, I blow you out of the air).

Your photon Cannon (like I said before) is a finishing attack, and once you use it i doibt that your suit will have enough strength to do another, It is about the size of Ryu's Shinku Hadoken, so it's not like it will fill up the entire arena, And I can Dodge it too, because of the size of the cannon, Warmachine (you) is not able to move, so I can move out of the way, and pop up behind you while you are still managing it's size. Piont blank attacks, and There is an easy victory for me.

And lastly my speed, I'm not going to stand around waiting for you to attack me, You are going to be blocking, trying to keep up with my pace.
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 12:44 PM
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The biggest difference between my energy and your energy is, that I can produce my own, through a reactor in my body (ask any megaman fan), whilst you have to use your own "life force" for that is what chi is. So I can pound about on you while you exhaust yourself using your chi. Another thing is that I have the abilty to charge up my attack making a bigger, more powerful attack.
So, you have a reactor in your body? So. It still has to have a fuel or energy source. Or have you forgotten all the matter and energy laws that they taught us in ICP? This is a GODZILLA site. We know all about internal reactors (ask any knowledgable G fan). So, if it is life force, shouldn't I be able to make it? Since I am alive? You know, like a reactor? I don't think that it is possible to run out (Unless Trieze says differently). And why couldn't I charge up my own life energy?

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Your Photon Cannon is a finishing move, much like my Big Bang Shot, meaning that we would only use those attacks at the end of a battle, I definintly wouldn't use mine right off the bat, for I would be drained.
Which is why I said it would be an unlikely scenario. But, that doesn't mean that I could nopt use a quick Photon Cannon blast, like Trieze said is possible. Which mean, I can use my "finishing move" more than once, unlike you. Which means, I can use it anytime in the battle, why you could not.

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My shield is not as small as you think neither. Please feel free to check out sprites, and you will find that it covers a good amount of my body width and length wise. You must also not that your entire body is not covered in Metal, that way Warmachine (you) could move easier, like the joints and such are made foa different material, giving you weak spots as well.
One, it still doesn't cover your entire body. Two, you are using SPRITES for evidince? Three, don't forget that WE ARE NOT CARBON COPIES. I doubt any resource would tell you that Warmachine's armor is made of Gorjiran Alloy. Why? Because it is something Trieze invented. How do you know that the "different material" isn't Gorjiran Alloy? I mean, let's find an example. I know! Mecha Godzilla. His entire body (Showa and Heisei versions) was made of the same substance, and he was mobile. The joints were made of the same material. So, it is most liekly the same with me. And by going with that thought, YOUR ENTIRE BODY IS A WEAK SPOT.

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Also not that your missles do not hone in or heat seek. They do not lock on so once they leave the launcher, it flies in a straight path. This also means I can side step it. And I'm definintly not going to stand still long enough for you to "bombard" me. So if you did use a combination of Chi and missles you would be exhausting yourself, using your life force, and your limited amount of missles (I doubt your suit manufactures missles).
Possibly. Though I see no evidence of this, and don't forget that we aren't carbon copies. And you are only two points ahead of me in speed. It isn't like I can't track you. And according to your Original Shadow vs DEP, speed doesn't matter much at all. I can make the Chi Balls track you. And I see no evidence that I only have a certain amount of missles. In my profile, it doesn't say anything about a set number of missles, so according to Trieze, there is no limit.

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Your system has you calculate how YOU will adjust to my abilities, that means that you will try to fight on my level or a little higher if you can.
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him to calculate a foe's abilities and stats. Therefore all of his attacks are based solely on his opponent's capabilities
It doesn't say anything about fighting on a different level. I attack based on YOUR abilities. In other words, I FIND YOUR WEAKNESSES.

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Trick me? I doubt it since I have a higher intelligence than you. So that would be pretty hard.
You are only one intelligence point above me. It isn't like it is an impossible task, since you are
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arrogant and thick-headed
. So, it is very likely that I could pull off what you would call a "trick".

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How do you know that the nerve gas will affect me? Since my brain was transfered into a NON-ORGANIC body. (Protoman is a humaniod robot) That being that I have no organic nerves to be affected.
Because the brain has NERVES (You can look anywhere and find that information). Gee, and what does NERVE gas do? AFFECT NERVES. And there must be something that keeps your brain functioning, like OXYGEN, so I guess you would have to BREATH in the AIR that has NERVE GAS. And just because you are a robot doesn't mean that you dont have lungs and other such artificial organs.

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I can also use a variety of elemental attacks if I wished too, lightning, FLAMETHROWER (your metal gets hot, and affects how strong it is), Tornado (if you try to get ariel, I blow you out of the air).
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lightning
Already explained how that is useless.

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FLAMETHROWER
How do you know it gets hot? Who knows how hot it must be to even begin to warm it? It might not even be felt. And since your flamethrower is that hot, and it doesn't hurt you, which means that metal is strong enough to take it, but isn't Gorjiran Alloy, how in the world is it supposed to hurt me?

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Tornado
A somewhat useful attack. It would throw me around, but would it even do damage when I land? It might wind me, whoop-de-do.

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Your photon Cannon (like I said before) is a finishing attack, and once you use it i doibt that your suit will have enough strength to do another, It is about the size of Ryu's Shinku Hadoken, so it's not like it will fill up the entire arena, And I can Dodge it too, because of the size of the cannon, Warmachine (you) is not able to move, so I can move out of the way, and pop up behind you while you are still managing it's size. Piont blank attacks, and There is an easy victory for me.
Uh, guess what? Trieze said I CAN use it more than once. And it is still large enough to envelope you. Oh, and don't you know that Photon Shots can TRACK objects? And who says I can't move? Managing it's size? I can make a large shot, shoot it, and it will track you. And how are point blank attacks supposed to work any better? Easy Victory? You wish.

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And lastly my speed, I'm not going to stand around waiting for you to attack me, You are going to be blocking, trying to keep up with my pace.
Ah yes. The blinding amazing speed of only two points higher! You must be the Flash! It isn't going to be that hard to
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keep up with my pace
. I can track you, my attacks can track you, and I might block while I am attacking, and the attacks won't even do that much!

As I have said, if I attack you, you are going to be damaged and you don't have "regeneration" to fall back upon. You will take damage and keep damage. Your shield will block some attacks, I give you that. But you can't defend your entire body. So, if an attack swarms you, like Chi Balls, you will block some, not all, and any hit leads to another.

So, a victory for me. Not an easy one, but a victory.
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 03:36 PM
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Shadow. He is a little better then Gojirus in everything but acrobatics but they're so close that it comes down to who has the most devistating attacks and Shadow's Rose Bomb plus his Big Bang Shot really take the cheese on that one. I'm sorry Gojirus but I doubt that that skin tight area around your legs is alloy-protected and once your legs are gone you're gonna get killed by the Big Bang.
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Winner: Shadow

It's true that Gorjirus's armor protect him from many attacks, but so does Shadow's shield. Plus, most of Gorjirus's attacks are long distance, and because Shadow is so fast, he would be able to easily dodge and attack Gorjirus. And the attacks that gorjirus could land on Shadow could be blocked by Shadow's shield.
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Re: R3 #4: Shadow (Alpha) vs Gorjirus
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Time is up.

The winner: Shadow (Alpha)

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