Oh god no, punk music in GFW

[Varan101]

What the heck is going on, some punk band is doing the music for Final Wars. That is extremely lame and makes me not want to ever see this movie. The musical scores were always a big part of these movies for me.

[Figment]

The article said only some of the music. I don't think Kitamura is stupid enough to not include orchestral music in the film.

[Bruticus]

I wanted Battlelore or Nightwish to do the music, dammit! Not this Sum 41 crap they're talking about (see the MZ boards for info)! With any luck, their rancid horseshit they call "music" will only be played over the credits, since everybody leaves right then anyway.

*sigh*...anyway, this isn't exactly the best way to commemorate Godzilla's 50th anniversary, especially when they could have gotten a real orchestra to do the music or, at the very least, reused the older scores. Hell, if they were going to use Sum 41, they may as well have picked a symphonic metal band (Nightwish, Rhapsody, Battlelore, Symphony X, etc) to keep both the "long live orchestral music" crowd and the "long live metal music" crowd happy.

But now they throw Sum 41 on board? Sounds to me like Toho really wants money, by appealing now to idiotic teenagers who couldn't tell you what real music is. I do hope, for Godzilla's sake, that if Sum 41 is on board, that their music is ONLY played over the ending credits.

Watch this, as I tell my classmates about this and they go wakka-wakka over it...

[godofPH]

Cool! Putting some american culture in da movie will be good! I never liked all that orchestra enyway. They should save the orchestra for the final fight. But use good american punk music for intense not-final fights.

[Enshohma]

If its instrumental punk music, then it could work quite well with the visuals. And Besides, not all of the sound track will be such, just some. If there's singing however, then I think we'll have good basis to cringe.

[Shin lvl2 Goji]

Tell me they didn't just say this. Punk music in a Godzilla movie? Let alone the 50th anniversary? I really hope this is just a rumor. The orchestrated themes are what make a movie timeless instead of trapping it into the weekend-flick-that-noone-will-see-or-care-about-again-category. Not to mention it's just more tasteful. I can see how he would want to appeal to American audiences but this is not the way to go. Man and of all the music they could've chosen,they chose punk. I hate punk. With a passion might I add. A picture is worth a thousand words.

[EternalMothra]

Since the Shobojin are on the movie, they better not make Mothra's song have a punk style, that would be awful.....

[godofPH]

Why does evry1 hate punk? Is anyone american here? Me, I'd rather hear a Sum41 song wile Godzillas fightin a monster than orchastra BS. Now Orchestra would be fine for the Arctic fight, I hate orchestra. I can think of so many songs that can be played during a kaiju fight.

[Zigra]

I was afraid of this. When Tomiyama said that Kitamura would give us "a Godzilla movie for the Matrix generation", I figured we'd be in for something along the lines of punk/metal or techno-punk music for the soundtrack. You know a movie or TV franchise has sold-out when they begin adding punk metal, techno-punk, or even rap/hip hop music to their soundtracks.

GodofPH: What do we have against punk music? I don't know. Perhaps it's how most of these bands spend more time screaming or making random screaching guitar noises rather than doing any actual singing or having any true melodic or musical elements to their "songs". Just a thought.

[ALLOSAURZ]

Eh I'm really not a fan of Sum 41 (allthough punk rocks) but this isn't enough to ruin the movie for me. Besides it could draw in more audiences and I would rather have more people attend a Godzilla movie at the sacrifice of 1 or 2 songs then very few people attend a flick with a masterful soundtrack. Oh well kudos to Sum 41 I at least think it's cool that such a popular band is involved with GFW.

[ALLOSAURZ]

Originally Posted by Zigra

I was afraid of this. When Tomiyama said that Kitamura would give us "a Godzilla movie for the Matrix generation", I figured we'd be in for something along the lines of punk/metal or techno-punk music for the soundtrack. You know a movie or TV franchise has sold-out when they begin adding punk metal, techno-punk, or even rap/hip hop music to their soundtracks.

GodofPH: What do we have against punk music? I don't know. Perhaps it's how most of these bands spend more time screaming or making random screaching guitar noises rather than doing any actual singing or having any true melodic or musical elements to their "songs". Just a thought.

Then you don't know Jack about punk. LIke any musical Genre there are legends and then there is crap. Sex pistols Ramones, Black Flag,=legend, Blink 182 = crap. And whats with this if you use Rock, Punk, Techno, rap then the movie producers have automatically sold out? Ever think the director might like this type of music and feels it fits the scenes? What if the Sum 41 songs beautifully fit the scene but none of Ifukube's scores match up? Have faith in the director people...

[godofPH]

Yes, I like Punk Music. I think its about time ol' toho got with the program. And if Tomiyama syas this'll be a "Godzilla movie for the Matrix Generation" Their would be no suits, all the monsters would be CGI and there would be no orchestra. Me, I'd like to see goji in CGI. Toho shoulda ditched the suits a long time ago.

You got to be freakin' kidding me. Sum 41 is one of the worse bands to emerge in the past 5 years under the guise of 'punk'. Though not much of a punk rock fan myself, I still very much enjoy The Ramones, The Misfits, and The Clash... This is terrible news, quite frankly. If there had to be any band in the world to do music fit for a Godzilla movie, atleast one of such epic scale, you must come to call on the most epic band of all time. Oh yes, I speak of the force that is Iron Maiden. Not Sum 41.

[The Great MM]

I gotta agree with GodofPH, its about time Toho puts something else in a Goji film. I have to say, I VARY much like this idea...

*imagines Godzilla fighting with Rob Zombie playing in back ground*

[PyrasTerran]

I believe alot of you are putting this all way out of proportions. So they have a punk band orchestrating. They had Marylin Manson composing for Resident Evil, did that make the score suck?

Just because it's a punk band doesn't mean we're gonna be hearing voices and lyrics, they may simply be doing music for it, like in FLCL.

[RadoGoji]

I for one think that punk music (and bands like Sum 41 and Blink 182) is OK, but I wouldn't want it in a Godzilla movie. They kind of did this with Returner by putting Lenny Kravitz over the credits (not during the movie, though), and thus, the credits were my least favorite part of the movie. I say keep the punk if you want, but keep it out of GFW.

[Kaiju Fan]

Originally Posted by ALLOSAURZ

Then you don't know Jack about punk. LIke any musical Genre there are legends and then there is crap. Sex pistols Ramones, Black Flag,=legend, Blink 182 = crap

Very true. Real punk would be bands like the Ramones, The Clash, The Misfits, Cheap Trick, Pennywise, Dead Kennedys etc., not MTV "punk" like Blink 182, Sum 41, or the incredibly crappy Good Charlotte . It's just like having a real metal band like the incredible Blind Guardian vs. a "metal band" like Korn and Slipknot and all those other lame bands. OT, I don't like this news at all, hopefully it will just be one song or two and they won't be played during the movie.

[PyrasTerran]

Not songs! *music*! The article says as such! They're most likely gonna be writing some fast paced guitar solo scores for when Godzilla gets his kick-*** groove on on villians like Kumonga or Kamakuras..

[Varan101]

I dont like punk music, therefore I don't want it on a Godzilla movie. That is NOT what Godzilla movies are about, plain and simple. There should be no lyrics.. I hate most of today's popular music and would much rather have an orchestral score.

[PyrasTerran]

I dont like punk music, therefore I don't want it on a Godzilla movie. That is NOT what Godzilla movies are about,

ô_ô;;

You people are acting like they're changing the whole farking premise of the movie just because a punk band is going to be writing *SOME* of the musical scores... bands and artists make different music when it comes to composing, Marylin Manson proved that, yet you're all acting like it's the bloody end of the world and you haven't even HEARD the music they're writing for the film!

[cls]

I've heard Sum 41's music and its just awful crap and highly generic stuff the mindless MTV generation listens too. I doubt they can do anything good for GFW. Using random stock music from Heisei and Showa films would have been a much better choice, no new score music for GFW but at least an awful pop band won't be involved.

[PyrasTerran]

You're not listening. No one's listening. Forget it. -_- *sigh*

[HolyGoji777]

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im completely friggin against this. ok this stuff you call punk is not really punk. sex pistols were real punk. the offspring are punk. these guys sum 41 and simple plan and good charlotte and the like are as manufactured as britney spears is...seriously...

all these "great" punk bands take the same three power chords and just rearrange them. i could teach weezer's "dope nose" to someone in thirty seconds. the really sad part is im NOT exaggerating. 30 seconds and you could play that song.

monster master mentioned imagining godzilla fighting to rob zombie...rob zombie is not punk. hes heavy metal. heavy metal might ACTUALLY make sense in a godzilla movie...especially bands that play well with an orchestra. i could see some korn in the background...maybe some disturbed. down with the sickness would be awesome fight music.

someone else mentioned marilyn manson sounds so much different while doing soundtracks. ok point taken. BUT again marilyn manson is far from punk. and not only that his stuff on resident evil ROCKED. it was creepy and fit the vibe perfectly. as much as i hate manson hes incredibly talented...he just uses it in my view the wrong way. but he does show glimpses of pure genius such as the song "coma white". even though i disagree with almost everything the man says he does have talent....

so where am i going with all of this? do i despise all punk music?

well to answer the last question first no i do not hate all punk music.

my point is i dont believe punk music belongs OR would even come close to sounding good in a godzilla movie. it wouldnt fit the mood gfw looks to set.

by the way i hear you loud and clear pyras. if we heard a sum 41 song in a cafe one of the characters happened to walk into...i wouldnt really care. but if its played during a monster fight yeah that i would have a problem with. i dont care if i havent heard it its punk i can make an educated guess at what it sounds like.

i think they should stick with the orchestra...its worked for 50 years now. some people dont have any appreciation for that kind of music...well it takes real talent. a good orchestral piece takes an amazing amount of work. i suggest to anyone that may be turned of by this music to reconsider.

end rant.

DISCLAIMER: this post was in no way, shape or form meant to offend any fans of the bands i mentioned and is purely the opinion of ReaperGoji777. The purpose of the post is to inform and perhaps open up some eyes. If you disagree please do not take offense but i ask you consider my points.

[Shin lvl2 Goji]

The one doctor from Godzilla Raids Again said it best: "This is bad.....this is bad." I sure don't want to see something as classic as Godzilla go down the tube with the mindless druggy MTV garbage that's everywhere now.It's possible that maybe in a scene somewhere on someone's radio they play it,that's fine just don't turn Godzilla into the same mindless fad stuff that's in every other genre.

[Enshohma]

Well, either by pure circumstance or an act of God or one of the other countless supreme beings in this overwhelming existence, MTV 2 had an episode of "Making the Video" with Sum 41 doing "All to Blame" and thus I was able to form an actually opinion on the band and their music.

Before I go on, let me make it clear that I enjoy music in general and to such extremes that I've enjoyed the likes of Marlyn Manson, Garbage, The Who, Dengue Fever, Gilbert and Sullivan, the Ramones, the Aquabats and Michiru Oshima, ALL equally through pure enjoyment and for their respective merits. And although I wish I owned as many punk albums as my brother do, I'm more then happy with the ones I do have, such as the Ramones and Green Day, but even more so with the various Punk-A-Rama compilations. The latter as with most compilations give a far better idea of a genre's high points and low points then any one band could do alone.

The thing I enjoy most about Punk is it *** kicking energy, but the constant problem with it as well is that along with the great instrumental action, you do get weak vocals. Not all the time though, but it accrues at a healthy rate regardless. After seeing the Sum 41 episodes, I more confident in my opinion then before; instrumentally, Sum 41 is very entertaining and the high energy of their guitars would match fast pasted outrageous monster battles well. Even more so if their music is used intelligently along side the main score, regardless if it is orchestral or not. And vice versa with the orchestral or otherwise to Sum 41's instrumentals.

Lyrically and vocally however, Sum 41 is average at beat, bland and boring at worse. Their not the worse punk band in all of existence, but they're certainly not the most amazing-we-should-go-out-and-totally-defecate-on-Mozart's-classical-works punk band I've ever heard either. And secondly, I enjoy suits and puppets as well as CGI, but only when both are done right or even better together.