Heisei Gamera vs GMK Ghidorah

Kaiju_Sensai · #1 August 18th, 2004, 03:38 PM

Just to let you know Ghidorah has the Mothra power-up. So what do ya think.

anguirus55 · #2 August 18th, 2004, 04:46 PM

If Ghidorah starts with the Mothra power-up, then he fires the spirit ball into Gamera, blasting superheated green blood over a 2-mile radius and decorating buildings with Gamera chunks. Gamera staggers, reeling, then gets to his feet and blows Ghidorah away.

Aragorn_Strider22 · #3 August 21st, 2004, 12:05 PM

Unless Gamera has some wacked up Spiritual resistance that I haven't heard of, or unless the Spirit Bomb is mainly heat based, he isn't going to be getting up after being hit by it.

HolyGoji777 · #4 August 21st, 2004, 12:17 PM

well considering that gmk ghidorah imo is WEAK ill have to go with gamera on this one.

RexRaptor · #5 August 21st, 2004, 02:35 PM

This can easly go either way. Im guessing the Spirit Ball will blast gammera into chunks of turtle meat.

anguirus55 · #6 August 21st, 2004, 05:14 PM

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Unless Gamera has some wacked up Spiritual resistance that I haven't heard of, or unless the Spirit Bomb is mainly heat based, he isn't going to be getting up after being hit by it.

It isn't too much nastier than a few doses of Legion's beam. And the MASSIVE fireball it creates will speed Gamera's recovery from the impact.

Super Angillas · #7 August 21st, 2004, 07:59 PM

From what I saw of it, most of the spirit balls power was pushing back GMK Goji. Considering Gamera was at ground zero of an explosion that was equivelent to a nuke, and that His body was intact, if Very charred, they means he can take pysical damage very well.

Poor GMK Ghidorah. He got blown up when GMK Goji pulled a new power out his ---.
Hard to call. But I give this to Gamera. GMK Ghidora Gets one good hit, and when that fails, He's turtle chow.

Angiru-San · #8 August 21st, 2004, 08:37 PM

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From what I saw of it, most of the spirit balls power was pushing back GMK Goji. Considering Gamera was at ground zero of an explosion that was equivelent to a nuke, and that His body was intact, if Very charred, they means he can take pysical damage very well.

Poor GMK Ghidorah. He got blown up when GMK Goji pulled a new power out his ---.
Hard to call. But I give this to Gamera. GMK Ghidora Gets one good hit, and when that fails, He's turtle chow.

He didnt pull it out of his @$$, this Godzilla incarnation had that power all along, and had no use for it until the Spirit Bomb was approaching. Thats like watching GvsMG and going *~*This is bull, Godzilla isnt magnetic, he pulled that out of his @$$, what a Gay Godzilla Incarnation*~*. Underating a kaiju is just as rediculous as the GMK fanboys.

Gamera still takes this, easily, IMO. Doesnt Gamera feed off of Mana, and isnt Mana a form of energy flowing from the Earth and its life?

Super Angillas · #9 August 22nd, 2004, 07:09 PM

Considdering that a previous movie in that series had shown Godzilla to be vunerable to electricity, It was pulled out the ***. Well their was a scene in Vs Seamonster with electicity waking Godzilla. Still the electromagnitism at least had a sequence setting up for it, with Godzilla absorbing the lightning. The absorbition of GMK Ghidorahs Volts was just out of the blue.

PyrasTerran · #10 August 22nd, 2004, 07:14 PM

If the spirit-ball didn't blow Godzilla away(as in kill him) I doubt it will do the same to Gamera..

Excelsior · #11 August 23rd, 2004, 02:12 PM

If Gamera can get airborne, then there's really no contest. He's much faster than KG and the Spirit Bomb would miss him by a literal mile. But even on the ground, Heisei Gamera is one of the toughest and most determined kaiju put on film. He'd persevere until he got the job done.

PyrasTerran · #12 August 23rd, 2004, 03:56 PM

Unlike a certain super robot

((I still don't know why that thread was locked..))

anguirus55 · #13 August 23rd, 2004, 04:12 PM

^ Spite? My guess.

Excelsior · #14 August 23rd, 2004, 08:23 PM

O/T - Jebus, Pyras, Irys just winked at me. That's creepy.

Anyway, I really think Gamera's just too much for GMK KG to handle. Hand to hand (or claw to neck), Gamera's simply superior. KG has no real defense against such a savage combatant.

At range? I don't honestly know who's better. Gamera's plasma fireballs pack a hell of a punch, but even without the Spirit Bomb, KG might have the edge. His gravity bolts were absolutely savage looking, up until Godzilla drank 'em like Gatorade.

anguirus55 · #15 August 23rd, 2004, 08:39 PM

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His gravity bolts were absolutely savage looking, up until Godzilla drank 'em like Gatorade.

He ain't got them in this fight.

PyrasTerran · #16 August 24th, 2004, 02:27 PM

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O/T - Jebus, Pyras, Irys just winked at me. That's creepy.

'Animated that avatar myself.

Gorjirus · #17 August 24th, 2004, 03:30 PM

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Considering Gamera was at ground zero of an explosion that was equivelent to a nuke, and that His body was intact, if Very charred, they means he can take pysical damage very well.

Are you sure? If you go slow-mo, you can see strips of hanging flesh I believe. IMO, the only readon Gamera even survived ws because of the energy that revived him. Gamera is not that good at taking physical damage. In HtH, I think that Gamera might win. But the Spirit Ball might do alot of damge, since there are no children to help him. I can't really guess how much damage a Plasma Ball would do though. We only see him take Godzilla's beam, which, fanboys or no, is very strong.

Super Angillas · #18 August 24th, 2004, 07:36 PM

Considering most things that are at ground zero of a nucular or equivelent explosion are vaporized, yeah I definetly thind Gamera came out good. He probably did absorb some of the energy, but I'm fairly sure that it was a very miscule amount.

The Great MM · #19 August 24th, 2004, 08:18 PM

Am I the only one who remembers in EVERY fight Heisei Gamera was in, he started in the sky.

Now, the way I see it, these two will do a dog fight in the air, and neither can hurt the other, Ghidorah's bolts won't phase Gamera because of his shell and Gamera's fire balls won't effect Ghidorah because the spirt ball acts as a shield.

The two land, and GMK KG uses the ball. The ball moves rather slowly through the air, giving Gamera plenty of time to take off. Once the spirit ball is gone, Gamera can just pound Ghidorah with fire balls.

Gamera wins.

Gorjirus · #20 August 25th, 2004, 08:40 AM

Absorbe that energy?! It looked like he was dead (I think he was dead)! There is a huge hole in his chest. Most likely, as I said, it was the children's mana energy or whatever that yellow stuff was that revived him.

Oh, and if you haven't noticed, Gamera isn't much for actually moving to dodge. If I remeber correctly, he only bends over to dodge a Gyaos beam, and in G2, he walks right at Legion, who is blasting him with those EM Beams, which are taking chunks out of him. He didn't ty to dodge those. Most likely, he will just stand there and try to take it/hold/block, not actually fly away to dodge. He only used his jets once to dodge, and that was when he was underneath Legion, and even then he actually didn't fly away, he just shot across the ground and stood up.

kent · #21 August 25th, 2004, 02:47 PM

Heisei Gamera is practically immortal. He took heavy damage from all three opponents and survived. GMK Ghidorah, even powered up, still could not take down Gamera. In fact, he has nothing that could take down Gamera. Plus it always seems like Gamera has something knew up his sleeve. But he won't need anything new because GMK Ghidorah is not as powerful as his other opponents.
If Gamera gets into any real trouble (which I doubt) he can always use his Mana blast. I really don't see GMK Ghidorah even putting a scratch on Gamera.

ghidorahsaurus · #22 August 25th, 2004, 03:00 PM

Agreeing with a few previous statements, I think Gamera takes this. In agreement with PyrasTerran that, although GMK Godzilla has an extremely tough hide, if he lived through the spirit ball, Gamera probably could too. Gamera would indeed take in a butt-load of damage. But, anguirus55 pointed out the possible kicker - Gamera can use the resulting huge explosion (fire and heat) to make repairs, and finish off the three-headed fiend. It will be no easy task, but once the spirit ball is gone, GMK Ghidorah does not seem to possess anything to put Gamera's life in danger. Who thinks this Ghidorah has the possibility of losing a head due to a well-placed fireball or elbow-blade thrust? [looking for a show of hands]

Gorjirus · #23 August 25th, 2004, 03:18 PM

Is it possible that the Mana beam could be absorbed by King Ghidorah, or at least blocked by the Spirit Ball?

And isn't it possible for Ghidorah to bite down on Gamera's arms, thus preventing the elbow blade? And if Ghidorah can get a bite down on Gamera's throat and pushes up, would Gamera even be able to get a Plasma Ball to hit Ghidorah (besides possibly the wings)?

ghidorahsaurus · #24 August 25th, 2004, 03:29 PM

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Is it possible that the Mana beam could be absorbed by King Ghidorah, or at least blocked by the Spirit Ball?

And isn't it possible for Ghidorah to bite down on Gamera's arms, thus preventing the elbow blade? And if Ghidorah can get a bite down on Gamera's throat and pushes up, would Gamera even be able to get a Plasma Ball to hit Ghidorah (besides possibly the wings)?

This seems possible. Imagine if Ghidorah held on TOO long, allowing Gamera to power up the mana beam at point blank range!

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ghidorahsaurus · #25 August 25th, 2004, 03:35 PM

Oops, did not mean to ignore the mana beam question. It certainly seems plausible Ghidorah's spirit ball shield could block the mana beam. However, seeing as Ghidorah did not absorb any of GMK Godzilla's attacks, it seems unlikely he could absorb Gamera's. I am open to other opinions on it though.